Tank "nerfs"

[Chicks]

Yes drake listen players ... here u listen only cryers...
Dont change nothing... its to erly to jude

School, you should not have dropped from it.

And tanks = HVY armor drake? LoL. Shield bring just as much defense as hvy armor, depending on your class. Pure tanks = HP+Shield+HVY armor + hp regen (up to some extend).

[Garn.]

first of all, what about putting back banish AS IT SUPPOSED TO BE?

[BRANDEN]

i dunno banish undead seems good as it is now, chance is around 30% or something on white mobs and i think its going up each new lvl so seems good.

[Garn.]

i dunno banish undead seems good as it is now, chance is around 30% or something on white mobs and i think its going up each new lvl so seems good.

it's much less than 30%

[Chicks]

it's much less than 30%

this is an issue about some tanks, not all tanks. To me, banish is a secondary issue, as it's not universal.

[Garn.]

this is an issue about some tanks, not all tanks. To me, banish is a secondary issue, as it's not universal.

but still, it was fine before, and drake nerfed even the only pve skill SK has.

[Kaafrea]

Garn stop cry, its same chance like for Palladins and ee bp.

[Garn.]

Garn stop cry, its same chance like for Palladins and ee bp.

but since Track himself proves that drake is wrong, should i give up? hell no.

a quote from official forum

I've had it land for quite long periods better than 50% and it practically extinguishes mobs when it does.
Most tanks aren't exactly high-output DPS machines so it can be a great feeling to watch a level 65 mob go to zero hp (which your party's buffer can kill for a laugh)."

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=194467

[=drake=]

but since Track himself proves that drake is wrong, should i give up? hell no.

a quote from official forum

I've had it land for quite long periods better than 50% and it practically extinguishes mobs when it does.
Most tanks aren't exactly high-output DPS machines so it can be a great feeling to watch a level 65 mob go to zero hp (which your party's buffer can kill for a laugh)."

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=194467

Level 65... 

And is true... The skill without enchanting goes up to lv74, this means pretty much at lv65 you have the following conditions as TRUE:
a) you are lv65
b) the skill is lv65 (tbh i think is magic level 64 or 67, cant check now)
c) the monster is lv65

This means you really get your lethals (as everyone stated too against white mobs).
This changes once you pass lv74 as white color of mobs is related to your level but the skill remains stucked at magic level 74 if not enchanted.

[Garn.]

Level 65... 

And is true... The skill without enchanting goes up to lv74, this means pretty much at lv65 you have the following conditions as TRUE:
a) you are lv65
b) the skill is lv65 (tbh i think is magic level 64 or 67, cant check now)
c) the monster is lv65

This means you really get your lethals (as everyone stated too against white mobs).
This changes once you pass lv74 as white color of mobs is related to your level but the skill remains stucked at magic level 74 if not enchanted.

drake, ma mi prendi per il culo?
lvl 65, mob lvl 65, skill lvl 64 o 66, E su sto server non e' 50%.
sk lvl 77, mob 74, skill 74. prima della tua grande idea di "fixare" banish solo perchè non era "fair" per gli healer, funzionava perfettamente (intorno al 50% chance)
ora NEMMENO 30%. e tu dici che funziona così sull'official IL. cazzate. pure il tuo gm ti posta dei link dal forum official dove la gente conferma quello che dico io, e ti OSTINI a voler aver ragione........
e questa è solo una delle tue grandi idee (sbagliate e confermate pure da Track.) di ritoccare i tank in modo da renderli ancora più inutili.

è ovvio che sui mob 75+ le chance sono meno di 50% se non enchanti la skill, ma se faccio un lethal ogni 10 skill sui mob 74 o meno vuol dire che la skill non funziona COME SULL'OFFICIAL

[=drake=]

drake, ma mi prendi per il culo?
lvl 65, mob lvl 65, skill lvl 64 o 66, E su sto server non e' 50%.
sk lvl 77, mob 74, skill 74. prima della tua grande idea di "fixare" banish solo perchè non era "fair" per gli healer, funzionava perfettamente (intorno al 50% chance)
ora NEMMENO 30%. e tu dici che funziona così sull'official IL. cazzate. pure il tuo gm ti posta dei link dal forum official dove la gente conferma quello che dico io, e ti OSTINI a voler aver ragione........
e questa è solo una delle tue grandi idee (sbagliate e confermate pure da Track.) di ritoccare i tank in modo da renderli ancora più inutili.

è ovvio che sui mob 75+ le chance sono meno di 50% se non enchanti la skill, ma se faccio un lethal ogni 10 skill sui mob 74 o meno vuol dire che la skill non funziona COME SULL'OFFICIAL

Mah, la riguardo per l'ennesima volta ma dubito.
Ma un +1 hai provato a metterglielo?

[Garn.]

Mah, la riguardo per l'ennesima volta ma dubito.
Ma un +1 hai provato a metterglielo?

a parte che ho fallito da +0 a +1, ma l'enchant della skill serve solo se vuoi fare banish ai mob dal 75 in poi.
ti riporto qui le volte che ho usato la skill lvl 10(74) su mobs 74:

1/4, 1/1, 1/6, 1/4, 1/2, 1/5, 1/5, 1/3, 1/11, 1/17, 1/6, 1/12 (media 1/6,333)
siamo ben lontani dal 50% che dovrebbe essere...