Tank "nerfs"

[Clonage]

Didn't really read the whole topic but about deflect arrow, u could make it toggle that has like 5-10 cooldown upon pressing it

The toggle ideia is good. But the agro feels really broken. In no server when you agro a mob and root it, the mob still hits the closes target. Either it's the mob AI thats broken or the agro. As i said yesterday when i get home i will post a video from L2off showing how agro works in PvP.

[Garn.]

Against an archer the choice of UD itself aint really the best as, by CLEAN tank vs CLEAN archer he would still have higher range than you and he would just stand outside our your danger area and shot you down (slowly) from his 1500 range.

excuse me?

[Chicks]

LoL. UD mitigate the damage well enough to allow a tank to regen, even passively with pots. It also buy time to let (exemple) TOL or vengance to come back. The point of UD being a good move or not seems like an excuse to me. If the archer run out of your range, you still lay down 2-3 arrows, enough to compensate his damage while on UD. It's a decision you make based on the situation in the fight. Close to die and TOL is on it's way? better UD and come back full hp.

Only deflect arrow = perfect? Did you miss the part where the tank switched to bow weapon? The landing rate of entangle/roots on a dude with boss jewels is horrible, with the spell boosted or not (even if you had empower + a wep + empower++ you'd still get a fairly low landing rate). And the only time a tank can catch up with an archer is when the archer hit back. That little downtime in running is our chance of landing a root/stun.. Switching to a bow remove that advantage and while it may be a good idea, with reflect arrow it turns sour. So he'll just kite you to oblivion... Anyway got to go to work, but your point is flawed. Did you ever play tank classes drake?

[Blizzer]

Admin explaining basics of pvp lol 
Deflect arrow as toogle (10 sec cooldown) would be much better than now.

[Clonage]

As you can see in this video http://youtu.be/eQ1iLQrV8GU?t=23m47s Tanks with agression can force target and also force attack on the Tank. In Tarantula this is not possible, atleast from all the tests i've done with a clan mate, all first agros will only force target and never force attack. We even tested pressing down "F1"(on another target) while getting agro'ed and still doesnt force attack on tank.

[Zeka]

OGUS CAKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NunoPitbull]

As you can see in this video http://youtu.be/eQ1iLQrV8GU?t=23m47s Tanks with agression can force target and also force attack on the Tank. In Tarantula this is not possible, atleast from all the tests i've done with a clan mate, all first agros will only force target and never force attack. We even tested pressing down "F1"(on another target) while getting agro'ed and still doesnt force attack on tank.

Wanna see how GMs will do this. Will be TU story all over again, they only care about what they have, and don't beleive what even videos show from Interlude in official. So stupid...
And your right, agression is wrong in the part that it doesn't force attacks. I've tested it also myself with a clannie

[Chicks]

As you can see in this video http://youtu.be/eQ1iLQrV8GU?t=23m47s Tanks with agression can force target and also force attack on the Tank. In Tarantula this is not possible, atleast from all the tests i've done with a clan mate, all first agros will only force target and never force attack. We even tested pressing down "F1"(on another target) while getting agro'ed and still doesnt force attack on tank.

Nice, but it never worked like that in dragon (only briefly and they nerfed it afterward if I recall, but it's been so long that I may very well be wrong on that). Not that it shouldn't. Quite happy that you're right, tbh

[Feariel]

Pure tanks are not nerfed.
DPS classes that subclass to a tank to go in godmode are nerfed.

and what about the skill = "banish undead" ?  landing rate of this skill is like 5times per 1 buffs (20min) which looks like 10% = this skill is totaly USELESS. Means = I can't exp alone.
You will say, I have to play in party, but nobody wants me in party (leaching exp, doing no dmg). I can't even agro mobs while we want to train in cata, coz when Destro hits 3-4times, my agro is useles (destro doesn't need tatoo to be better then me to over-agro tank, he just need full-buff).
The only think which works on tank is Shackle, that is all I can do - root mobs.

Garn (but also everyone in the topic), out of curiosity, what would be your solutions? (beside remove all "nerfs" that is not a solution at all and we would end up again with the OP classes WELL KNOWN to everyone who played DNET IL)

I would like to have constructive comments instead of just complains.

Make Tanks playable on PVE and don't destroy the point of the char = tanking
- rise the landing rate of banish undead skill (it is pure PVE skill)
- do something with the agression on RBs > 3x Destro in party = You will never ever reagro RB (or at cost of all mana) but make tanking impossilbe to other chars... even prophet can tank RB, while runnig around his party (of archers for example) and i'm not talking about archers or destros  who are tanking most of the time. almost noone is using tank for RBs, means TANK=dead char - no reason to play it...

[Chicks]

and what about the skill = "banish undead" ?  landing rate of this skill is like 5times per 1 buffs (20min) which looks like 10% = this skill is totaly USELESS. Means = I can't exp alone.
You will say, I have to play in party, but nobody wants me in party (leaching exp, doing no dmg). I can't even agro mobs while we want to train in cata, coz when Destro hits 3-4times, my agro is useles (destro doesn't need tatoo to be better then me to over-agro tank, he just need full-buff).
The only think which works on tank is Shackle, that is all I can do - root mobs. Make Tanks playable on PVE and don't destroy the point of the char = tanking
- rise the landing rate of banish undead skill (it is pure PVE skill)
- do something with the agression on RBs > 3x Destro in party = You will never ever reagro RB (or at cost of all mana) but make tanking impossilbe to other chars... even prophet can tank RB, while runnig around his party (of archers for example) and i'm not talking about archers or destros  who are tanking most of the time. almost noone is using tank for RBs, means TANK=dead char - no reason to play it...

Wasn't banish fixed? Anyway I play TK so I could hardly tell how aweful that landing rate must be....

[Garn.]

Wasn't banish fixed? Anyway I play TK so I could hardly tell how aweful that landing rate must be....

fixed? you mean nerfed maybe....it's totally useless now. like someone said, it's a pure pve skill which doesnt work for pve at the moment.

[Peorexo]

fixed? you mean nerfed maybe....it's totally useless now. like someone said, it's a pure pve skill which doesnt work for pve at the moment.

same were telling all bp/ee.