by trying to force us to vote just to get rid of that annoying shit, you just guarenteed I will never again vote for DN
is the only way they can make us vote since they like there
Full Hellbound OFF,x5 x10 x15 x30 x200 rates, over 7000 players! 99% uptime. Custom potions,stackable sub system. Never wiped over 5 years.
voting is not something you should try to MAKE someone do
if you want people to vote for you, give them something worth voting for
annoying them is just a way to convince them to vote for someone else
which I'm considering doing every day untill that crap is gone
1 click from 1 IP in day. 5 clicks = coin (automatically add to charname u write before click). Buy our votes! Like we buy your pixels!
Guarantee 2-3 weeks and Dragon-network in 1-st place. And this is be helpfull to new players in servers. Rich players already have a lot of coins, they don't vote every day, new players recieve additional chance to get good equip, and stay on server. Revival of game process...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:24:50 AM
by trying to force us to vote just to get rid of that annoying shit, you just guarenteed I will never again vote for DN
i have to disagree, this vote is necessary for servers so. even if it's annoying.. vote !
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:24:50 AM
by trying to force us to vote just to get rid of that annoying shit, you just guarenteed I will never again vote for DN
Tbh chillywilly i didn't except so unmature comment from a really nice and mature woman, since you know when we put the vote button on forum and in loader (just aside of all) no1 voted and we have been on position over 50+ which is something that we don't deserve, cause believe it or not our HB client is one of best clients you can find atm, all rest are crap as well as "gracia final! which is lol!!!!", so this is not force or anything this is just a reminder to vote 1x per day which is tbh not hard at all if you are playing on this server and willing to support somehow, posts like this wont help us go any further . About a reason i think we gave you the reason to vote , we are working to make DN a better place updates/fixes and everything but it is a slow process we just need time and everything will fit on right place , but words of support five us hope and more positive energy to do it even more faster , so please try to understand other side then flamers side and you will see we are not that bad. Thanks for reading and hope for understanding.
Quote from: -JM- on June 02, 2009, 05:16:22 AM
is the only way they can make us vote since they like there
Full Hellbound OFF,x5 x10 x15 x30 x200 rates, over 7000 players! 99% uptime. Custom potions,stackable sub system. Never wiped over 5 years.
Yes it is Hellbound OFF (we need tweak up some shit but major things does work as well as security issues), and yes whole DNet have over 7k players . If you was just pointing with big letters then my mistake , ignore me. Cheers
You should make the vote banner follow the cursor instead. Now that would be annoying :P
Anyway, since everyone here is lazy as hell i think it's necessary to do something like this. Hope it helps and brings us more players.
I agree with the dorf.... On nm they got gm that can make event and who make it worth theire bread.... on DN what we got? god dam idiots who cant difference spam and theyre own opinion of something... if they disagree? topic moved to spam (thats a modo job, but problem is that this shit reflect on game as well...) if they get pwnd ingame? BAN! Event? its only event for European players... wich is retarded ... let evryone play... juste make it 3-4 hours later if they want to play that bad let them play at midnigth!
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 12:27:16 PM
Yes it is Hellbound OFF (we need tweak up some shit but major things does work as well as security issues), and yes whole DNet have over 7k players . If you was just pointing with big letters then my mistake , ignore me. Cheers
track, we stilll have the 10x server?
Locking my topic, removing post, how to solve this annoiyng "vote" just shows administration knows, that ppl don't vote not because they are lazy. Some other posts show the reasons.
But always - trying to MAKE someone do something leads to opposite result
For me it's not annoying any more, the rest will post their opinions and you can't delete all of them.
Why would Dragon players vote for Dragonnetwork?
Seriously?
Of course we know that there are on going bug fixes. but have we been told so? No.
We didnt get any information. All the informations are not official, its just rumours.
Furthermore,
I accepted that Drake himself changed the rules, to encourage now even more L2walker on dragon. (Feel free to check the weak rules on Dragon yourself Trackzero)
We on Dragon tolerate weak rules, we tolerate more l2walker users and violations of the rules.
Most tolerate even that we are not Hellbound yet(which youself say, is the best out there and yet Dragon isnt running on hellbound).
And Administration wants sympathy now?
This nuisance is forced upon us. We log the Forum hoping for any news.
We dont care if its Bad News or Good News, as long as its News.
Administration demand some sort of gratitude, while we have every reason to be upset.
I can understand those, who are offended by this new Ad.
Keeping in mind, that we tolerate on Dragon so much allready, i am not surprised if some players wouldnt vote.
In conclusion, the question stays: Why would dragon players vote?
No news, More L2walker, No Hellbound.
Nightmare players should vote though.
They are running on Hellbound, got an active gm giving news that he can provide, got strong rules too.
I'll voted today and i will vote more if 7s will be fixed :P
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Tbh chillywilly i didn't except so unmature comment from a really nice and mature woman, since you know when we put the vote button on forum and in loader (just aside of all) no1 voted and we have been on position over 50+ which is something that we don't deserve, cause believe it or not our HB client is one of best clients you can find atm, all rest are crap as well as "gracia final! which is lol!!!!", so this is not force or anything this is just a reminder to vote 1x per day which is tbh not hard at all if you are playing on this server and willing to support somehow, posts like this wont help us go any further . About a reason i think we gave you the reason to vote , we are working to make DN a better place updates/fixes and everything but it is a slow process we just need time and everything will fit on right place , but words of support five us hope and more positive energy to do it even more faster , so please try to understand other side then flamers side and you will see we are not that bad. Thanks for reading and hope for understanding.
yea we "should" vote but its gay to make people vote this way
Quote from: thechewu on June 02, 2009, 01:42:55 PM
yea we "should" vote but its gay to make people vote this way
If the other way of voteing was showing any result you think we would make this, you know none voted thats why we made this, we will see if ppl continue to vote we might make something else, but for now try understand us, thx.
stupid question
if i use 200x link
after, i can use also 100x?
or it check the ip?
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Tbh chillywilly i didn't except so unmature comment from a really nice and mature woman, since you know when we put the vote button on forum and in loader (just aside of all) no1 voted and we have been on position over 50+ which is something that we don't deserve, cause believe it or not our HB client is one of best clients you can find atm, all rest are crap as well as "gracia final! which is lol!!!!", so this is not force or anything this is just a reminder to vote 1x per day which is tbh not hard at all if you are playing on this server and willing to support somehow, posts like this wont help us go any further . About a reason i think we gave you the reason to vote , we are working to make DN a better place updates/fixes and everything but it is a slow process we just need time and everything will fit on right place , but words of support five us hope and more positive energy to do it even more faster , so please try to understand other side then flamers side and you will see we are not that bad. Thanks for reading and hope for understanding.
The immature attitude here is the one displayed by the one(s) who would rather extort votes than earn them. You want votes? Then clean up the walkers. Enforce rules. Set rules for GM behavior and hold them accountable.
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:24:50 AM
by trying to force us to vote just to get rid of that annoying shit, you just guarenteed I will never again vote for DN
lol, so rite +1
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 03:08:43 PM
The immature attitude here is the one displayed by the one(s) who would rather extort votes than earn them. You want votes? Then clean up the walkers. Enforce rules. Set rules for GM behavior and hold them accountable.
Hope you know on which server i am GM, and hope you know that i have 0 power on dragon x15?
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 03:13:12 PM
Hope you know on which server i am GM, and hope you know that i have 0 power on dragon x15?
Than kick our GMs at Dragon and become a GM there too.
(I still don't believe i wrote this and probably i'll regret that later in future)
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 03:13:12 PM
Hope you know on which server i am GM, and hope you know that i have 0 power on dragon x15?
then maybe the vote should be for individual servers, not DN as a whole. and not by messing up the forum, making pages take 3 times as long to finish loading
Quote from: Anemonia on June 02, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
Than kick our GMs at Dragon and become a GM there too.
(I still don't believe i wrote this and probably i'll regret that later in future)
Thx for good words between lines , but no i really dont have any interest of dragon x15 i am pretty fine with my community on NM and how it goes, for dragon gms x15 im not here to judge them since they are my colleagues , if you have any problems with them you know that only drake is responsible for them.
Anyway back to the topic, why you always connect DN with Dragon x15 (i know is atm biggest populated , but not so much more then nm :D) but there are other server under DN as well which dont have l2w that much as you say there is on x15 and many other things,so when i call people for vote i ask for vote for other servers not only the x15 one, thats why try to understand.
Quote from: Futile on June 02, 2009, 01:17:13 PM
Why would Dragon players vote for Dragonnetwork?
Seriously?
Of course we know that there are on going bug fixes. but have we been told so? No.
We didnt get any information. All the informations are not official, its just rumours.
Furthermore,
I accepted that Drake himself changed the rules, to encourage now even more L2walker on dragon. (Feel free to check the weak rules on Dragon yourself Trackzero)
We on Dragon tolerate weak rules, we tolerate more l2walker users and violations of the rules.
Most tolerate even that we are not Hellbound yet(which youself say, is the best out there and yet Dragon isnt running on hellbound).
And Administration wants sympathy now?
This nuisance is forced upon us. We log the Forum hoping for any news.
We dont care if its Bad News or Good News, as long as its News.
Administration demand some sort of gratitude, while we have every reason to be upset.
I can understand those, who are offended by this new Ad.
Keeping in mind, that we tolerate on Dragon so much allready, i am not surprised if some players wouldnt vote.
In conclusion, the question stays: Why would dragon players vote?
No news, More L2walker, No Hellbound.
Nightmare players should vote though.
They are running on Hellbound, got an active gm giving news that he can provide, got strong rules too.
Since Dragon server is a part of Dragon-Network and its a large part, i dont expect that there will be more votes this month.
Oki doks, i gave up of making something, do what u feel to do, enjoy yourself. cya
can be disabled :)
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 03:40:27 PM
Oki doks, i gave up of making something, do what u feel to do, enjoy yourself. cya
1 Line of News any news
each day . and you have my vote
each day.
Bunch of whiners lol
Quote from: Anemonia on June 02, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
(I still don't believe i wrote this and probably i'll regret that later in future)
u can always edit ur posts xddddd
Quote from: Furesy on June 02, 2009, 04:10:33 PM
Bunch of whiners lol
Fur, you strike me as a logical person, so thinking seriously, does it make sense to vote for someone who makes NO effort to EARN your vote? All they can think of is to stick something in forum to annoy you unless you vote...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:32:07 PM
Fur, you strike me as a logical person, so thinking seriously, does it make sense to vote for someone who makes NO effort to EARN your vote? All they can think of is to stick something in forum to annoy you unless you vote...
Maybe look at it the other way arround.
Why would they put any effort if people are even to lazy to press a button once a day to make a vote lol
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:32:07 PM
Fur, you strike me as a logical person, so thinking seriously, does it make sense to vote for someone who makes NO effort to EARN your vote? All they can think of is to stick something in forum to annoy you unless you vote...
I see your point of view..... BUUUT everytime something good actually does happen it doesn't make the slightest diffrence in the votes. Eventhough we have hellbound running on atleast 2 of the servers we were still dropping on the list.
Same as with IL "im not gonna vote untill we get some updates" and when we finally got the update ppl voted for like 3 days and then forgot.
For us that actually have been trying to vote every day, and has seen the server slip further down the list each and every day this is kinda nice. Hopefully our server will get some new players.
It's a win win situation so just vote. I think Drake would rather close the server if it's gets to few ppl then actually trying to do something about it.
So trying to pressure admins into doing the right thing by not voting will most likely just come bite you in the ass.
I can see your point too... I've been bitten in the ass before... lol
but Futile also has a good point. How long would it take to post one line of news a day?
How hard would it be to tell certain **cough** ppl that keeping their GM panel depends on NOT abusing it?
How hard would it be for someone to log in just once a week and say "Hi everybody, I'm still alive!"?
WE aren't the only lazy ones!
I'll make a deal... if Drake logs in and post's a hello here, I'll vote every day for a week... after that, I'll vote every day each week he says "hi" anywhere in the forum...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 05:00:04 PM
I can see your point too... I've been bitten in the ass before... lol
but Futile also has a good point. How long would it take to post one line of news a day?
How hard would it be to tell certain **cough** ppl that keeping their GM panel depends on NOT abusing it?
How hard would it be for someone to log in just once a week and say "Hi everybody, I'm still alive!"?
WE aren't the only lazy ones!
Actually i do inform ppl of NM about everything at least once in a 72h
No1 abuse my gm panel ever!
I am telling more then Hi everybody i am still alive ever day and much much more then that, so i am not a lazy one! So please vote for DN as it is for NM, and maybe is time to think of coming to NM finally?
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 05:03:21 PM
Actually i do inform ppl of NM about everything at least once in a 72h
No1 abuse my gm panel ever!
I am telling more then Hi everybody i am still alive ever day and much much more then that, so i am not a lazy one! So please vote for DN as it is for NM, and maybe is time to think of coming to NM finally?
Track, I know you try... much more than anyone else I've seen. But I won't just abandon 3+ years work, and I can't afford what you asked to bring it with me.
As for voting, if the vote was for just NM, sure, but it isn't, and the mess the others made is costing you...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
Track, I know you try... much more than anyone else I've seen. But I won't just abandon 3+ years work, and I can't afford what you asked to bring it with me.
As for voting, if the vote was for just NM, sure, but it isn't, and the mess the others made is costing you...
You're not even subbed yet xD Just get your lazy ass to NM and enjoy a non-corrupt environment with hellbound.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 02, 2009, 05:20:22 PM
You're not even subbed yet xD Just get your lazy ass to NM and enjoy a non-corrupt environment with hellbound.
no, none of my chars are subbed. only have one or two I might even WANT to sub. but I've spent countless hours scraping together enough adena to expand recipe books, warehouses, and inventories, to make or buy equipment, to spoil or buy recipes, to drop spoil and buy books, I can't just do it all over.
especially since every time I stick my nose out of town on NM, I get pk'd
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 05:03:21 PM
Actually i do inform ppl of NM about everything at least once in a 72h
No1 abuse my gm panel ever!
I am telling more then Hi everybody i am still alive ever day and much much more then that, so i am not a lazy one! So please vote for DN as it is for NM, and maybe is time to think of coming to NM finally?
and that is so difficult to do? even half of your work wuold be appreciated...
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
especially since every time I stick my nose out of town on NM, I get pk'd
Your lucky.... i have trouble finding ppl to flag on me.
remove the "x10" from list, that one was closed long ago...
and bring the wannabe hellbound to all servers, other way you have bullshit written there....
Quote from: Futile on June 02, 2009, 01:17:13 PM
Why would Dragon players vote for Dragonnetwork?
Seriously?
Of course we know that there are on going bug fixes. but have we been told so? No.
We didnt get any information. All the informations are not official, its just rumours.
+1 this is one of most worst things on this server's.... ok i mean dragon 15x...
on other servers u go to their main site and u see:
"NEWS:
fixed: xxxxx
fixed: yyyyyyy
now working: zzzzz
...."
i think its one of the most powerful things to let ppl come here
and dont tell me "then go to this servers!" becouse i cant imagine playing l2 not on DN... and thats why im too trying to put all this "important shit" to you heads
btw +1 vote (for NM) for u Track ;)
Quote from: kidicarus on June 02, 2009, 05:48:48 PM
Your lucky.... i have trouble finding ppl to flag on me.
your problem is, you want it... try being a strictly pve player, and they won't leave you alone!! lol
Quote from: freezoid1 on June 02, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
+1 this is one of most worst things on this server's.... ok i mean dragon 15x...
on other servers u go to their main site and u see:
"NEWS:
fixed: xxxxx
fixed: yyyyyyy
now working: zzzzz
...."
i think its one of the most powerful things to let ppl come here
and dont tell me "then go to this servers!" becouse i cant imagine playing l2 not on DN... and thats why im too trying to put all this "important shit" to you heads
btw +1 vote (for NM) for u Track ;)
ok, ONE vote (and only one) just for Track
Leave dragon and join NM, many people did that and most of them stayed at NM, so really what are you waiting for?
Now seriously i dont get how the hell can you just continue playing on dragon when there is so much corruption. Do you just ignore it that the gm there plays on the server, helps your enemies and bans his enemies for no specific reason? Zomg, freak the few years of playing, trade your gear or sell it for NM. Are you seriously hoping for better days on dragon? ::)
Honestly Track is one of best GM NM ever had, but...always have one but. Until 1 weeks i always vote - one time from work, one time from home - so 2 vote every one day . Now i stop - and let me tell you Track why. Cuz i feel disapointed. 2 weeks that topic was in first page on NM section: http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,189524.0.html - in general - im sure that you saw. But no answer from you. I understand - that is not donator function, but in start on HB this work, after this misterious was diasabled/bugged - i try to get your attention at least for answer - something like - i don't know;i don't care;dont ask me - but nothing. I feel disapointed cuz here have few assliker and when they start to cry to you for something stupid you always give them atention - when i ask you for something usefull - and nothing. Nvm - i respect Drake's and your good work, but my votes stoped for now - someday may be you will learn to give attention to us - normal players - not only to asslikers and donators only ( btw imo donators ofc deserve attention) and in this day i will start to vote again ( like alyws till now)
Good luck and best wishes in that hard work.
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
this is just a reminder to vote 1x per day
make it appear once per day not once per session as it is now
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 02, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
Leave dragon and join NM, many people did that and most of them stayed at NM, so really what are you waiting for?
Now seriously i dont get how the hell can you just continue playing on dragon when there is so much corruption. Do you just ignore it that the gm there plays on the server, helps your enemies and bans his enemies for no specific reason? Zomg, freak the few years of playing, trade your gear or sell it for NM. Are you seriously hoping for better days on dragon? ::)
if its to me i tell u now im on arena
A Dayly news line will do much better then this Ad.
Especially since most disabled the Ad by now.
Quote from: digunan on June 02, 2009, 06:11:34 PM
Honestly Track is one of best GM NM ever had, but...always have one but. Until 1 weeks i always vote - one time from work, one time from home - so 2 vote every one day . Now i stop - and let me tell you Track why. Cuz i feel disapointed. 2 weeks that topic was in first page on NM section: http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,189524.0.html - in general - im sure that you saw. But no answer from you. I understand - that is not donator function, but in start on HB this work, after this misterious was diasabled/bugged - i try to get your attention at least for answer - something like - i don't know;i don't care;dont ask me - but nothing. I feel disapointed cuz here have few assliker and when they start to cry to you for something stupid you always give them atention - when i ask you for something usefull - and nothing. Nvm - i respect Drake's and your good work, but my votes stoped for now - someday may be you will learn to give attention to us - normal players - not only to asslikers and donators only ( btw imo donators ofc deserve attention) and in this day i will start to vote again ( like alyws till now)
Good luck and best wishes in that hard work.
Dude do u know how much i have requests per day, really a LOT, i didint ignore your msg i just need to time to handle them all, anyway thx for votes and ill reply to you asap since i really dont need to ignore just need to find a solution to fix and then i reply you when i have something to reply with.
thx
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 06:19:06 PM
Dude do u know how much i have requests per day, really a LOT, i didint ignore your msg i just need to time to handle them all, anyway thx for votes and ill reply to you asap since i really dont need to ignore just need to find a solution to fix and then i reply you when i have something to reply with.
thx
Cant belived, but after this restart the are worked again ;D
You have my 2 votes every day again.
Thx.
p.s. hope they will work for more than 1 restart.
Save the drains!
I voted ... and its still there....
Quote from: Chicks on June 02, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
I voted ... and its still there....
it appeares every session.
I haven't seen that thing at all lol xd
Quote from: Dayman on June 02, 2009, 06:56:40 PM
it appeares every session.
I never delogged... does the server refesh sessions? or do our session go in a "sleep state" and refesh itself when we make an action?
if you wanna avoid this you have to change your forum theme from your profile setting.
ps: keep deleting i will post it again and again and gain ... :D
For what it's worth, I like the reminder to vote. The old tab just kinda sat there and I didn't notice it after a while. ( Yes I'm usually pretty tired when I log into the forum so I needed something to catch my attention better)
As far as NM is concerned, I have chars there too, but since they are lower, I have Chilly's problem. Unless I go out when nobody else Is around some S grade subbed char builds his points by Pk'n me. ( Yes it's part of the game but pretty lame when they just sit and hunt chars 20 lvls lower) Track, Your a fantastic GM and I go to NM for my news because you keep the community informed. I've never heard of any abuse and you take the time to start events when you can. (We, my family and I, love events. ) The things I don't care for in NM though are :
1) I see get alot more childish acts/insults for no reason there. I'm really no kid and I get to hear plenty of crap at work, I come here to relax and I just don't like to put up with that kind of stuff with the little time I get to play. ( I also play with my kids and some of the stuff I see is a little raw for them. (ie. I f**ked ur mom, etc)
2) I like the lower rate of dragon because I actually enjoy the lower grade leveling and the quests. I would really like it if DN started Shadow back for that very reason. Life is about the journey for me, not a destination. :)
Anyways, no insults intended here, just my thoughts.
Quote from: JTKnight on June 02, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
For what it's worth, I like the reminder to vote. The old tab just kinda sat there and I didn't notice it after a while. ( Yes I'm usually pretty tired when I log into the forum so I needed something to catch my attention better)
As far as NM is concerned, I have chars there too, but since they are lower, I have Chilly's problem. Unless I go out when nobody else Is around some S grade subbed char builds his points by Pk'n me. ( Yes it's part of the game but pretty lame when they just sit and hunt chars 20 lvls lower) Track, Your a fantastic GM and I go to NM for my news because you keep the community informed. I've never heard of any abuse and you take the time to start events when you can. (We, my family and I, love events. ) The things I don't care for in NM though are :
1) I see get alot more childish acts/insults for no reason there. I'm really no kid and I get to hear plenty of crap at work, I come here to relax and I just don't like to put up with that kind of stuff with the little time I get to play. ( I also play with my kids and some of the stuff I see is a little raw for them. (ie. I f**ked ur mom, etc)
2) I like the lower rate of dragon because I actually enjoy the lower grade leveling and the quests. I would really like it if DN started Shadow back for that very reason. Life is about the journey for me, not a destination. :)
Anyways, no insults intended here, just my thoughts.
Well now when i have read your post i really want player like you on NM, but then again you are the one who decides.
However 1 thing i know for sure we have more family and mature players then other servers (i know 100% :D ) about pking and insults well thats something i cant prevent (sadly) ,and in other hand i cant agree with you that my NM comrades are bad community i rally like them and care for them (i know i spoiled them :D:D ) so imo NM ppl can really give you a hand you just need to meet them (and then ofc there are uniqe mofos, but they are small %) if u ever wanna bring ur family here let me know, im here to help. Have fun manx
Quote from: Chicks on June 02, 2009, 07:00:12 PM
I never delogged... does the server refesh sessions? or do our session go in a "sleep state" and refesh itself when we make an action?
i'm sure it does
"Stay Logged In Forever" doesn't change anything except time before cookie expires. The session expiration time is defined in admin CP; default is 2880 seconds.
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Well now when i have read your post i really want player like you on NM, but then again you are the one who decides.
However 1 thing i know for sure we have more family and mature players then other servers (i know 100% :D ) about pking and insults well thats something i cant prevent (sadly) ,and in other hand i cant agree with you that my NM comrades are bad community i rally like them and care for them (i know i spoiled them :D:D ) so imo NM ppl can really give you a hand you just need to meet them (and then ofc there are uniqe mofos, but they are small %) if u ever wanna bring ur family here let me know, im here to help. Have fun manx
We do play there from time to time, more now that I updated to HB and dragon is still on IL. And I know that the whole community is not like that, I've met nice players too, I just seem to have bad luck with the rude ones. ;D
Quote from: JTKnight on June 02, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
For what it's worth, I like the reminder to vote. The old tab just kinda sat there and I didn't notice it after a while. ( Yes I'm usually pretty tired when I log into the forum so I needed something to catch my attention better)
As far as NM is concerned, I have chars there too, but since they are lower, I have Chilly's problem. Unless I go out when nobody else Is around some S grade subbed char builds his points by Pk'n me. ( Yes it's part of the game but pretty lame when they just sit and hunt chars 20 lvls lower) Track, Your a fantastic GM and I go to NM for my news because you keep the community informed. I've never heard of any abuse and you take the time to start events when you can. (We, my family and I, love events. ) The things I don't care for in NM though are :
1) I see get alot more childish acts/insults for no reason there. I'm really no kid and I get to hear plenty of crap at work, I come here to relax and I just don't like to put up with that kind of stuff with the little time I get to play. ( I also play with my kids and some of the stuff I see is a little raw for them. (ie. I f**ked ur mom, etc)
2) I like the lower rate of dragon because I actually enjoy the lower grade leveling and the quests. I would really like it if DN started Shadow back for that very reason. Life is about the journey for me, not a destination. :)
Anyways, no insults intended here, just my thoughts.
Well we have this -_- feature now again xD So all your kids will see is "I -_-ed your mom" and that just looks like a tiny scrunched together asian man imo^^
And ppl rarely if ever PK for no reason... honestly. I don't know what spots you hang out in, but unless you got a wartag on your head you won't get hit at all. And all your spoiling/lvling/whatever it is you do, won't be spoiled by lots of L2W bots around you.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 02, 2009, 09:27:08 PM
Well we have this -_- feature now again xD So all your kids will see is "I -_-ed your mom" and that just looks like a tiny scrunched together asian man imo^^
And ppl rarely if ever PK for no reason... honestly. I don't know what spots you hang out in, but unless you got a wartag on your head you won't get hit at all. And all your spoiling/lvling/whatever it is you do, won't be spoiled by lots of L2W bots around you.
Kidicarus,
Thanks for the information about the -_-. I didn't know that. :) ( My kids are old enough to read but young enough that I don't want to have to "explain" what some things mean to them yet. ;)
As far as 'War tag" our chars are either unclanned or in a family clan, not high enough level for declaring war. Just yesterday some subbed mage chased me halfway across the map to pk me when I was just running from place to place on a quest. I don't pk and I don't insult people ( I don't like it so I don't do it) Like I said, there are nice people on the server(you and furesy are 2 that I've talked with before) I just seem to have bad luck when it comes to finding the rude ones.) The family and I will be there from time to time.
Quote from: JTKnight on June 02, 2009, 09:40:11 PM
Kidicarus,
Thanks for the information about the -_-. I didn't know that. :) ( My kids are old enough to read but young enough that I don't want to have to "explain" what some things mean to them yet. ;)
As far as 'War tag" our chars are either unclanned or in a family clan, not high enough level for declaring war. Just yesterday some subbed mage chased me halfway across the map to pk me when I was just running from place to place on a quest. I don't pk and I don't insult people ( I don't like it so I don't do it) Like I said, there are nice people on the server(you and furesy are 2 that I've talked with before) I just seem to have bad luck when it comes to finding the rude ones.) The family and I will be there from time to time.
Well when i looked at Dragon forum like 1 year ago or 6 months ago i think that there are lots more imature people saying stupid stuff arround the forum than on NM. Also ingame there isnt much flaming arround even on the sieges, mass pvps it ends up people saying zerg or just gf xD
I made lots of new chars and lvled em alone with 1 bot and i never get pked or even flaged by people. As Kidicarus said, people usually pk you if they know you as an enemy... And even that isnt often, for example i was killing mobs for few days in hellbound island and there were tons of enemys running arround me and i got pked only once cuz i pked the guy few times before that day xD
Track don't ged mad and keep the good work :)
remember that for every cryer on forum there are at least 10 ppl happy to play here
is like in real life :) u will always hear ppl sayng this is shit that is shit bla bla bla
it's rare to hear hey man u are doin a goo job
about your job, well the only thing i say in clan/ to friend is:
go check nm section if u wanna some news
do your maths :D
gl & have fun
Quote from: Dag on June 02, 2009, 11:40:56 PM
Track don't ged mad and keep the good work :)
remember that for every cryer on forum there are at least 10 bots ppl happy to play here
is like in real life :) u will always hear ppl sayng this is shit that is shit bla bla bla
it's rare to hear hey man u are doin a goo job
about your job, well the only thing i say in clan/ to friend is:
go check nm section if u wanna some news
do your maths :D
gl & have fun
:P
Quote from: JTKnight on June 02, 2009, 09:40:11 PM
Just yesterday some subbed mage chased me halfway across the map to pk me when I was just running from place to place on a quest.
Probably just windphoenix. Ignore him and he will eventually get bored.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 03, 2009, 03:00:23 AM
Probably just windphoenix. Ignore him and he will eventually get bored.
hahaha :D
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 02, 2009, 04:24:50 AM
by trying to force us to vote just to get rid of that annoying shit, you just guarenteed I will never again vote for DN
+1 .Exactly ,we should vote because we think DN deserves it, not this way, its like freaking spam....and i hate spam >.<
i will not vote, i already disabled that pop-up crap, why i dont vote?
what about freedom of speach ? every my freaking post/topic is removed or locked in matter of minuts, i cant write anything , AND NOW MY FORUM ACCOUNT IS BANNED ! so why to vote?
lets see about track's words NM is good , he work really hard, he deserve votes,
dude u are 25 % of DN community!]
75 % of servers are corrupted to the bone!!!!! u have no idea how much!!! go infity or Dn15x , get real, make separate option for voting, or leave with server from DN .
try folow me here
NM is green apple in basket surrounded with other apples full of worms! i am not flaming, im telling the fact's . as long dn/infi is way they are (best income to drake come from here and they are much more populated) me and most of my friends will never vote.
btw in post where u say u have 0 power on dn 15x? u joke me right ? lol! where did i put those messages .... how was it:
STOP POSTING IT OR I WILL PERSONALLY BAN AND DELETE ALL YOUR CHARS ON ALL SERVERS!
or u forgot about that :D ?
again not a flame only fact's, gz for 4 years up and running, gz for trying. but.... vote for this situation ?????
DRAKE WILL CHANGE THINGS ONLY IF HE RUN OUT OF DONATIONS AND MONEY!!! IF WE VOTE NOW IN THIS SITUATION! HE WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING! its a simple fact, and dont delete this post!
Quote from: Dayman on June 02, 2009, 09:12:20 PM
i'm sure it does
"Stay Logged In Forever" doesn't change anything except time before cookie expires. The session expiration time is defined in admin CP; default is 2880 seconds.
but it auto reconect you so thats why you get it back huh?
btw it was more a "fuk you you lie to us it doesnt disapear"... more talkshit then anything but if I can get more cookie's knowledge i'm always up to it
Quote from: Brevv on June 03, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
DRAKE WILL CHANGE THINGS ONLY IF HE RUN OUT OF DONATIONS AND MONEY!!! IF WE VOTE NOW IN THIS SITUATION! HE WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING! its a simple fact, and dont delete this post!
This is one out of two possible outcomes. Even more likely is that he would just close the server if he starts loosing money on it... The lazyness is strong in this one, i can sense it.
voting is not something you should try to MAKE someone do
if you want people to vote for you, give them something worth voting for
annoying them is just a way to convince them to vote for someone else
which I'm considering doing every day untill that crap is gone
Quote from: Kikolina on June 03, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
no time? what kind of bullshit is this? dont play a cool gm lol when u rather lock the topic and write how stupid every1 is ( lets say it takes 5 min ) than saying the real answer, lets take my example: "what happend with enchant/spoil rate?" (answer takes 10 sec?)
and still every topic i see u in, u are answering only to whiners that knows shit, when someone posts something using brains we never see ur respond :)
ps expect lock soon:D
Because we don't answer to wannabe-smartasses who pretend to know everything already but still end up asking dumb questions, which in return they might already know the answer of since in the end they remain smartasses?
Satisfied?
I don't mind that crap... in fact, I've seen a lot worse.. lol.
omg... vote for dn and don't act like a child,remenber that you have the possibility to play here for free and Dn is the best not l2j server so gms ask us only to help the community to grow up(if you wont vote later don't ask why new ppls don't come).So vote and don't broke morons
Quote from: alfy on June 03, 2009, 09:03:46 PM
omg... vote for dn and don't act like a child,remenber that you have the possibility to play here for free and Dn is the best not l2j server so gms ask us only to help the community to grow up(if you wont vote later don't ask why new ppls don't come).So vote and don't broke morons
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r186/Quazie28/shut_the_freak_up.jpg)
Fu ;D
mozilla+ no script and no problems here :)
Quote from: ToothFairy on June 03, 2009, 10:07:40 PM
mozilla+ no script and no problems here :)
mozilla 3 and never saw the pop up here
don't know if it has anything to do with it, but ever since they put that thing on, I keep getting "fatal error - out of memory" messages when I try to navigate the forum. it never happened even once before, and happens constantly ever since.
Quote from: ChillyWilly on June 04, 2009, 01:14:21 AM
don't know if it has anything to do with it, but ever since they put that thing on, I keep getting "fatal error - out of memory" messages when I try to navigate the forum. it never happened even once before, and happens constantly ever since.
it really dont have anything to do with vote thing, it i something that we are trying to fix atm (should be ok in few days)
Quote from: TrackZero on June 04, 2009, 01:19:33 AM
it really dont have anything to do with vote thing, it i something that we are trying to fix atm (should be ok in few days)
good, cause it's making me crazy! lol :)
Atleast it's helping 11th place.
The ones that aren't whiny bitches, would you please keep on voting!
Quote from: kidicarus on June 04, 2009, 01:58:26 AM
Atleast it's helping 11th place.
The ones that aren't whiny bitches, would you please keep on voting!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
bitches also have teeth......... woof
Quote from: TrackZero on June 02, 2009, 12:16:45 PM
Tbh chillywilly i didn't except so unmature comment from a really nice and mature woman, since you know when we put the vote button on forum and in loader (just aside of all) no1 voted and we have been on position over 50+ which is something that we don't deserve, cause believe it or not our HB client is one of best clients you can find atm, all rest are crap as well as "gracia final! which is lol!!!!", so this is not force or anything this is just a reminder to vote 1x per day which is tbh not hard at all if you are playing on this server and willing to support somehow, posts like this wont help us go any further . About a reason i think we gave you the reason to vote , we are working to make DN a better place updates/fixes and everything but it is a slow process we just need time and everything will fit on right place , but words of support five us hope and more positive energy to do it even more faster , so please try to understand other side then flamers side and you will see we are not that bad. Thanks for reading and hope for understanding.
It IS annoying LOL, i voted t'day to get rid of it xD
Prob is...ok we vote, DN hits the roof again, the network is up on top and??...A new player starts, he/she makes a char, lvls it after being pked 19374654 times, gets at 78 with crappy gear and realizes the stackable sub is a joke since it's almost impossible to get.
In the meantime the new player sees....lotsa bugs, overpriced consumables (pots, shots), lollipops, S grade sets he/she can't get otherwise but by donation (cause he/she wasn't here to benefit from exploits ^^), lotsa ppl using cheats, game masters playing as players (btw someone should tell Narog if he organizes events it's simply unfair to be part of them as player), using announcements to ask for clan wars lol, banning randomly, not doing their jobs. K so the new player decides to donate so she/he can play on DN....that takes weeks sometimes (if u re lucky), the staff is not responsive, in the meantime the new player keeps trying 2 get the "stackable" sub...eventually after a month he/she gets the game coins, gets subbed and realizes that it would cost about 500 euro to get decent gear...and so on, and so on....
Now why would u wanna put DN so high on that top ???? beats me...
PS @ track- u're a fair GM i understand, i was describing the most popular server on DN, dragon. I've played NM, it seems cleaner than dragon but w/o trading items from one server to another it's still hard to get a decent char :)
PPS
WIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Quote from: Kaylaar on June 04, 2009, 07:04:22 AM
he/she can't get otherwise but by donation
cause he/she wasn't here to benefit from exploits
he/she gets the game coins, gets subbed and realizes that it would cost about 500 euro to get decent gear...and so on, and so on....
why are u always saying he will be Hawkeye/Spellhowler? ^_^
lineage addict xD interesting combo LOL
Didn't we got kicked last time from the top list, since we " made" people voting from the loader, and that was illegal.
I guess "making" people vote like this is illegal also
Quote from: Kaylaar on June 04, 2009, 07:04:22 AM
It IS annoying LOL, i voted t'day to get rid of it xD
Prob is...ok we vote, DN hits the roof again, the network is up on top and??...A new player starts, he/she makes a char, lvls it after being pked 19374654 times, gets at 78 with crappy gear and realizes the stackable sub is a joke since it's almost impossible to get.
In the meantime the new player sees....lotsa bugs, overpriced consumables (pots, shots), lollipops, S grade sets he/she can't get otherwise but by donation (cause he/she wasn't here to benefit from exploits ^^), lotsa ppl using cheats, game masters playing as players (btw someone should tell Narog if he organizes events it's simply unfair to be part of them as player), using announcements to ask for clan wars lol, banning randomly, not doing their jobs. K so the new player decides to donate so she/he can play on DN....that takes weeks sometimes (if u re lucky), the staff is not responsive, in the meantime the new player keeps trying 2 get the "stackable" sub...eventually after a month he/she gets the game coins, gets subbed and realizes that it would cost about 500 euro to get decent gear...and so on, and so on....
Now why would u wanna put DN so high on that top ???? beats me...
PS @ track- u're a fair GM i understand, i was describing the most popular server on DN, dragon. I've played NM, it seems cleaner than dragon but w/o trading items from one server to another it's still hard to get a decent char :)
PPS
WIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Yeah.... that sounds pretty bad. But we could just warn them not to go to Dragon though.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 04, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Yeah.... that sounds pretty bad. But we could just warn them not to go to Dragon though.
I'm not "crying", if they wipe i lose all my subs and crap but what i said is the cruel reality xD We don't have new ppl on dragon for those reasons.
Quote from: Torek [IF] on June 04, 2009, 09:42:42 AM
lol dn is a "donator" server, make everything craftable and delete donny......then ppl will start vote for dn
donation isn't bad if drake's pills don't get away. Remember in c4 you could get things easier with donate, but you could craft them too. The problem are with these focking only donate shits, like dynasty(oh sorry, it's called now as dnet armor) and icarus...
Quote from: kidicarus on June 04, 2009, 01:02:20 PM
Yeah.... that sounds pretty bad. But we could just warn them not to go to Dragon though.
if they asked us to vote for NM,even if we play in an other server,yes ofc we would vote or at least i would vote personaly..NM deserves to be among the Top servers!!!
but they ask us to vote for Dragon-Network...and as a Network we suck!!! :-X
why?
cause
1)Dragon,the most crowded server in the network,is corrupted to the bone and Drake doesn't give a freak about it
2)Infinity,dunno exactly but i heard it's pretty much the same
3)they still publish Shadow like an open/healthy server when it's closed
and many other things that i'm a bit bored to write now...
and lets say we vote for the network...and?we end up to the things Kaylaar stated,which you can see them from day 1..if you start playing in Dragon/Infinity and some time later if you start playing in NM,cause even there you have problems with spoil/drops rates
p.s. Track i didn't quite get why you deleted your own topic in NM section,ok you are Admin/GM/whatever..,so you can do whatever you want,but i wasn't flaming you personaly nor i was spamming!!
We had a discussion..I said my opinion,you said yours..unless you want everyone to agree with what you say no matter what :-X
Quote from: Itsme9x on June 04, 2009, 09:16:30 AM
Didn't we got kicked last time from the top list, since we " made" people voting from the loader, and that was illegal.
I guess "making" people vote like this is illegal also
Am I wrong ?
kikos, ur free time are increasing :S
Quote from: Kikolina on June 04, 2009, 03:51:25 PM
no shit, holidays are here ^^
"u can feel the Envy spirit throws on you". :S
damn
haha
summer there?
winter here lol, 9ºC :'(
Quote from: Kikolina on June 03, 2009, 07:00:15 PM
means when about xy ppl asked already about it, nightmare people, dont get answer they're all dumb? are u trying to say whole nightmare is dumb? pls repeat my words and ill stay quiet next few thousands years
and no im not like u guys knowing answer and not posting, rather remain smartass :)
And who says they don't get any answers? There's multiple ways of communication possible among people, the only one you seem to know is forums.
We don't answer everything on forums, sometimes because either we don't know the answer, either we can't do anything about it, or either it's easier to talk to that individual in person. Ways like that consist of talking in-game or simply on MSN.
But since you seem to be not even from Nightmare server, so I doubt you have any idea about this, you should try to shush shush and get back to your own server and bug your own GM's over there. You can come bug is when you actually start playing on Nightmare.
Quote from: Torek [IF] on June 04, 2009, 04:16:32 PM
omg what i read!!! seems that NM is the promised land, have you ever played somewhere else dudes before say that???
ppl are accustomed of DN so in their eyes dn is a good server, simply let's play in some other server (l2 dex or l2reloaded f.e.) and you will see what a "good server " means.....
+1
we stay here for friends and community, not because of server(s) goodness...
Quote from: Demonsfall on June 05, 2009, 05:30:54 PM
you should try to shush shush and get back to your own server and bug your own GM's over there.
lol, what a joke, demonsfall! gms somewhere else? where?
(btw, this is general section, if I'm not mistaken)
Quote from: ehlena on June 05, 2009, 05:48:07 PM
(btw, this is general section, if I'm not mistaken)
hmmmm....... I do believe you're right....... ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: ehlena on June 05, 2009, 05:48:07 PM
lol, what a joke, demonsfall! gms somewhere else? where?
(btw, this is general section, if I'm not mistaken)
Indeed this is.
But since he mentioned himself something that was from the Nightmare 30x section, and was pointing on that. Last time I also checked, both me and TrackZero are from Nightmare 30x.
force voting ftw
edit
it's like cp pot macro ware isn't it ? ::)
but still this window is annoying. He reappears more often than the 12h vote possibility.
I completely understand the benefit for dnet however. Just make it TRULLY disappear for 12h once we vote.
BUT there was a time when Dnet was always between 1st and 5th, and without "forced" voting.
Just do what you say and say what you do.
@demonsfall: we all know you are NM gms. But Trackzero often seems to speak for the whole network, I think that's why ppl ask him questions about the whole network. Aren't Trackzero and Drake some kind of associates? at least for music ;)
u wanna play alone( single player option)? dont vote!. u like ur server to be crowded? vote! the problem for our dragon servers is: we need 2-3 gm on every server. is imposible for one gm to manage all issues. they have life, jobs, girl/boyfriends, family. they have, like us, problems in real life. i hate/want too some things( freight is not global or not all ur items can be freight cose u dont see them; cose some1 exploit summon friend now that skill is disabled; walkers... oooo so many in catacombs, necropolis,bs and mos( for the moment mos spoil is not working)...... maybe offline market to work i want; some items i cannot discard, put in wh or destroy; make all dwarfs from wh aden able to receive items in wh and retrieve items from- is not so important now but when nm is in good days is a little story to use walderal options; and dont talk about events, when we have here events is like we have Christmas, and most of them u can find on other servers from years ago--is true track make on the end of the 2008, for few moths, some events but this is a ussual think on every other server). so again one gm cannot do everything. my opinion is we need more gm on every server. maybe i am wrong maybe not but this my opinion. i hope my criticism is a constructive one and if some ppl feel offend sorry for that.
Quote from: edi on June 06, 2009, 01:14:58 AM
u wanna play alone( single player option)? dont vote!. u like ur server to be crowded? vote! the problem for our dragon servers is: we need 2-3 gm on every server. is imposible for one gm to manage all issues. they have life, jobs, girl/boyfriends, family. they have, like us, problems in real life. i hate/want too some things( freight is not global or not all ur items can be freight cose u dont see them; cose some1 exploit summon friend now that skill is disabled; walkers... oooo so many in catacombs, necropolis,bs and mos( for the moment mos spoil is not working)...... maybe offline market to work i want; some items i cannot discard, put in wh or destroy; make all dwarfs from wh aden able to receive items in wh and retrieve items from- is not so important now but when nm is in good days is a little story to use walderal options; and dont talk about events, when we have here events is like we have Christmas, and most of them u can find on other servers from years ago--is true track make on the end of the 2008, for few moths, some events but this is a ussual think on every other server). so again one gm cannot do everything. my opinion is we need more gm on every server. maybe i am wrong maybe not but this my opinion. i hope my criticism is a constructive one and if some ppl feel offend sorry for that.
i always wondered, what those people that write a large text without a break are thinking.
its not fun to read such heavy block texts.
it takes like 5 seconds to place text breaks.
to come back to vote window...
If I want to vote for BOTH top (using middle click to open in new window), windows doesn't get off ;)
Why am I more annoyed than a player that will vote once (with a normal click, windows get off, at least till next session in dnet forum)
Quote from: Kikolina on June 06, 2009, 11:15:36 AM
hehe with all ur time u dont have while fixing hb, u prefer to answer 1 by 1 on msn/pm than 1 post on announcement/in topic where ppl asks for it? prefer to write these long posts fighting for a simple answer "it was nerfed, its not working correct" or as u said "we have no idea what happend and our hands are locked"?
not to mention when i pmed track in game for like xy times i had no answer..
as i wrote upthere, i can fidn u topics where NIGHTMARE people are asking for it without an asnwer, anyway what kind of bullshit is it that only ppl that plays there can ask for stuff? like u re not from usa/england u cant use english lol.. wer all playing the same game..
after seeing how our beloved leaders are thinking i m rly not surpriced where we are :D
Maybe you should think for a bit before you even post about that.
Since for your information I'm a forums Mod, and that's the only thing I do, I control forums.
I'm a bit tired of answering to every topic saying I either don't know why, or any other sort like answer, NM players know this, because I've already told them dozens of times. Besides that I do in fact have a personal life, still studying and in the same time working to pay for my studies, so if you would excuse me for the lack of free time to respond to every topic I see fit.
I answer to anyone when I am able to help, when I can't, I don't, not anymore. It's getting a bit tiresome answering 200 topics and PM's every day.
Quote from: Kikolina on June 06, 2009, 10:22:09 PM
3 and yea if u re 2 tired u may pass ur job to someone who has more time for it ;)
1,2,3
Quote from: Kikolina on June 06, 2009, 10:22:09 PM
first of all i d like to say u didnt answer even one point of my post so i dont know why u even quoted me..
but since u already show ur new statments i ll answer them
1 therefor exsist a place called announcement when u post 1 thing once and everybody reads it no ? and stop shit about tiredness, i already compared u the time and brain cells u spend for writing a flame post or answering the question (even saying, i dont know what happend, warn ppl, w/e)
2 and its funny how u are changing ur own opinion every single min, 1 page ago whole ur community was consisting on pm/msn which obviously takes more time than an answered post on forum that about 300 ppl reads at a time, and now suddenly u ran out of time to answer a pm (not that its a good way of communicating with 8k players that u re saying so proudly we have with studying on ur back..
3 and yea if u re 2 tired u may pass ur job to someone who has more time for it ;)
1. Announcement exists for GM's, I'm not a GM, so I have no reason to post there.
2. It's funny how you apparently got nothing better to do than bother a forums Moderator from a different server on which you don't even play.
3. Won't happen.
It's a bit late, since I don't believe anyone will do anything about voting now, but I have an idea which I've seen on one server...
You wasn't forced to vote in the way we've got here.. You can vote and after each vote you can select your character and this char will have +20 recommend points.
It is cool, you can vote every day, everyone will be happy.. Server would go up, new ppl will maybe come, you would have blue name... :)
Think about it :) I know you will not anyway, because it is too much work :P
Quote from: Ashlynn on June 23, 2009, 10:07:49 PM
It's a bit late, since I don't believe anyone will do anything about voting now, but I have an idea which I've seen on one server...
You wasn't forced to vote in the way we've got here.. You can vote and after each vote you can select your character and this char will have +20 recommend points.
It is cool, you can vote every day, everyone will be happy.. Server would go up, new ppl will maybe come, you would have blue name... :)
Think about it :) I know you will not anyway, because it is too much work :P
Good idea, then mb those "whats in it for me" ppl will start voting aswell.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 24, 2009, 11:13:41 AM
Good idea, then mb those "whats in it for me" ppl will start voting aswell.
yes, it is still much easier then logging dual-box in, or purchase recs for buffing someone. and also much faster. :P
:) nice idea