Lethal chance is unbelievable .. every time i meet a freaking dagger iinside oly it ends with lethal . .. whats the % right now of lethal ? . i know many retards will come with the lame reply .. this is how it was made on official .. this is not official this is dn and this is the same reason erase and mana burn nerfed to death.
Fix the rate of this retarded chance or reduce the effect .. not to god damn 1 hp .. half hp maybe or something or 1/3 hp .. this is lame dying by 1 shot all the time when i meet a dagger
@zthrx the tard .. i know u will come here so i have a ready reply to u .. ask daggers in oly .. if u suck too much thats ur problem .. astri the same class as yours and he has 180 + points ..
Quote from: Diabolical on June 16, 2009, 11:18:19 PM
Lethal chance is unbelievable .. every time i meet a freaking dagger iinside oly it ends with lethal . .. whats the % right now of lethal ? . i know many retards will come with the lame reply .. this is how it was made on official .. this is not official this is dn and this is the same reason erase and mana burn nerfed to death.
Fix the rate of this retarded chance or reduce the effect .. not to god damn 1 hp .. half hp maybe or something or 1/3 hp .. this is lame dying by 1 shot all the time when i meet a dagger
@zthrx the tard .. i know u will come here so i have a ready reply to u .. ask daggers in oly .. if u suck too much thats ur problem .. astri the same class as yours and he has 180 + points ..
I was avoiding to insult ppl last time, and that was kinda good choice.
seeing you crying and insulting is rly sad :/
I'll make for ya test of lethal, coz fullbuffed I killed 2 chimeras after xxxx failed lethals (strong bitches nowdays)
ps: grats to astri for "making" such a lot of points, rly rly impressive, GJ
Quote from: Diabolical on June 16, 2009, 11:18:19 PM
Lethal chance is unbelievable .. every time i meet a freaking dagger iinside oly it ends with lethal . .. whats the % right now of lethal ? . i know many retards will come with the lame reply .. this is how it was made on official .. this is not official this is dn and this is the same reason erase and mana burn nerfed to death.
Fix the rate of this retarded chance or reduce the effect .. not to god damn 1 hp .. half hp maybe or something or 1/3 hp .. this is lame dying by 1 shot all the time when i meet a dagger
@zthrx the tard .. i know u will come here so i have a ready reply to u .. ask daggers in oly .. if u suck too much thats ur problem .. astri the same class as yours and he has 180 + points ..
This is because of oly cryiers like you that some combo got so heavyly nerfed and are unplayable on pvp out of oly ...
how many ppl play at oly? 4% of the server?
Stop ask for XXX nerf because of oly >:(
Quote from: kvkun on June 17, 2009, 01:28:25 AM
This is because of oly cryiers like you that some combo got so heavyly nerfed and are unplayable on pvp out of oly ...
how many ppl play at oly? 4% of the server?
Stop ask for XXX nerf because of oly >:(
this is why we mages got nerf because of oly , and this damn chance of lethal need to be fixed
actually it has chance for .. 1 cp , half kill ( 1/2 hp) and .. 1 hp . and why fix what isn't broken ?!
Quote from: tzuc on June 17, 2009, 09:28:55 AM
actually it has chance for .. 1 cp , half kill ( 1/2 hp) and .. 1 hp . and why fix what isn't broken ?!
and i'm sorry but i can't remember what fix mages got o.O ?!
Agree to reduce the chance of lethal strikes ... why not ? , it's abit unfair and foolish to lose by 1 hit and there is ofc no fun to win by luck , but to compare lethals with mana burn and erase and agumentations in oly is totaly ridiculous . coz lethal strike rate even on char with max setup for it and style of playing still depending on luck as ahigh rate and assassins classes still beatable with agood chance specially Vs mana whores / gladiators / tyrants / paladins / quite well skilled mages , unlike bots+agumentations thats chance to beat them is near 0% ( without lethal ofc ) , foolish to put this infront of that coz there is no comparison at all .
Quote from: SysTemHacK on June 17, 2009, 11:42:58 AM
Agree to reduce the chance of lethal strikes ... why not ? , it's abit unfair and foolish to lose by 1 hit and there is ofc no fun to win by luck , but to compare lethals with mana burn and erase and agumentations in oly is totaly ridiculous . coz lethal strike rate even on char with max setup for it and style of playing still depending on luck as ahigh rate and assassins classes still beatable with agood chance specially Vs mana whores / gladiators / tyrants / paladins / quite well skilled mages , unlike bots+agumentations thats chance to beat them is near 0% ( without lethal ofc ) , foolish to put this infront of that coz there is no comparison at all .
lethal rate is ok for me
1/10 fights vs daggers is lethal, dunno maybe i was lucky
this is smth normal, but mana burn isnt normal lol , chars with nice augm+mana burn insane reuse time are UNBEATABLE at oly so you cant compare it with daggers because some orcs,mages,gladies can win daggers but vs mana burn whores as you say is immpossible
NERF ERASE
lol, and the best thing is that people who are whining about lethals ... do not play dagger char! Kinda cant believe in the topic u made rebel lol, this is the point, daggerist must come up to the enemy, during that time u always throw on him shitloads of debuffs, mana burns, n shit. So tell me now, how would he win?
Quote from: tzuc on June 17, 2009, 09:33:23 AM
and i'm sorry but i can't remember what fix mages got o.O ?!
mana burn reuse is like 3x now and it fails most of the time .. its not even worth using it :S:S
erase is nerfed 2x time and land rate is freaked as well
@ ppl in topic .. u still complain about mana burn and erase even after it being nerf to death :/ .. u dudnt even check it in game u just complain lol
Quote from: tzuc on June 17, 2009, 09:28:55 AM
actually it has chance for .. 1 cp , half kill ( 1/2 hp) and .. 1 hp . and why fix what isn't broken ?!
i guess that applies the same for mana burn and erase .. both arent broken but since it was made for elders /pp / bp on retail only and because of dn subs .. those skills became OP so they nerf it .. same rule applies for lethal .. it was made for retail dagger now we r not retaill so its op
Quote from: iNs on June 17, 2009, 12:21:10 PM
lol, and the best thing is that people who are whining about lethals ... do not play dagger char! Kinda cant believe in the topic u made rebel lol, this is the point, daggerist must come up to the enemy, during that time u always throw on him shitloads of debuffs, mana burns, n shit. So tell me now, how would he win?
I tested dagger , spash tested dagger , lethal rate is high .. dont bs me and say its not high .. coz on my th / pal i lethal most of the time or take a look at Yoshimo or Drakslord and ask them or even Astri
and for mana burn its useless atm as i explained before
and im not asking to kill the skill .. im saying nerf the rate or remove the retarded 1 hp lethal landing
Quote from: Diabolical on June 17, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
I tested dagger , spash tested dagger , lethal rate is high .. dont bs me and say its not high .. coz on my th / pal i lethal most of the time or take a look at Yoshimo or Drakslord and ask them or even Astri
and for mana burn its useless atm as i explained before
and im not asking to kill the skill .. im saying nerf the rate or remove the retarded 1 hp lethal landing
Thats because of crit blow lol, Eviltwist doesnt lethal that often, OMG OMG NERF ONLY PW AND TH ... ( lol, thats the way u want to do it ? :d)
Quote from: Diabolical on June 17, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
mana burn reuse is like 3x now and it fails most of the time .. its not even worth using it :S:S
erase is nerfed 2x time and land rate is freaked as well
@ ppl in topic .. u still complain about mana burn and erase even after it being nerf to death :/ .. u dudnt even check it in game u just complain lol
whats the sucess rate of erase right now?
cause yesterday again at oly my poor cursed man got freaked (again) arround 7/9 erases suceed
give us back the old oly with a lot of space to kite slowed daggers and problem solved.
Nerf Lethal cos of Oly? Just gtfo Rebel,nobody use ur shity chars out of oly(just u,and u have Promi aug which doesn't need fix),even less a Mana Burn aug,anyway,many augs got fixed,it just was'bout time...
Now let's nerf everything cos of Oly lol
lethals are in 80% CP lethals even on mobs, I spend lot of time killing chimeras and 100% blows were landing rarely, you can ask many ppl in Epic I was farming with.
And yea, it's about luck during mage makes always the same DMG per hit + crits, and blows they landing about every second or even third, so daggers are always out of mana rly fast...
you can have extremely land of mana burn, slow landing 100% and every debuff on server, but instead make blows land rate 100% and we are OK. Bcoz dagger needs to chase ur chicken ass, during you just wait till debuffs land on him. And you are whining coz you got lucky lethaled during you failed to debuff him on a time...
ps: completely no1, no1 I was fight with, was complaining about lethals.. bcoz when fight takes some time it's clear that some1 make lethal (first between dagger vs dagger)(or mage crit), I don't even complain if mage crit me, and no1 is crying also when he says he got mage crited during siege, just luck...
And we should now cry coz, mages makes couple crits in a row.. just let ppl talk
Come on! stop say that! STOP NERF CHARRRRRRRSSSS!!! This modifications bring unbalance 4 this game!!!! JUST STOP CHANGE THE SKILLS TO TRY BALANCE CAUSE WE GOT REVERSE!!!!!!
If u want a nerf, nerf my dk, its to much bigger! 8)
ps: sry for caps.
Quote from: leobruno on June 17, 2009, 03:45:15 PM
If u want a nerf, nerf my dk, its to much bigger! 8)
post a pic, we will think about it ;D
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someone wanna play chess?
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
post a pic, we will think about it ;D
fu cking fag! sorry abouit that, i got to say it
@topic: actually, when i play olys on daggerist, i rarely land an instant kill, in fact....when i play against a daggerist, i always get killed by an instant kill/lethal..... so lets nerf lethal, cos sometimes is annoying.... ofc in other times may save ur ass but, actually a good daggerist doesnt need that to fight or to win.....
Quote from: Sephiroth on June 17, 2009, 01:56:45 PM
Nerf Lethal cos of Oly? Just gtfo Rebel,nobody use ur shity chars out of oly(just u,and u have Promi aug which doesn't need fix),even less a Mana Burn aug,anyway,many augs got fixed,it just was'bout time...
Now let's nerf everything cos of Oly lol
isnt that why erase and mana burn got nerf ??? it was because of oly .. or its good when ppl cry for mana burn and erase because of oly and now its not good anymore ?
and i use my "shitty char" outside oly and i enjoy playing it and this is not about my char now .. its about daggers lethal to 1 hp
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
lethals are in 80% CP lethals even on mobs, I spend lot of time killing chimeras and 100% blows were landing rarely, you can ask many ppl in Epic I was farming with.
me ( th / pal ) and puff (th/wk) we went to chimera and there was no single mob died without getting lethal , its way high rate , since its hard to observe it outside , watch dagger fights inside oly and check how much they lethal
@ rest of ur post .. u compare lethal to a mage crit ? .. archers crit , daggers crit all fighters crit with skills lol , is that ur argument ? i would understand u if u said that in c4 times but since IL there r chances for crittign during skill so comparing lethal to a magic crit is nonsense , even magic crit rate got nerf
Quote from: our4n0s on June 17, 2009, 04:27:43 PM
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someone wanna play chess?
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Quote from: Diabolical on June 17, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
isnt that why erase and mana burn got nerf ??? it was because of oly .. or its good when ppl cry for mana burn and erase because of oly and now its not good anymore ?
and i use my "shitty char" outside oly and i enjoy playing it and this is not about my char now .. its about daggers lethal to 1 hp
No,Erase was nerfed cos out of Oly was the same shit for ppl with summons,it was op and had to be fixed.Mana Burn aug was nerfed cos it was op,no reuse,while Mana Burn skill was nerfed long ago,so why the aug. skill should stay different from the original skill?.
Yes,that's what I said,u'r the only one who use it out,so I bet u'll play the same way w/o Mana Burn aug..
Daggers Lethals r fine the way it's now,mages r gonna die fast w/ or w/o Lethal,and at least u give daggers a chance to kill Tanks,and fighters with shitloads of CP/HP.It should be that way,isn't it? Aren't daggers meant to be one of the best classes in 1 vs 1?.
Quote from: Sephiroth on June 17, 2009, 07:53:08 PM
No,Erase was nerfed cos out of Oly was the same shit for ppl with summons,it was op and had to be fixed.Mana Burn aug was nerfed cos it was op,no reuse,while Mana Burn skill was nerfed long ago,so why the aug. skill should stay different from the original skill?.
Yes,that's what I said,u'r the only one who use it out,so I bet u'll play the same way w/o Mana Burn aug..
Daggers Lethals r fine the way it's now,mages r gonna die fast w/ or w/o Lethal,and at least u give daggers a chance to kill Tanks,and fighters with shitloads of CP/HP.It should be that way,isn't it? Aren't daggers meant to be one of the best classes in 1 vs 1?.
Uhm, Mana burn normal skill was nerfed same time as Erase ;f
Quote from: Diabolical on June 17, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
isnt that why erase and mana burn got nerf ??? it was because of oly .. or its good when ppl cry for mana burn and erase because of oly and now its not good anymore ?
and i use my "shitty char" outside oly and i enjoy playing it and this is not about my char now .. its about daggers lethal to 1 hp
me ( th / pal ) and puff (th/wk) we went to chimera and there was no single mob died without getting lethal , its way high rate , since its hard to observe it outside , watch dagger fights inside oly and check how much they lethal
@ rest of ur post .. u compare lethal to a mage crit ? .. archers crit , daggers crit all fighters crit with skills lol , is that ur argument ? i would understand u if u said that in c4 times but since IL there r chances for crittign during skill so comparing lethal to a magic crit is nonsense , even magic crit rate got nerf
0 arguments, 0 screens of test, 0 real resons to nerf
And try to kill 2 chimeras only with blows, without using single mana pots, and compare it to a mage who fullbuffed makes always the same dmg.
Dude don't enlighten me how dagger should work...
Quote from: Furesy on June 17, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
Uhm, Mana burn normal skill was nerfed same time as Erase ;f
Mana Burn reuse was nerfed long ago,wasn't it?.
Quote from: Sephiroth on June 17, 2009, 08:10:41 PM
Mana Burn reuse was nerfed long ago,wasn't it?.
mana burn got nerf again lol .. where have u been :D ?
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 08:05:17 PM
0 arguments, 0 screens of test, 0 real resons to nerf
And try to kill 2 chimeras only with blows, without using single mana pots, and compare it to a mage who fullbuffed makes always the same dmg.
Dude don't enlighten me how dagger should work...
u want screens ?? of what ? .. of msg saying LETHAL several times .. that proves it to u ??
wanna test it together ?? catch me ingame and i will prove it to u
Quote from: Diabolical on June 17, 2009, 08:21:35 PM
mana burn got nerf again lol .. where have u been :D ?
I know'bout aug. Mana Burn,and I agree'bout that nerf,but normal Mana Burn skill used to be nice,at least when I played EE/SPS,but,didn't test it in HB.I thought that just Augmented Mana Burn was nerfed,not the skill ( once again ),my bad so,but anyway I won't change my opinion'bout Lethals,neither'bout aug.Mana Burn.
i ve been w8ing long time to say smth like that :
NERF LETHAL
Quote from: lucifsg on June 17, 2009, 08:32:20 PM
i ve been w8ing long time to say smth like that :
NERF LETHAL
Talking'bout out of Oly,take a freaking WC and a SWS,and use COP and WindStorm,and voila,daggers/archers will be Elpys for u.
Anyway,if we'r gonna talk'bout nerfing things cos of Oly,nerf Zealot,UD,Vengeance,Dash,and w/e u want!....
Mana Burn aug. and Erase nerfs still had sense,but this one...
Quote from: lucifsg on June 17, 2009, 08:32:20 PM
i ve been w8ing long time to say smth like that :
NERF LETHAL
why, I don't even use lethal to kill ur char, 3 blows are enought, so give some reasons if you cry here...
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
why, I don't even use lethal to kill ur char, 3 blows are enought, so give some reasons if you cry here...
the reason of nerf lethal is right here
it's quite annoying when you die by someone who hit you for 500-1000 damage, and he thinks he killed you without lethal :D
and th/pp is most funny char for oly, all they do is spam random blows and wait for lethal, some at least know what they r doing, some think they win couse of their skills ::)
anyway official changes to lethal:
instead of making the player HP to 1, it makes it to 50% hp
WE WANT THIS HERE!!
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
the reason of nerf lethal is right here
it's quite annoying when you die by someone who hit you for 500-1000 damage, and he thinks he killed you without lethal :D
and th/pp is most funny char for oly, all they do is spam random blows and wait for lethal, some at least know what they r doing, some think they win couse of their skills ::)
anyway official changes to lethal:
instead of making the player HP to 1, it makes it to 50% hp
WE WANT THIS HERE!!
dude what a bullshit you talk... did you even played a dagger? spam blows? did you read what I wrote that only every second and third blow lands? go oly and know you aren't able to use mana pots, than pray for the best lucky blows land (without half skills launched coz of mana eater), and go kill mage
If you know a shiit don't write a shiit mofo. I had never problem that some1 lethaled me, I'm pissed when some heals himself whole fight, waits till ur mana went down and thinks he is gorgeous
Cry more, because no1 wrote a rational reason, so till now you are bunch of cryers.. exactly 3 from whole server for now
GL
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 09:03:20 PM
the reason of nerf lethal is right here
it's quite annoying when you die by someone who hit you for 500-1000 damage, and he thinks he killed you without lethal :D
and th/pp is most funny char for oly, all they do is spam random blows and wait for lethal, some at least know what they r doing, some think they win couse of their skills ::)
anyway official changes to lethal:
instead of making the player HP to 1, it makes it to 50% hp
WE WANT THIS HERE!!
This is Gracia feauture so if you want this i also want 3x Magic Critical Damage not 4,max mcritrate 20% NOT 40% as it is now,we DON'T want mana burn crits (that's retarded) and i finally i want attribute manager (and working elemental passives 81 lvl of course).
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 09:14:08 PM
dude what a bullshit you talk... did you even played a dagger? spam blows? did you read what I wrote that only every second and third blow lands? go oly and know you aren't able to use mana pots, than pray for the best lucky blows land (without half skills launched coz of mana eater), and go kill mage
If you know a shiit don't write a shiit mofo. I had never problem that some1 lethaled me, I'm pissed when some heals himself whole fight, waits till ur mana went down and thinks he is gorgeous
Cry more, because no1 wrote a rational reason, so till now you are bunch of cryers.. exactly 3 from whole server for now
GL
i played dagger when there was a reason to play it
now reason?
too low dmg and you know why?
couse 1:
shield defense for mages is not the way it used to be (C4 - where non-tank didnt block 100%)
couse 2:
STUN NEVER LANDSso like you say, i know your annoyed when u try kill a healer and without lethal it's nearly impossible becouse he will be only turned against you (if he's smart), where your dmg is total shit, and there is no chance to stun it and you either: lethal him or run out of MP
and that's what daggers are now, spam random blows, and wait for lethal, who cares if you miss 2 out of 3 blows? just wait for lethal lol, and dont use backstab/visius stance couse it use more MP = less chance for lethal
and this aint about oly, everywhere you go, 1st targets: healers/ressers, 2nd: daggers, then mages, then rest
and you know why daggers have priority? not couse they do damage, but couse they Lethal, i can be well protected against any mage or any archer, glads do 1 hard hit then nothing for a while....
and btw u know whats even more annoying? you only cry-ing here about mage bla bla, you think this is only mage vs dagger and archer?
what about the PAL/WL that has 20k HP, 5k CP, and stands on 6k pdef, 5k mdef, and here comes a dagger, boom lethal ??
it's like C1/C2 when stabs ignored your defense....
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
i played dagger when there was a reason to play it
now reason?
too low dmg and you know why?
couse 1: shield defense for mages is not the way it used to be (C4 - where non-tank didnt block 100%)
couse 2: STUN NEVER LANDS
so like you say, i know your annoyed when u try kill a healer and without lethal it's nearly impossible becouse he will be only turned against you (if he's smart), where your dmg is total shit, and there is no chance to stun it and you either: lethal him or run out of MP
and that's what daggers are now, spam random blows, and wait for lethal, who cares if you miss 2 out of 3 blows? just wait for lethal lol, and dont use backstab/visius stance couse it use more MP = less chance for lethal
and this aint about oly, everywhere you go, 1st targets: healers/ressers, 2nd: daggers, then mages, then rest
and you know why daggers have priority? not couse they do damage, but couse they Lethal, i can be well protected against any mage or any archer, glads do 1 hard hit then nothing for a while....
and btw u know whats even more annoying? you only cry-ing here about mage bla bla, you think this is only mage vs dagger and archer?
what about the PAL/WL that has 20k HP, 5k CP, and stands on 6k pdef, 5k mdef, and here comes a dagger, boom lethal ??
it's like C1/C2 when stabs ignored your defense....
dude thats good you are not playing daggers, I've just read whole drama of person who has no skills to play this kind of char :D
what a fantastic tactic btw: make pt of dagger at siege rush and wait for lethals = every1 will be dead :D
dude I don't even use lethal so often- vicious stance +15, FD, guard stance + 15, mana pot and hey hoooo into the enemy
ps: and there are no random blows dude, bluff>backstab, if bluff wont land> deadly, stun blow, lethal, switch and so on, and mana mana mana, and you have to watch ur reuse skills and how ur skills land on enemy, and watching all the time ur hp bar and watch ur buff bar and your mana bar, if mana is low, turn off GW and stay only on VS and mana mana mana, or move back wait for 1/3 mana and go again make some blows, switches, stuns... , if you got debuffed or some skills canceled and Tol finally so on....
not mention how to play in mass pvp/ sieges, rushing and in 1s targeting most important targets watching where Orkozod casting CP an switch him, and again stun healer next to you, than buff backstab, switch ork, finish healer, target next healer, watching mana blablabla and still in action....
you have to have balls to play dagger my dear...
ye nerf lethal, yesterday I couldnt kill anyone on oly cuz I get lethaled every single fight even vs bd/se!
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 10:07:13 PM
dude thats good you are not playing daggers, I've just read whole drama of person who has no skills to play this kind of char :D
what a fantastic tactic btw: make pt of dagger at siege rush and wait for lethals = every1 will be dead :D
dude I don't even use lethal so often- vicious stance +15, guard stance + 15, mana pot and hey hoooo into the enemy
you have to have a balls to play dagger my dear...
ok mate, be it like this
you never "use" lethal so often, so you dont need it right?
so we can remove it and you wont care since you kill stuff without lethal right? becouse your soooo profesional in playing dagger right? xD
so why are you still saying to not remove lethal?? pls mate go oly, coliseum, outside town and fight th/pp, your a pw/tk rights? make 10 fights vs th/pp
with full gear and tell me results, gogo, or even better, go vs th/pal and use mana pots, CP pots, heal pots!
btw if your so pro, tell me how many pvp score you made since Interlude came? if your even playing since that time, or just forum wanna-be guy like pro WindPhoenix, the sps/es that can beat every1 in oly but isnt even ranked becouse of 0 points?
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
ok mate, be it like this
you never "use" lethal so often, so you dont need it right?
so we can remove it and you wont care since you kill stuff without lethal right? becouse your soooo profesional in playing dagger right? xD
so why are you still saying to not remove lethal?? pls mate go oly, coliseum, outside town and fight th/pp, your a pw/tk rights? make 10 fights vs th/pp with full gear and tell me results, gogo, or even better, go vs th/pal and use mana pots, CP pots, heal pots!
btw if your so pro, tell me how many pvp score you made since Interlude came? if your even playing since that time, or just forum wanna-be guy like pro WindPhoenix, the sps/es that can beat every1 in oly but isnt even ranked becouse of 0 points?
hejcia
mmm I tell you it's impossible to finish fight against dagger/tank coz before or after, some make lethal- because it should land at least.. and yea it's ok for every1, for every dagger I played and that was funny that after >5 min fight some made lethal (in 85% fight that was at the end). And I made shitload of Pvps vs daggers. And it's easy to check who I fight with coz I use almost only Pdef pots.. so means daggers are more (out of town).
And I play dagger since over 4 years active, I know every move, every skill, every combo for every class I have to fight... and if you wanna pvp just tell 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 10:25:33 PM
mmm I tell you it's impossible to finish fight against dagger/tank coz before or after, some make lethal- because it should land at least.. and yea it's ok for every1, for every dagger I played and that was funny that after >5 min fight some made lethal (in 85% fight that was at the end). And I made shitload of Pvps vs daggers. And it's easy to check who I fight with coz I use almost only Pdef pots.. so means daggers are more (out of town).
And I play dagger since over 4 years active, I know every move, every skill, every combo for every class I have to fight... and if you wanna pvp just tell 8) 8) 8)
|POLAND|
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 10:25:33 PM
mmm I tell you it's impossible to finish fight against dagger/tank coz before or after, some make lethal- because it should land at least.. and yea it's ok for every1, for every dagger I played and that was funny that after >5 min fight some made lethal (in 85% fight that was at the end). And I made shitload of Pvps vs daggers. And it's easy to check who I fight with coz I use almost only Pdef pots.. so means daggers are more (out of town).
And I play dagger since over 4 years active, I know every move, every skill, every combo for every class I have to fight... and if you wanna pvp just tell 8) 8) 8)
ok if you made a shit load of pvps, where are you on top nightmare ranks please, i dont see you anywhere ???
then go search infinity ranks, and find me, and guess what char i played in c4 8)
ps. i know its impossible to finish a fight vs dagger/tank +pots without lethal, but TRY VS TH/PP, that's not a tank, then tell me who will win more and why, dont forget i sayd:
FULL GEARas i remmember in the early IL, it was bullshit having 2k pdef, 8k hp, UD/vengeance, super shield def, when all of it is taken by 1 newbie in dc light, AND I MEAN
OFTEN. was another reason to quit the char :>
and now instead of fixing stuff, they make lethals land more, 100% mcrit was possible and now warcry dont work with bow anymore, lol :D
and ofcourse we must remmember that changing drain health attribute from dark to fire had so much sense ;D
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 10:40:27 PM
ok if you made a shit load of pvps, where are you on top nightmare ranks please, i dont see you anywhere ???
then go search infinity ranks, and find me, and guess what char i played in c4 8)
ps. i know its impossible to finish a fight vs dagger/tank +pots without lethal, but TRY VS TH/PP, that's not a tank, then tell me who will win more and why, dont forget i sayd: FULL GEAR
as i remmember in the early IL, it was bullshit having 2k pdef, 8k hp, UD/vengeance, super shield def, when all of it is taken by 1 newbie in dc light, AND I MEAN OFTEN. was another reason to quit the char :>
and now instead of fixing stuff, they make lethals land more, 100% mcrit was possible and now warcry dont work with bow anymore, lol :D
yep you are wright... I am no one on Nightmare... Hmm since when there is some rank on NM? 8)
anyway I'm just a simple noob hanging around.
But be sure if you meet me finally and flag, you wont stay alive more than couple seconds :) 8) :)
but if you want some noobish pvp just Pm like many ppl did to "try their skills" :*
wtb action
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 17, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
lethal rate is ok for me
1/10 fights vs daggers is lethal, dunno maybe i was lucky
this is smth normal, but mana burn isnt normal lol , chars with nice augm+mana burn insane reuse time are UNBEATABLE at oly so you cant compare it with daggers because some orcs,mages,gladies can win daggers but vs mana burn whores as you say is immpossible
NERF ERASE
No one is unbeatable at oly, really.
U sure must've been lucky because in every dagger fight I saw there was at least one full lethal.
Not to mention my fight on Kazimira with pw/tk - guess who, starting on "A" xD - first blow on cat - lethal, new cat summoned, first blow, lethal, then he came to me and lethaled me also with first blow, it's not my imagination, it's reality :p
Later, when I was playing Spash i also got lethal in most of my fights, not bad for me but it's quite unfair and ridiculous.
still wondering what is the rate of erase nowadays?
Quote from: zthrx on June 17, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
why, I don't even use lethal to kill ur char, 3 blows are enought, so give some reasons if you cry here...
dude ur so pro on the forum XD
chill ur not even close to the pro u act
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 18, 2009, 12:33:41 AM
still wondering what is the rate of erase nowadays?
ur on the wrong crytopic
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
ok mate, be it like this
you never "use" lethal so often, so you dont need it right?
so we can remove it and you wont care since you kill stuff without lethal right? becouse your soooo profesional in playing dagger right? xD
so why are you still saying to not remove lethal?? pls mate go oly, coliseum, outside town and fight th/pp, your a pw/tk rights? make 10 fights vs th/pp with full gear and tell me results, gogo, or even better, go vs th/pal and use mana pots, CP pots, heal pots!
btw if your so pro, tell me how many pvp score you made since Interlude came? if your even playing since that time, or just forum wanna-be guy like pro WindPhoenix, the sps/es that can beat every1 in oly but isnt even ranked becouse of 0 points?
wow .. this guy got a point .. i wonder why zthrx came up with nothing to that and just replied to the last part :D
so yeah seriously if u r so pro zthrx and u dont care for lethal why do u defend it ? .. another one doing a favor for mankind ?
Quote from: wildpussy on June 17, 2009, 10:18:49 PM
btw if your so pro, tell me how many pvp score you made since Interlude came? if your even playing since that time, or just forum wanna-be guy like pro WindPhoenix, the sps/es that can beat every1 in oly but isnt even ranked becouse of 0 points?
ok, i wont flame you, but that was really off.
I haven't played oly in more than 1 month at all, that is why i am not ranked.
And i am es/sps.
I am not offended, but other might consider very stupid saying harsh things without know what you are talking about 1st.
Thank you, have a nice day :)
we need cry skill nerfed not lethal ... :D :D
Quote from: Kikolina on June 18, 2009, 09:49:18 AM
m crit is 25%
oh rly? than lucky bastars m. crited me 3x times in a row on sheld of faith, and guess what even Astri didn't lethaled me (also there was no single lethal in yesterdays pvp) in first shot- rly rly weird... count how many m crits landed and how many "almighty lethals" and cry on...
imho useless topic, nothing will change with lethal, simple coz there is nothing to change...
WM trigger decreases Crit rate! (some bird told me!) xD
(http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/dawson-crying.jpg)
ROFL! I saw this pic so many times but it always makes me laugh again :D
P.s. Pimp my char with working Elemental Storm, Blizzard, Aura Symphony PLX! :)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 18, 2009, 11:47:03 AM
ROFL! I saw this pic so many times but it always makes me laugh again :D
P.s. Pimp my char with working Elemental Storm, Blizzard, Aura Symphony PLX! :)
When u change ur sig to welcome NM <3 ;D
Quote from: TrackZero on June 18, 2009, 11:53:01 AM
When u change ur sig to welcome NM <3 ;D
I have to make my bouth chars heroes first xD
But i have bad gear since i droped valakas when i left so i guess ill stay with bb NM :P
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 18, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
I have to make my bouth chars heroes first xD
But i have bad gear since i droped valakas when i left so i guess ill stay with bb NM :P
Everyone knows that valakas is gay anyway.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 18, 2009, 11:58:15 AM
I have to make my bouth chars heroes first xD
But i have bad gear since i droped valakas when i left so i guess ill stay with bb NM :P
i drop my +6 when i was in army . i still wonder who was the lucky one to pick it up . his name was 3mptiness.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on June 18, 2009, 01:22:27 AM
I am not offended, but other might consider very stupid saying harsh things without know what you are talking about 1st.
Thank you, have a nice day :)
like u talking about my donations
Quote from: lucifsg on June 18, 2009, 04:19:58 PM
i drop my +6 when i was in army . i still wonder who was the lucky one to pick it up . his name was 3mptiness.
it was at aw golky, weren't it?
i remember once there was a valakas+6 drop and an antharas also, and db+f later :D
Actually, im playing Dagger chars for quite a while. Played several dagger chars and i have to admit. Lethal rate is kinda big. On the other hand we need a chance to hit dmg with blows, once we run out of mana were kinda useless. while Mages can hit every skill they do and dmg pretty good, daggers can't cause the landing rate isn't 100%.
Quote from: WindPhoenix on June 18, 2009, 07:36:32 PM
your what? ;D
Anyway, about chess, i was not kidding, i really enjoy playing it, i paid for the stuff on msn so this is easy way to have a game, anyone feel free to add me and we ll play chess (won't cost a cent) : ulysse_699@hotmail.com :) i accept ennemys too :P
Quote from: our4n0s on June 18, 2009, 10:45:29 PM
Anyway, about chess, i was not kidding, i really enjoy playing it, i paid for the stuff on msn so this is easy way to have a game, anyone feel free to add me and we ll play chess (won't cost a cent) : ulysse_699@hotmail.com :) i accept ennemys too :P
i'm not your enemy you prick, it just happened you farmed oly on my class ;D
added.
NERF LETHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
[size=100pt]NERF LETHAL[/size]
failed xD
Nerf 1 vs 1 based classes,ah,no,w8,Glad and Dagger r already nerfed,let's nerf'em even more!.
Quote from: Sephiroth on June 22, 2009, 09:06:37 AM
Nerf 1 vs 1 based classes,ah,no,w8,Glad and Dagger r already nerfed,let's nerf'em even more!.
dumb bump!
nerf lethal
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 22, 2009, 09:23:45 AM
dumb bump!
nerf lethal
At least I've got a point,u don't.So,keep nerfing ur brain.
Quote from: Sephiroth on June 22, 2009, 09:49:26 AM
At least I've got a point,u don't.So,keep nerfing ur brain.
if to write anything just to make ++ yr posts is a point then ye u have got a point
well done kid
nerf lethall
Nothing is nerfed, some mages can 2 shot frikking tanks with unlimited HP <.< 12k damage.
Im talking about icarus weapons <.<
I would suggest to fix skill enchantments (Assassination ,Focus Death , Dagger Mastery etc...) instead. You all gonna reroll your dagger chars after that ;D
Quote from: zthrx on June 22, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
NERF M. CRIT 8)
Nerf M.crit, Nerf lethals, Nerf the world. Just lemme keep my OP freezing strike and i'll be happy.
Nerf Lighting strike :D. This shit is really overpowered if used by mage char because it was made to work sometimes when used by a sk which has about 500 matk NOT 6k. If lethal land you may be saved if you are mage but with lighting strike no ;D
Quote from: VforVanilla on June 22, 2009, 12:37:50 PM
Nerf Lighting strike :D. This shit is really overpowered if used by mage char because it was made to work sometimes when used by a sk which has about 500 matk NOT 6k. If lethal land you may be saved if you are mage but with lighting strike no ;D
Yeah 400 range, long reuse, and reflect on every char with magical mirror buff.
It has about 15% landing rate on players when you play on mage stats,,,, yeah let's nerf it.
And 6k m.atk is only possible for sh/sk and sk/ps... On human stats with am+a+4 and Dnet robe set you will have about 3,5k m.atk.
Quote from: kidicarus on June 22, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
Yeah 400 range, long reuse, and reflect on every char with magical mirror buff.
It has about 15% landing rate on players when you play on mage stats,,,, yeah let's nerf it.
And 6k m.atk is only possible for sh/sk and sk/ps... On human stats with am+a+4 and Dnet robe set you will have about 3,5k m.atk.
who is using m. mirror at siege 8) dances, songs, cov, pots, (in my case, active GW or VS) and nothing more coz of lack space in buffbar...
Quote from: kidicarus on June 22, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
Yeah 400 range, long reuse, and reflect on every char with magical mirror buff.
It has about 15% landing rate on players when you play on mage stats,,,, yeah let's nerf it.
And 6k m.atk is only possible for sh/sk and sk/ps... On human stats with am+a+4 and Dnet robe set you will have about 3,5k m.atk.
You don't have arcane power, empowering echo and you cannot apply INT dyes with your char, so you can't know exactly how it works when is enchanted to+10 or more.
Quote from: VforVanilla on June 22, 2009, 01:02:07 PM
You don't have arcane power, empowering echo and you cannot apply INT dyes with your char, so you can't know exactly how it works when is enchanted to+10 or more.
Even if it lands, it doesn't last that long when it lands, so unless you're alone fighting 2 or 3 people you might die from it, but when you're in PT, usually the effect is already long gone before you die (let alone if it lands, it hardly does)
Quote from: Furesy on June 22, 2009, 01:04:19 PM
Even if it lands, it doesn't last that long when it lands, so unless you're alone fighting 2 or 3 people you might die from it, but when you're in PT, usually the effect is already long gone before you die (let alone if it lands, it hardly does)
They whine about oly's Lethals so i added this for oly also as in 30 secs which lasts is 90% possible to die from perfect condition with mdef higher of 1500.
Quote from: VforVanilla on June 22, 2009, 01:02:07 PM
You don't have arcane power, empowering echo and you cannot apply INT dyes with your char, so you can't know exactly how it works when is enchanted to+10 or more.
Well even if i don't have those things it's still not a threat. The only time you use it is during 1 vs 1... Trust me, thats why i brought up m.mirror.
Siege? Running within 400range on a mage is pretty dangerous... And even if it does land all party's have bishops at the siege and with 0 reuse on cleanse and purify you have pretty much done nothing anyway.
But yeah...... if you think it's taht much of a threat then be my guest..... nerf it to oblivion, i don't even have it in my bar anymore.
nerf lethal and fix landing rate of mana burn is too Low >.<
Delete all interlude + hellbound skills and items too ;D
Quote from: Titan1 on June 22, 2009, 05:42:26 PM
nerf lethal and fix landing rate of mana burn is too Low >.<
delete lethal skill at all, there will be no flames anymore.. why not
Pls stop spamming about those Lethals, m crit, erase etc... Yes, if i die by lethal, iam angry. But i know that i lost in clear way. If we talk about Oly the biggest problem are not o/e skills. The problem is "transfers". I think Around 30-40% Heros on this server are Fake. Meybe someone need to watch it games a litlle and "ban" or cut off some pts for that kind of behavior ... You dont need to be Sherlock to see that one guy is not even buffed and stay in box, and second is killing him without any problem.
Quote from: Shreed on June 23, 2009, 09:30:12 AM
Pls stop spamming about those Lethals, m crit, erase etc... Yes, if i die by lethal, iam angry. But i know that i lost in clear way. If we talk about Oly the biggest problem are not o/e skills. The problem is "transfers". I think Around 30-40% Heros on this server are Fake. Meybe someone need to watch it games a litlle and "ban" or cut off some pts for that kind of behavior ... You dont need to be Sherlock to see that one guy is not even buffed and stay in box, and second is killing him without any problem.
agree but what u suggest, track be on live every day at oly time and watch and ban?
we both know that he ll never do such a thing bro
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 23, 2009, 12:48:08 PM
agree but what u suggest, track be on live every day at oly time and watch and ban?
we both know that he ll never do such a thing bro
My suggest is to ban or cut all points from several ppl. Not every day, i know Track have much more things to do. But if he will do even 3-4 days in month and ban couple of ppl meybe the rest of it will start to fear. Like it was with boxes and l2w befor. I know meybe i am noob and fresh on Oly but when iam asking any1 to give me some advice i hear only :
"...go make some transfers", "... all ppl do this, welcome to NM", "... if you want i can help you to transfer some pts", "... you can buy hero status, some ppl selling pts"
Whats wrong with you ppl ? do you feel any satisfaction from be a fake hero?
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 01:36:58 PM
... dont be jelous starting stupid suggestions and play harder ;)
.... yeah and lets make special Oly section on Forum "
WTS/WTB points on oly" to make transfers easier. Iam not jelous iam just feel confused of this sytuation.
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 01:36:58 PM
guys.. so if some bp wk for example loses to se bd, and he rly had lagg, he'll get ban ? how u wanna check that? its not hard to play bad, say u re noob etc, dont be jelous starting stupid suggestions and play harder ;)
lol if some1 have lag, rly had lagg... what the freak?
we dont talk about that situation...
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 02:00:25 PM
read my whole post lol ;p
some ppl has friends, some doesnt, its like that on official, everywhere, u cant change it, start coorporating or forget about hero ;)
is different have friends and let them win to take points and different to pay those "friends" for it lol...
what a friendship! :P
ye start coorporating and lick asses for points lol... what a tard, nice way of thinking bro ...
nerf lethal and fix mana burn come on is ok if u put long reuse but with the same landing or low landing rate with the same reuse but nerf both? reuse and landing better take away the skill ?
and no zthrx just need a nerf not remove =)
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 05:34:38 PM
im saying if u will ban everyone with high points that will lose to someone with lower/less powerfull class on oly, how do u want to seperate the real loses and the fake ones? like its so hard to play retard, i can say im drunk everyday and share pts, wanna ban me?
u have a problem that someone pays for hero? why do u care? offer more if u dont like smth lol, make an oly char, donate, whatever just stop with stupid suggestions..
name me one reason why olympiad shouldnt be connected with economy
yea my way of thinking is stupid, u re licking gm to do smth with olympiad, wouldnt be easier to lick someone for points? :D
// i doubt anyone actually pays for points, its just a piece of ur imagination connecting everything with conspiracy cos of jelousy :P
if u are drunk gtfo dont log wtf are u talking about? so lets say u are drunk and u ll use l2walker
wow dont ban me gm i was drunk , sorry...
because whats the point to be hero if u pay on coins? meaning hero is at 80% the best char at his class
thats why called HERO otherwise we could call it NOOB... and ye i have problem with that ppl pay for weapons, for sets but lol if u pay even for this then that server is totally freaked...
whats the point of l2 at least... 80% of ppl want be hero (is the "dream") but say them pay for be good, pay for be hero pay for 1 pay for another...
lol maybe we have one of the the most "corrupted" servers at all...
and on other hand, u have the coins to pay and be hero some others dont have so thats the point : DONATE to be hero
mmm i have an idea Track must make Auction every month and who can pay more then this guy ll be hero month... what u think ?
I can just laugh at people who pay for points or hero status, same goes for the ones that transfer points and than spam hero chat all proudly that they are heroes lol... ::)
There is nothing you can do about it except balancing olympiads to the point where nobody will be able to reach more than 200-300 points so nobody will give away points for free or for coins. But this is probably impossible or needs alot of time to code. :)
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 07:34:10 PM
comparing l2w and oly? i dont get it, u re playing l2w while u re drunk? isnt l2w ment to play alone? u re setting it while u re drunk? i doubt even without alco and help u would be able to set it up :D even if im wrong at all these, i can say my net sucks, and ill lose to everyone who paid me / my friends, and lagg gone when i have xy ty ol, how u like that? xD
but ofcourse as for everything there is solution, u can make artificial intellegence that will calculate everyone s succes and if it comes to the mistake u'll get banned ^^
was just a example LOL , i mean that be drunk isnt a excuse
i told u already, i doubt anyone is PAYING to become hero.. pay coins for 1 month having % and valor, hero ud ? (i wouldnt talk if it was infinitve) if u re that rich to pay for such a stupid things, u can make the hero urself..
lol u play at this server nm x 30? if yes then u have no idea
most of the "fake-shared-paper(hi zongoko xD)-heroes" are friends of top oly farmers, and as u said its everything ok with that (to everyone who isnt, read first paragraph :P)
corrupted? do u know what that means? that someone with bigger/stronger powers (gm) is helping one side against the other, i cant see corruption in oly, u wanna say track is making heroes?:P
ppl are sharing on official, ppl are sharing on private, u cant change that, u can only enlarge conditions to farm pts (deleting dn sub on oly), of course there are always oly dominating classes (ee with nuke known from official etc).. but at least the relation will be closer
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 23, 2009, 04:56:05 PM
is different have friends and let them win to take points and different to pay those "friends" for it lol...
what a friendship! :P
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 23, 2009, 07:23:09 PM
I can just laugh at people who pay for points or hero status, same goes for the ones that transfer points and than spam hero chat all proudly that they are heroes lol... ::)
There is nothing you can do about it except balancing olympiads to the point where nobody will be able to reach more than 200-300 points so nobody will give away points for free or for coins. But this is probably impossible or needs alot of time to code. :)
that could work , who knows...
ps : i laught too tomek :P
Quote from: Kikolina on June 23, 2009, 08:20:20 PM
yes it was just an example, there are thousands of things that u can say that happend and nobody can check if they're true and u can continue sharing :)
no i dont, i am playing on infinity, and never ever anyone pmed me to buy hero status :D still i doubt this is happening on nightmare :)
and still i dont see a problem for a bought hero status, its ruining economy or what? :P what is the difference between a bought or friend shared hero status? i dont know why u have so much against it =)
well bro, i think u are from the guys who could bought hero status... all have to do with respect, selfrespect first of all and then the rest
if u feel good to do that its ok nvm, but i say that i dont like and i wish there was a solution to stop it....
and if u dont trust me ask arround, no reason to lie
i have eyes and see ::)
ps : welcome to nightmare 8)
are you writing a book? who's gonna read all that ;)
best would be to make oly fights like myBrute
u sign and watch the fight :]
no oly transfers and it's fair :>
Quote from: wildpussy on June 23, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
best would be to make oly fights like myBrute
u sign and watch the fight :]
no oly transfers and it's fair :>
no thanx, i want my char use all skills, not randoms :D
i logued 1 hour, saw 3 fights of agil vs th/pps, draks x1 emtee x2, 3 lethals.
Met astri (tk/pw) and emtee (th/pp) each one made a lethal.
I actually likely never log, and therefore don't know the classes owning oly atm but it does sound a lot like its daggers era, yet i bet i would farm them all on laymedown, yet it's funny that they cryed enough to nerf mana burn, even funnier that even mages losing 'by mana burn' cryed for their own nerf so they could (actually a fake hope) win such chars as mine, so eventually they cant even gather some pts and oly s filled by fighters, at least it was the timei logued.
about mohito and kiko, i would give a point to kiko, because the mere idea of checking free wins and loses is silly dude, maybe its easier for a farmer to get why, since as he said, we can lose some weak classes, it can even look like a free win sometime, while it's not
dont forget to add me for some chess games, way funnier than nm : ulysse_699@hotmail.com ;)
Quote from: our4n0s on June 24, 2009, 12:02:57 AM
i logued 1 hour, saw 3 fights of agil vs th/pps, draks x1 emtee x2, 3 lethals.
Met astri (tk/pw) and emtee (th/pp) each one made a lethal.
I actually likely never log, and therefore don't know the classes owning oly atm but it does sound a lot like its daggers era, yet i bet i would farm them all on laymedown, yet it's funny that they cryed enough to nerf mana burn, even funnier that even mages losing 'by mana burn' cryed for their own nerf so they could (actually a fake hope) win such chars as mine, so eventually they cant even gather some pts and oly s filled by fighters, at least it was the timei logued.
about mohito and kiko, i would give a point to kiko, because the mere idea of checking free wins and loses is silly dude, maybe its easier for a farmer to get why, since as he said, we can lose some weak classes, it can even look like a free win sometime, while it's not
dont forget to add me for some chess games, way funnier than nm : ulysse_699@hotmail.com ;)
ppl ge ttin confused, it was me on emtee and ... yae, lethal rate is pretty lol sometimes, i admit, too bad i dont get the lethals on the fight id like to get them :(
and about mana burn, i got 2k burned a couple of times as well, its nerfed, true, but not useless.
And from what i have seen so far lethals are quite often only from human daggers so i suppose critical blow makes all the work?
Quote from: iNs on June 24, 2009, 12:44:04 AM
ppl ge ttin confused, it was me on emtee and ... yae, lethal rate is pretty lol sometimes, i admit, too bad i dont get the lethals on the fight id like to get them :(
and about mana burn, i got 2k burned a couple of times as well, its nerfed, true, but not useless.
Nerf that too .
Quote from: SysTemHacK on June 24, 2009, 10:47:02 AM
Nerf that too .
Nah, thats pretty fine fo rnow, sometimes he owns u sometimes not, thats how it should be, mana burn is rather ok.
@lethals, yup, guess its cuz of crit blow.
Quote from: our4n0s on June 24, 2009, 12:02:57 AM
about mohito and kiko, i would give a point to kiko, because the mere idea of checking free wins and loses is silly dude, maybe its easier for a farmer to get why, since as he said, we can lose some weak classes, it can even look like a free win sometime, while it's not
a big L O L
so mr cool guy u r not transfering huh?
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 24, 2009, 12:51:57 PM
a big L O L
so mr cool guy u r not transfering huh?
first chill
second for info how many coin are you ready to spend for bp/es?
third i didn't play laymedown for 3 weeks, and i logued oly with alth like 4 hours this month so yes i am not transfering.
four :D i use to transfer yeah i used to transfer a lot.. not the point is it?
Basically i may be wrong, i was lazy to read the whole conversation between you and kiko and i just caught 2-3 posts and thought it was about yhou being for a punishment toward the guys transfering points, and him being against it, well :
all I am saying is you can't check free wins, what if i just disconect when i am against my friend? not killing the processus since gm can see that (even if he wouldn't bother) but just un plugging my router?
What if i really lag? beside it it is really easy to pretend a real lose, of course i couldn't do it with layme against some lame char like sr/sws but against ne/pp, pp/wk, pp/th you wouldn't see anyhthing, for instance to a th pp friend of mine i could spam some shits looking like mana burn but being trance or just block ww and let him spend his mana on blows, lethal will come and you wont notice that i actually gave the win.
Now maybe i just missunderstood the subject and therefore embarassed myself ;)
to systemhack, the only smart thing i saw from you is how to nerf sr/wl or pr/wl without nerfing he/wl, all the rest was shit, like mana burn being nerfed now lol.
Lethal should be nerfed, do we have to write topic on 100 pages?
The idea of winning the fight with one "lucky strike" ( it's not cigarette advert:p) is just stupid. Ofc it can be fun when there is mass pvp, everyone dies, get rezed, and there is alot of action, but it should NEVER happen on 1 on 1 fight when there is some PRIZE they fight for. Yes i'm talking about oly. Situation when u almost have the opponent on the ground and suddenly BOOM, he lethals u, and lets say u lose 100 points, it's just unacceptable.
Make lethal cutting hp down to 1k or something.
Quote from: cofo on June 24, 2009, 05:24:26 PM
Lethal should be nerfed, do we have to write topic on 100 pages?
The idea of winning the fight with one "lucky strike" ( it's not cigarette advert:p) is just stupid. Ofc it can be fun when there is mass pvp, everyone dies, get rezed, and there is alot of action, but it should NEVER happen on 1 on 1 fight when there is some PRIZE they fight for. Yes i'm talking about oly. Situation when u almost have the opponent on the ground and suddenly BOOM, he lethals u, and lets say u lose 100 points, it's just unacceptable.
Make lethal cutting hp down to 1k or something.
funny lethal you got 1k hp and you get next blow or backstab there is no need fixing it here ths can always make second blow after a lethal so you wont have a big difference in it if you do 1 k hp after lethal left. If he need to hit you 2 time normal or with a fast skill is almost the same. =)
Quote from: BassSultan^^ on June 24, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
funny lethal you got 1k hp and you get next blow or backstab there is no need fixing it here ths can always make second blow after a lethal so you wont have a big difference in it if you do 1 k hp after lethal left. If he need to hit you 2 time normal or with a fast skill is almost the same. =)
believe me, 1hp and 1K hp is not the same lol, fast reactin mage can heal himself up during that time.
Quote from: our4n0s on June 24, 2009, 01:17:19 PM
first chill
second for info how many coin are you ready to spend for bp/es?
third i didn't play laymedown for 3 weeks, and i logued oly with alth like 4 hours this month so yes i am not transfering.
four :D i use to transfer yeah i used to transfer a lot.. not the point is it?
Basically i may be wrong, i was lazy to read the whole conversation between you and kiko and i just caught 2-3 posts and thought it was about yhou being for a punishment toward the guys transfering points, and him being against it, well :
all I am saying is you can't check free wins, what if i just disconect when i am against my friend? not killing the processus since gm can see that (even if he wouldn't bother) but just un plugging my router?
What if i really lag? beside it it is really easy to pretend a real lose, of course i couldn't do it with layme against some lame char like sr/sws but against ne/pp, pp/wk, pp/th you wouldn't see anyhthing, for instance to a th pp friend of mine i could spam some shits looking like mana burn but being trance or just block ww and let him spend his mana on blows, lethal will come and you wont notice that i actually gave the win.
Now maybe i just missunderstood the subject and therefore embarassed myself ;)
to systemhack, the only smart thing i saw from you is how to nerf sr/wl or pr/wl without nerfing he/wl, all the rest was shit, like mana burn being nerfed now lol.
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i saw u give points at oly dunno if u was playing that char or no i just saw laymedown to surrender vs some coins ::)
Quote from: BassSultan^^ on June 24, 2009, 05:31:23 PM
funny lethal you got 1k hp and you get next blow or backstab there is no need fixing it here ths can always make second blow after a lethal so you wont have a big difference in it if you do 1 k hp after lethal left. If he need to hit you 2 time normal or with a fast skill is almost the same. =)
lol .. actually even if its down to 500 hp .. still fine for me . i wouldnt die .. dont worry abotu us .. we r happy with 1k hp , we dotn want more :D
FIX MANA BURN come on just put the same landing like b4 and this reuse is ok =)
Quote from: Diabolical on June 24, 2009, 06:41:44 PM
lol .. actually even if its down to 500 hp .. still fine for me . i wouldnt die .. dont worry abotu us .. we r happy with 1k hp , we dotn want more :D
because you shouldn't lose at all right? 8)
yes plz nerf lethal badly, so you wont lose anymore, and you wont leave us coz NM is dying bcoz of lethal :'(
wtb luck at sieges, for the past 3 sieges I did less than 5 lethals, no1 of them was 100% :'( :'( :'(
ps: I met astri at battleground and he didn't lethaled me also, so wtf? nerf lethal
well not everyone is reacting fast and you can get lagg to on our lagg freee server *** NAAAAAAAAT*** =)
and maybe you wont die so fast but anyway its cool how it is
LAWL THIS RECENT UPDATE ( MP/HP not restorin at the start of fight) is undeniably retarded freaking idea, congratulations track.
I lost over 100 points at today oly due to lethals - CAN U freakING CHANGE IT ? ITS NOT FAIR TO LOSE BY ONE HIT ???
Quote from: cofo on June 24, 2009, 11:59:38 PM
I lost over 100 points at today oly due to lethals - CAN U freakING CHANGE IT ? ITS NOT FAIR TO LOSE BY ONE HIT ???
sorry luv <3
Quote from: iNs on June 24, 2009, 11:55:29 PM
LAWL THIS RECENT UPDATE ( MP/HP not restorin at the start of fight) is undeniably retarded freaking idea, congratulations track.
what one ol/xx wc/xx can do at oly now?
Quote from: Gunit on June 25, 2009, 12:06:32 AM
what one ol/xx wc/xx can do at oly now?
basically, nothing
Quote from: zthrx on June 24, 2009, 08:14:20 PM
because you shouldn't lose at all right? 8)
yes plz nerf lethal badly, so you wont lose anymore, and you wont leave us coz NM is dying bcoz of lethal :'(
i told u before .. u whine too much at forums and u dont actually play or watch oly .
i lose easily to ( ask those classes in case u dont believe )
- sps / ee
- any pp / something .. whatever mage or fighter depends on how they buff themselves
- tyrants whatever ol or wc and it depends on how pro they r
i win the weak classes like anyone else does .
its not my problem that i do well in oly with my class and im still able to kill some of them.. if u r jealous or something u can create one and try to compete with me , if not then keep whining without knowledge as usual
Quote from: Gunit on June 25, 2009, 12:06:32 AM
what one ol/xx wc/xx can do at oly now?
zealot and bison on 30% and barrier .. its every tyrant dream lol :D
omg CRY TOPIC !!
give back mp on oly !! its fu** UP !! basicly everybody will leave server ......like me :)
U realise that...if u nerf dagers no1 will play it ? and 90% of all are mage/archers? Stop crying damn... if u want soo much that neft then let it be exclusif for oly but ont IG i cant lethal a shit not to mention other players... :/
Quote from: PersonTRUE1 on June 25, 2009, 01:09:35 AM
basicly everybody will leave server ......like me :)
that time is rly comming lol ::)
Quote from: Mohit0 on June 25, 2009, 05:13:17 AM
that time is rly comming lol ::)
it is already here
i agree that in oly it s kinda hard to beat a dagger user since the fight will end with lethal probably. but outside it s the only way for a dagger to kill another player. how a th/pp for example (full buffed) can kill an ol/ne full buffed, or maybe some necro/pp? the range of him is 900. dagger's 0, mage has a big advantage, until dagger gets near him the th/pp will have like 50% of his hp left. i got pp/th aw/se in dragon 15x. and ol/ne too and i know very well that daggers die before reach me out of oly. maybe lethal chance should have nerfed a little but not like Interlude. In interlude daggers had no chance.
Quote from: Diabolical on June 25, 2009, 12:15:40 AM
zealot and bison on 30% and barrier .. its every tyrant dream lol :D
not every
c4 was far better, for one no1 cared that much for oly (almost no profits anyway), and about classes that were owning (infinity:D):
th/pp, th/wk WITHOUT LETHAL!, sps/sws, SK/PS, sk/se, even pw/tk, necro/pp, necro/bishop, ee/es, then on end just before interlude i think they got to the point where a ty/de (some1 found out how to 30% hp in 10 seconds), sps/ee, and 1 bp/wk win all
Quote from: wildpussy on June 25, 2009, 11:15:03 AM
c4 was far better, for one no1 cared that much for oly (almost no profits anyway), and about classes that were owning (infinity:D):
th/pp, th/wk WITHOUT LETHAL!, sps/sws, SK/PS, sk/se, even pw/tk, necro/pp, necro/bishop, ee/es, then on end just before interlude i think they got to the point where a ty/de (some1 found out how to 30% hp in 10 seconds), sps/ee, and 1 bp/wk win all
In c4 there were lots of chars owning far more than in interlude and hellbound.The most powerfull were bp/necro, sps/ee, necro/pp, ty/de, pp/pal
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 25, 2009, 11:29:09 AM
In c4 there were lots of chars owning far more than in interlude and hellbound.The most powerfull were bp/necro, sps/ee, necro/pp, ty/de, pp/pal
yea pp/pal was a nice char ;)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 25, 2009, 11:29:09 AM
In c4 there were lots of chars owning far more than in interlude and hellbound.The most powerfull were bp/necro, sps/ee, necro/pp, ty/de, pp/pal
u mean DA / PP , pal / pp was pure crap in c4 .. it changed the other way arround in IL with angelic icon
Quote from: Diabolical on June 25, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
u mean DA / PP , pal / pp was pure crap in c4 .. it changed the other way arround in IL with angelic icon
Yea da/pp i forgot knocks char was a pp/da
Quote from: Diabolical on June 25, 2009, 04:25:30 PM
u mean DA / PP , pal / pp was pure crap in c4 .. it changed the other way arround in IL with angelic icon
nice sig. ;D
Quote from: wildpussy on June 25, 2009, 11:15:03 AM
c4 was far better, for one no1 cared that much for oly (almost no profits anyway), and about classes that were owning (infinity:D):
th/pp, th/wk WITHOUT LETHAL!, sps/sws, SK/PS, sk/se, even pw/tk, necro/pp, necro/bishop, ee/es, then on end just before interlude i think they got to the point where a ty/de (some1 found out how to 30% hp in 10 seconds), sps/ee, and 1 bp/wk win all
++++++++++!11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 for lifeeeeee
Quote from: Diabolical on June 26, 2009, 12:39:23 AM
YEAH , NERF LETHAL !
THATS EPIC SIGNATURE XD
NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRF
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETHALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
OMG
Quote from: wildpussy on June 25, 2009, 11:15:03 AM
c4 was far better, for one no1 cared that much for oly (almost no profits anyway), and about classes that were owning (infinity:D):
th/pp, th/wk WITHOUT LETHAL!, sps/sws, SK/PS, sk/se, even pw/tk, necro/pp, necro/bishop, ee/es, then on end just before interlude i think they got to the point where a ty/de (some1 found out how to 30% hp in 10 seconds), sps/ee, and 1 bp/wk win all
sure I wanna c4 also, AS + H, fullbuffs 1.9k atk speed, going into enemy @ mass pvp/ siege with Hero UD (if ur hero 8)) and raping every mage 2-4s each, before you got crited or debuffed 8) 8) 8)
now days fights are long... and long.... and if you are fullbuffed dagger tank vs another tank fight is even longer.....
Quote from: Diabolical on June 26, 2009, 12:39:23 AM
YEAH , NERF LETHAL !
Nice sig, did u make it yourself?
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,193913.0.html
xaxaxaxaxaxa
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on June 25, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
Yea da/pp i forgot knocks char was a pp/da
Knocks was th/da
Quote from: iakme on June 26, 2009, 06:56:46 PM
Knocks was th/da
he s speaking of knock's pp/da .... Sofaraway, isn't that obvious ?
Yep its obvious :)
im still gettin ownt my mana burn T_T
Quote from: kidicarus on June 26, 2009, 06:22:08 PM
Nice sig, did u make it yourself?
Rali did the graphic work .. ideas r mine
Quote from: our4n0s on June 26, 2009, 06:53:30 PM
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,193913.0.html
xaxaxaxaxaxa
COOOOL .. CRYING WORKS
Quote from: our4n0s on June 26, 2009, 07:12:54 PM
he s speaking of knock's pp/da .... Sofaraway, isn't that obvious ?
IT WAS MY PP/DA, i made it :) knock was using it cause i wasn't playing much. that char required imba skills for playing