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Title: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: romancenk on August 23, 2011, 09:32:32 AM
Hey track is it possible make it again Auto announcement of PvP kills ? ::)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: YaHoYaH on August 23, 2011, 10:34:57 AM
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Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Evolution on August 23, 2011, 10:40:05 AM
wan't get pvp announcements from bots ?  ::) like i see a lot tim's ppl with karmian etc get demigods  :D

but w/e +1 for that...  ::)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on August 23, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: romancenk on August 23, 2011, 09:32:32 AM
Hey track is it possible make it again Auto announcement of PvP kills ? ::)
Cant promise 100%, but for sure i can try.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: andreww on August 23, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
but plzzz keep it like now

not as in the last days of hb :P when u solo kill a party ftp u only gain +1 pvp point
that wasnt fun any more to pvp

:)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Zaled on August 23, 2011, 01:20:07 PM
bs andreww 1 pvp you got when you killed 1 person few times in less then 1 min. if you would kill 1 pt you would get at least +9 so fail.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: ylim on August 23, 2011, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: andreww on August 23, 2011, 12:33:19 PM
but plzzz keep it like now

not as in the last days of hb :P when u solo kill a party ftp u only gain +1 pvp point
that wasnt fun any more to pvp

:)

words.. words.. words... and nothing behind them...mr."imthethirdbestdagger"
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Luthor123 on August 23, 2011, 02:34:30 PM
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Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Evolution on August 24, 2011, 11:06:30 AM
Quote from: Zaled on August 23, 2011, 01:20:07 PM
bs andreww 1 pvp you got when you killed 1 person few times in less then 1 min. if you would kill 1 pt you would get at least +9 so fail.

owned brokie  ;D
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
Track btw, when will you boost archers a bit??

Like brokie himself admits, 1 fking dagger can kill a full party!!

And plz plz don't reply "gracia is daggers age", cause interlude was glad's age and you nerf them, etc... tbh i'm sick of being rolled by ppl i've killed all my live!

Cause some ppl are funny now, all their l2 life they fell b4 me, and now, just (and only) cause their class became strong they think they owned the right of calling me naab?? I would love to see them if this server was finaly balanced...

Nowadays you have, deflect arrow lvl 4 ++, song and dance against arrows, cop, etc...! Even vs mages you can protect your self (not against all at same time but you can)... what can you do vs daggers??

What can i do vs a dagger/tank?? even if i have a +50 vesper bow i will kiss the floor... either i kiss the floor or i kite him untill i log off cause there's noway i can kill'em....

I rly wouldn't nerf 'em, but archers need a little boost imo. Maybe old atak speed back for icarus and vesper bows....
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: windoo on August 26, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
Track btw, when will you boost archers a bit??

Like brokie himself admits, 1 fking dagger can kill a full party!!

And plz plz don't reply "gracia is daggers age", cause interlude was glad's age and you nerf them, etc... tbh i'm sick of being rolled by ppl i've killed all my live!

Cause some ppl are funny now, all their l2 life they fell b4 me, and now, just (and only) cause their class became strong they think they owned the right of calling me naab?? I would love to see them if this server was finaly balanced...

Nowadays you have, deflect arrow lvl 4 ++, song and dance against arrows, cop, etc...! Even vs mages you can protect your self (not against all at same time but you can)... what can you do vs daggers??

What can i do vs a dagger/tank?? even if i have a +50 vesper bow i will kiss the floor... either i kiss the floor or i kite him untill i log off cause there's noway i can kill'em....

I rly wouldn't nerf 'em, but archers need a little boost imo. Maybe old atak speed back for icarus and vesper bows....
Well, some bp got from archer 8k hit later 10k hit is it ... bad ?
He got all windstorm, CounterCritical, Eye Of Paagrio and chant of protection... so.. do they really need boost ?;p
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: andreww on August 26, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
Track btw, when will you boost archers a bit??

Like brokie himself admits, 1 fking dagger can kill a full party!!

And plz plz don't reply "gracia is daggers age", cause interlude was glad's age and you nerf them, etc... tbh i'm sick of being rolled by ppl i've killed all my live!

Cause some ppl are funny now, all their l2 life they fell b4 me, and now, just (and only) cause their class became strong they think they owned the right of calling me naab?? I would love to see them if this server was finaly balanced...

Nowadays you have, deflect arrow lvl 4 ++, song and dance against arrows, cop, etc...! Even vs mages you can protect your self (not against all at same time but you can)... what can you do vs daggers??

What can i do vs a dagger/tank?? even if i have a +50 vesper bow i will kiss the floor... either i kiss the floor or i kite him untill i log off cause there's noway i can kill'em....

I rly wouldn't nerf 'em, but archers need a little boost imo. Maybe old atak speed back for icarus and vesper bows....
for a archer more distance in Fg means more dammage, maybe start learn to kite ,when u come close :) u make 0 dammage

its  FG thing :P  

lets hope we wont start to  nerf a complete dagger class because i  am to pro :)  would be lame for 99% of the people and check top oly players are no dagger users

:)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Kastro on August 26, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
Quote from: windoo on August 26, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
Well, some bp got from archer 8k hit later 10k hit is it ... bad ?
He got all windstorm, CounterCritical, Eye Of Paagrio and chant of protection... so.. do they really need boost ?;p

but did he have it armor on him ????  evan nakend he wont get dmg  with full buff ressit vs archer  no chance  simple no chance at all just usually  spam  for some class to be nerfed and not get balance it  like allways heppand in  this years in pass
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Triuferkkk on August 26, 2011, 01:07:52 PM
Quote from: Kastro on August 26, 2011, 01:03:32 PM
but did he have it armor on him ????  evan nakend he wont get dmg  with full buff ressit vs archer  no chance  simple no chance at all just usually  spam  for some class to be nerfed and not get balance it  like allways heppand in  this years in pass
no atrb on armor vs full atrb on weapon, dynasty set has sh1ty pdef, could have debuff, could dont have shield buffs (shield def buff) you can find many answers on that xD
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Kastro on August 26, 2011, 01:12:57 PM
Quote from: Triuferkkk on August 26, 2011, 01:07:52 PM
no atrb on armor vs full atrb on weapon, dynasty set has sh1ty pdef, could have debuff, could dont have shield buffs (shield def buff) you can find many answers on that xD

debuffs  curses bla bla what`s mean is nto full buffed  what`s i was meaning  is on corect buffs is inposoble to get that exstrime dmg from archer   at last not   now when are add it 1 more buff vs fighter dmg  { counter critical } and i think was 1 more from OL if i`m not wrong must be naked to get that dmg
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Triuferkkk on August 26, 2011, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: Kastro on August 26, 2011, 01:12:57 PM


debuffs  curses bla bla what`s mean is nto full buffed  what`s i was meaning  is on corect buffs is inposoble to get that exstrime dmg from archer   at last not   now when are add it 1 more buff vs fighter dmg  { counter critical } and i think was 1 more from OL if i`m not wrong must be naked to get that dmg
its possible xd + no sense to replay on his post cuz its like "friend told me that he got such a hit" w/o any screen shot, what he had or not (buffs/atrb/ like you said armor xD)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: windoo on August 26, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
Well, some bp got from archer 8k hit later 10k hit is it ... bad ?
He got all windstorm, CounterCritical, Eye Of Paagrio and chant of protection... so.. do they really need boost ?;p

Well some bp got 30k dmg from some dagger! Is that enough of an answer for your bs response?? i can say some char lived happily ever after..bla bla bla

Andrew, don't you start giving me lessons on how to buff myself or on how to play this game!

Fact: Daggers are Far the most stronguest class in game now!

Fact: Archers got butt fuked gradually since IL.


We can't play with same skills as l2of, i took it would be clear by now, if not only for the reson that in l2of daggers get hit for 2-3k crit, so, despite hitting hard, they fall hard to, here, cause they are subbed as tanks (most of them) + all protection buffs, you hit them for 500k crit (the weaker ones) while they deal you 1.5k each hit (and i have real close to 4k p def constant), and on top of that each fking skill lands, backstab, lethal (despite only removing cp, this fking skill is landing again 5/1), shield bash, trik, switch.... all their skills land Goddamn it!


P.s: This is not a QQ about nerf daggers, it's a QQ about boost archers!!
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: windoo on August 26, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 02:58:49 PM
Well some bp got 30k dmg from some dagger! Is that enough of an answer for your bs response?? i can say some char lived happily ever after..bla bla bla

Andrew, don't you start giving me lessons on how to buff myself or on how to play this game!

Fact: Daggers are Far the most stronguest class in game now!

Fact: Archers got butt fuked gradually since IL.


We can't play with same skills as l2of, i took it would be clear by now, if not only for the reson that in l2of daggers get hit for 2-3k crit, so, despite hitting hard, they fall hard to, here, cause they are subbed as tanks (most of them) + all protection buffs, you hit them for 500k crit (the weaker ones) while they deal you 1.5k each hit (and i have real close to 4k p def constant), and on top of that each fking skill lands, backstab, lethal (despite only removing cp, this fking skill is landing again 5/1), shield bash, trik, switch.... all their skills land Goddamn it!


P.s: This is not a QQ about nerf daggers, it's a QQ about boost archers!!
In red you've answer ;D anyway in my personal opinion if th/pp is running in heavy vesper set there is something sick - anyway too many tanks so far on server what we can check even in loader:
oly classes:

Phoenix Knight  28.96%

Hell Knight  18.26%

- that two are for sure daggers or archers ;p cos .. mages are running on mage stat - so also we could add here some bp, nec, and some things... dunno mby im bugged but some of my skills dont land all time .. or even 50% time ;p but also im not tank with skills +30 ;< sadly
If you wanna something helpful and making your mood better if im not wrong on HF archers gettin boost :P
So wait for HF soon :P
Btw add to your fact - normal dagger which were made before is kinda glass canon cos most of classes which were made before update were
th/pp th/wk even th/wl pw/sws aw/bd... so so far they're not so hard ;P

About archer thing
Got vesper robe with 9lvl attri ;<
maybe he didnt got resist for this archer attri ... and maybe he got canceled few bufs by your lovely sps/sorc/pvp dagger, anyway in my opinion that hit was kinda ... too hard ;p
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: flamingAwe on August 26, 2011, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: windoo on August 26, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
In red you've answer ;D anyway in my personal opinion if th/pp is running in heavy vesper set there is something sick - anyway too many tanks so far on server what we can check even in loader:
oly classes:

Phoenix Knight  28.96%

Hell Knight  18.26%
-

it's oly classes for Dragon server
better check population for our server(not oly), you'd be supprized....

and QQ about boost archers is kinda funny xD i really should start to QQ for boost necros xD
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Weezer on August 26, 2011, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 02:58:49 PM

Let's stay some some facts then.

Fact 1: we cant compare this server to others, we have stacking subclasses so some combos will be more deadly than others

Fact 2: all classes have strong points and weak points, even on our server archers r not supposed to kill tankers easier like they kill other classes. Some classes r stronger against others.

F.E.: a skilled SPS on full buffs can kill a Tank/Dagger char, some debuffs + cancel and than hit and run and the SPS will win

Fact 3: not all daggers r OP, some combos and some players r not so hard to kill, since the update for GF done i had the opportunity to see some players on dagger classes, ofc Tank/Daggers r harder to kill (i play as archer), but this dont means ALL Tank/Daggers. Atm the harder to kill r Brokie, Alex and Puff. Puff is TH/WL but his damage is rly high compared to others and defense is good too if u compare to others TH/WL classes

Fact 4: For pvp and sieges u need buffs, even if all people reroll to Dagger/Tank (like people in past did to Tank/Archer) u will have a lack of support classes, even with bots with nice OE dances/songs they cant keep dances/songs and kite people for long time or stand in siege for a long time without going to bots, so if u cant kill the Dagger/Tanks look a way to find a weak point in their pt and start for that.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 03:48:01 PM
I do look forward for some kind of boost in archers cause the last nerf made us lose about 30% of our strenght, i'm talking about icarus turning slow... this stupid red recharge bar brings tears to my eyes... i know it's not just me!
Anyway think what you want, i rly don't wanna spin around here in flames, spam, etc. Like i said, atm you have x number of defenses vs arrows. Being a necro you have always the chance your oponent is not correctly buffed vs you, being an archer 0 chance, no1 runs around outta town without windstrom, (it's always available) cop, deflect arrow (at least lvl 2)...

I'm just saying, a good dagger/da or /hk is virtualy impossible to kill some even kill full pt's... and it's wrong imo...

Hell the other day a dagger with tallum and as+0 almost killed a friend of mine who was wearing my equip ic+f+14, rb jewels, vesper heavy +6... FAK!!



Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
so weez your point is??
tank/daggers are not op and archers are okay!! Okay i'm out of this discussion!
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Weezer on August 26, 2011, 04:04:02 PM
What i'm telling is that archers r not supposed to kill all classes.

Archers can kill Tank/Dagger and even PA/WL but it's much harder than kill other classes.

Archers r supposed to kill mages easier and they can kill it if they dont have Tank subclass and even with tank subclass r still possible to kill (some harder, some easier it all depends on buffs + equips).

Daggers can kill dagger/tank class, the same way mages can do it.

And a guy on AS can kill ur char ofc, as long as u dont kite him, remember archers r not just F1 chars, they have other skills, also u wont use just Monk/Ogree Tattoos, when u need to kite people u wont make it with Monk/Ogree. Daggers like on past dont need ubber equip to kill some people, but ofc with ubber equip things will be easier to then.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Weezer on August 26, 2011, 04:16:23 PM
I will be more especific here to explain my point:

Archers dont go near enemy to kill, they need range. Kite is a tatic not cause they r affraid to face enemy, but cause they need range to kill and survive, since their range r greater than others u prevent damage this way and u still keep making damage (to balance this a bit NCSoft made resists against bow in last chronicles we had).

Archers will kill mages faster, forget to try to kill the tanker as 1st target u wont make it if they have a good BP on their back, on mass pvp and sieges u will go for mages 1st not the tankers, and also dont just stand in 1 place and hit, take targets and keep running, u will prevent people to take ur target easily and stay far from their range.

Forget that archers will kill all easily, ofc all classes have chances to kill others, but some r higher and others r lower. U won't kill Tank easily but this dont means need to nerf tank or boost archer, also don't compare things about TOP geared chars, if u nerf based on how top players play the average one r rly freaked.

Now an example, lets take Krd0 (SPS/TK) and ANY Tank/Dagger. On full buffs Krd0 have more chances to win if dont land lethal than daggers, he will run from dagger and cancel + speed debuffs and after he will kill the dagger. But IF he decide to not cancel + debuff and simple attack he will die.

The fact is the same way we all play on full buffs and we all know that this is important to play on pvp or even farm people must understand that debuffs atm r also important to play.

Archers can't debuff or make insane hits like Backstab but they have better range and they can kite.

Daggers make insane hits, but they need to be close to enemy and hit on their back to be more effective, and to be more effective this also means they r easier to be debuffed cause they r in range for all debuffs when they try to kill enemies.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Kastro on August 26, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 03:50:25 PM
so weez your point is??
tank/daggers are not op and archers are okay!! Okay i'm out of this discussion!

his points was dont QQ  and say around that daggers are OP  coz is the only chronical where  daggers are {still } not nerfed to bone and they are  a it playble  but  let me explan u why they are making some dmg for now .... coz still noone did not start puthing attributs over  180  so the 80% of the dmg  of daggers now is coz of atttributs   2nd properly buffed  {cop,counter critical. songs , cov what els was there what`s deacrising  critical attack }  dagger make dmg no more then 1 k and nevar forgot that dagger skills cost alot in most of the mass pvp`s dagger is out of mana afther 1-2  and u still rolling with bow or mage dagger w/o mana is dead dagger so  leave in peace the dagger   they are not at all OP  if u have attributs  vs them  coz if 1 dagger hit 1k  on somone with attribut he hit u 2k w/o attributs so calculate if 1k dmg is OP and try with dagger to hit some tank how much dmg u will make  so simple for some classes dagger are owners but somwhere they stack badly

+ i dont know why is allways daggers daggers daggers  why noone say anything about mage i did not save  any cry about mage hit hard
coz now u dont take 20%  reduse on mage dmg by evry ressit buff vs that mage who attack u like before example { hydro ... ressit watter 20% aqua dance 20%  elemental song 20% elemental protection 20%  all this buffs now are pointless if u dont have water ressit over 250+ in ur arrmo and with this all buffs to get more  attributs  points coz now the ressit buffs is the only think they do give attributs} noone complane about mage`s that evry mage hit 1k+ with evan am+a+0 but must be dagger dagger dagger are OP why noone say i hit with archer very low on mage/tank he is verying  robe set and u hit less dmg on mage/tank the on archer/tank { if u hit archer /tank 800 on mage /tank u will hit 500} why noone say this .... patetic that why evryone want play dagger now and rerroll coz evryone was missing daggers class but like allwyas they was not playable and now they make dmg  and lets nerf dagger  zzzzzzzzz is boring only archers and mages so much boring 5-6 years  same story

P.S: donno who was dagger skills or curses and bluff and switch and trick land so offten  hehe only can say BIG JOKE when u remove target on enamy with bluff ,switch ,trick  be heppy like u get bingo dude all of use who play dagger we remove switch and trick from bars  is ussles spand it mana nothing els

QQ more  start spending coins and put energys and fix ur armors afther spick that somone is OP  not w8 better enchant rate and succses rate  wont heppand ..............
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
i'm pretty sure you didn't heard me saying to nerf anything!

All i said was that there are to much resists against arrows atm. A dagger/tank is virtualy impossible to kill. And maybe a boost on archers wouldn't be a bad idea, at least on atak speed!

Main thing is that now i'm getting killed vs ppl/chars who never killed me b4, and i'm not saying in 5 pvp's they win 3,4, i'm saying they kill me each time, basicaly i get killed or i have to kite and won't kill it!

Dagger's ofc are OP. Sry if you made 1 or is making 1. I'm just stating the truth bro.

Anyway, relax, it won't be b/c of my opinions that smthg will change, nvr did, nvr will, so chill and enjoy!
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: flamingAwe on August 26, 2011, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 09:27:50 PM

Main thing is that now i'm getting killed vs ppl/chars who never killed me b4, and i'm not saying in 5 pvp's they win 3,4, i'm saying they kill me each time, basicaly i get killed or i have to kite and won't kill it!

so get used to it, balance changes
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Weezer on August 26, 2011, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 26, 2011, 09:27:50 PM
i'm pretty sure you didn't heard me saying to nerf anything!
All i said was that there are to much resists against arrows atm. A dagger/tank is virtualy impossible to kill. And maybe a boost on archers wouldn't be a bad idea, at least on atak speed!
Main thing is that now i'm getting killed vs ppl/chars who never killed me b4, and i'm not saying in 5 pvp's they win 3,4, i'm saying they kill me each time, basicaly i get killed or i have to kite and won't kill it!
Dagger's ofc are OP. Sry if you made 1 or is making 1. I'm just stating the truth bro.
Anyway, relax, it won't be b/c of my opinions that smthg will change, nvr did, nvr will, so chill and enjoy!

I think that u dont understood what i said before, ALL CLASSES have chances to kill ALL CLASSES, ofc playing as archer u know that some classes r harder to kill than others, like Tank/Daggers u will have problems to kill then, but on ther other hand u r still able to kill other classes normally.

Playing as archer u can't stand in 1 place and just keep spamming F1 and believe that u gonna kill all, in some situations u can make it like use snipe in wall of castle and keep shooting, but in let's say 80% of situations u need to kite or at least change ur position to hit players, that's a fact ARCHERS MUST KITE or they will die, archers r not supposed to "tank" enemies and survive in the end especially daggers, ARCHERS MUST USE THEIR RANGE.

If u don't wanna use range dont play archer, go for close combat char. But most important don't try to kill tank/fighter as 1st target, go kill mages or other fighters before.

And for last, daggers r not OP but SOME daggers r OP, and this happens as a combination about class skills, players skills and equips.

As i said before in 1x1 pvp with Brokie or Alex (both SK/AW) against Krd0 (SPS/TK) without lethal (luck factor) i would bet that most of time Krd0 would win against then.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 27, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
weezer, bro, i play here for same time as you, since begining, and unlike you (who tried alrdy all classes), besides suports, i only trained 2 chars, a glad/pp and an archer/tank, so i can say i'm pretty confortable playing them. I going to use your ideas to prove my point if you don't mind. You said archers must start by killing other classes cause "tank" classes are to hard to kill, i agree, but besides suports, 90% server plays tank based class atm!

your saying archer has to use range to kill dagger and has to kite, i also agree, but if you don't have some kind of dash skill you'll hit and kite the first 3 arrows, after that dagger is upon you and it's drastic cp/hp fall each time you turn your back to him! You'r saying archers have no chance to kill tank/fighters, but isn't most of the archers here tank based to? They have no hcnace to kill'em cause of 1 single reason, huge resists against bow's vs no resists at all vs daggers!

IF you'r saying the best daggers here can't kill krdo, archers can? Explain plz, cause ranges are +/- the same, on top of that being tk krdo has more resists vs arrows!!!

You also said that daggers are not Op Some daggers are Op, yes ofc, only tank/daggers, but is there any other kind running around owning all?? And basicaly, even less archers are Op cause most of them are real easy to kill... To last 19min atm you must have vesper +6 and ic+f+14... last time i checked, this are kinda rare..still  :P... So if an sr/sws with those items almost lost vs a dagger/tank in tallum armor....imagine what a draco bow/dyna armor would stand for....


@flamingawe: I'm for a balanced server. Ofc i don't want a server with only arhcers in it... but atm you have a tank/dagger you rule...no mather how naab you are: switch, trick, stab, bluff, backstab bb noob...!! pfff... if you are th/hk than you're close to godliness.... sux imo!!

Basicaly what i'm trying to make you understand is that atm, archers are weak cause they face huge defense vs their arrows, they lost their atk speed in oposite to daggers who are strong as hell. And if full o/e equiped archers are weak... avg equiped archers are just lol's....
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: FeelmyBow on August 27, 2011, 01:48:35 PM
Nerf tankers! but ffs leave my damn TH//Warlord alone!
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Luthor123 on August 27, 2011, 01:51:46 PM
Quote from: andreww on August 26, 2011, 12:27:00 PM
for a archer more distance in Fg means more dammage, maybe start learn to kite ,when u come close :) u make 0 dammage

its  FG thing :P  

lets hope we wont start to  nerf a complete dagger class because i  am to dumbass :)  would be lame for 99% of the people and check top oly players are no dagger users

:)
Correction.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Defoe on August 27, 2011, 06:18:18 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 27, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
IMO it's sick when archer/tank able to kill 1vs1 dagger/tank (just think about this lil bit).
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 27, 2011, 11:08:13 AM
but atm you have a tank/dagger you rule...no mather how naab you are: switch, trick, stab, bluff, backstab bb noob...!! pfff... if you are th/hk than you're close to godliness.... sux imo!!
I have feeling that exactly coz of same reason you made archer/tank in past.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Weezer on August 27, 2011, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 27, 2011, 11:08:13 AM

Ok, so let me proove again u wrong with ur own arguments.

Not even 20% of server play as tank based char, and if u consider all tankers on server must remember that if it's a mage class it dont get the full bonus of all tank skills, ofc they r harder to kill by archers, but still able to kill.

Krd0 have 900 of range of his attacking skills and 600 of range on Cancel, ANY archer have at least 1k of range, so this means if u a bit smart he wont be able to cancel u and u can kill him just staying away from his range.

Like i said the problem isnt dagger/tank class, but SOME daggers, imo the best dagger players atm on server r Brokie, Alex and Puff, and Puff is a TH/WL not tanker, in past we had some many complains about some classes and we all knew that the problem wasnt 1 class, but some players r rly good playing their chars and they have equips for that, so if u nerf tanker/dagger just cause of Brokie and Alex what will happen with average players on server that play as tank/dagger?

I also remember when u started playing as tank/archer, like all people on Marvels did in that time, they all started playing archers cause was good to pvp and sieges, so it wasnt just cause u liked the char, cause u didnt had the same knowledge in that time about archers, u made cause was good to play and now that ur char cant kill all u complain about tank/dagger, or just dagger class w/e.

In my view of balances of classes on server there r still some things that need to be done, but nerf tank or dagger isnt the solution cause they r not soo OP, the diff is that they now r not nerfed like they was in previous chronicles. We need to adapt our chars for this new chronicle and re-learn how to make some things, but as always is easier to QQ than make tests.

Nothing personal.
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 28, 2011, 09:14:57 AM
It's so easy to talk... why don't you try and put actualy your skill in use and show me, invite me in pt, we go outta town and i want actualy to see you kill 1 tank/dagger even with your red bow! Just 1, it can even be m0rfeo, the naabest of them all!!
Puf, who i agree it's the stronguest dagger atm (at least who hit's the hardest), i don't have any problem with, cause there are way's to go around his dmg!

Wezz, dude, why don't you put on your reading glasses? They must be off, cause in my opinion we are talking the same here! Ofc not all daggers are Op, and, unlike archers, Defoe you had some archers who hited rly hard (glad/archer) and got nerfed, the rest, it was cause of their o/e equips, we have to agree that if you bust your ass to have bether equips than the others it is normal you should be stronger, cause the same classes with draco bow where real lolis to kill, here in this case it's not a mather of O/e items, it's a mather of the class! Dagger/Tank class, specialy Dagger/hk are OP. They shouldn't be nerfed though! Imo Archers should be boosted a bit to go around the latest loss of atk speed and all protection buffs who are around!

BTW:
Quote from: Defoe on August 27, 2011, 06:18:18 PM
I have feeling that exactly coz of same reason you made archer/tank in past.

Ofc i'm an eager sob who want's to be always on top and pwn all who move  :D....thats why i played glad/pp for +4 years ^^!  ;)


P.s: Edited some english tip0s. sry guys  :P
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Gonzal on August 29, 2011, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: mark_elesse on August 28, 2011, 11:20:33 PM
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Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: jygh on August 29, 2011, 02:16:15 AM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 28, 2011, 09:14:57 AM
It's so easy to talk... why don't you try and put actualy your skill in use and show me, invite me in pt, we go outta town and i want actualy to see you kill 1 tank/dagger even with your red bow! Just 1, it can even be m0rfeo, the naabest of them all!!
Puf, who i agree it's the stronguest dagger atm (at least who hit's the hardest), i don't have any problem with, cause there are way's to go around his dmg!

Wezz, dude, why don't you put on your reading glasses? They must be off, cause in my opinion we are talking the same here! Ofc not all daggers are Op, and, unlike archers, Defoe you had some archers who hited rly hard (glad/archer) and got nerfed, the rest, it was cause of their o/e equips, we have to agree that if you bust your ass to have bether equips than the others it is normal you should be stronger, cause the same classes with draco bow where real lolis to kill, here in this case it's not a mather of O/e items, it's a mather of the class! Dagger/Tank class, specialy Dagger/hk are OP. They shouldn't be nerfed though! Imo Archers should be boosted a bit to go around the latest loss of atk speed and all protection buffs who are around!

BTW:
Ofc i'm an eager sob who want's to be always on top and pwn all who move  :D....thats why i played glad/pp for +4 years ^^!  ;)


P.s: Edited some english tip0s. sry guys  :P
dude u cant kill everything and they r tank class and got deflect arrow not just to get em but to be strong vs archers . dont tell me u dont hit not tank classes for 1k .. cuz i got few k hits from u .
mage > tank    tank> archer   archer > mage  its basic l2 dude .   u just cant kill everything live with it
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: violetpl on August 29, 2011, 08:34:41 AM
who cry about tanks (pls nick in game:P)
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: garikUA on August 29, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 28, 2011, 09:14:57 AM
evil3 have more 450 resist vs my element im hit him at oly 150 crit and 200-300 from stabs
so just put atribute in ur armor and all will be ok
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Kastro on August 29, 2011, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: garikUA on August 29, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
evil3 have more 450 resist vs my element im hit him at oly 150 crit and 200-300 from stabs
so just put atribute in ur armor and all will be ok

is not only the attribut who protecting his ass is all the buffs who deacrese the critical dmg what`s the the power of dagger exaclly is  and if u dont know wich buffs are vs daggers i wont evan badow telling u but just dont say sh1ts that  there is no ressist vs daggers

2nd : i dont know by how many times heed tell that switch /trick , bluff not removing target  i will say at all  but ye remove 1 time per life so dont count thet skill what`s is 3 of the Most important skills on dagger + allready dagger`s got nerf on focus death and power + from start the nerf on bluff to not land  like all rest stun shock`s attacks are like for example archer`s stun on 50 con  land 90%  like i have 25 CON
and next time dont go alone vs dagger  coz is normali dagger to win ur ass  try play dagger in mass pvp when u get  cancels  coz u are in middle of all and cancel`s like 5-11 buffs   pls mister archer who want kill tank so easy tell me how that dagger should survive if evan not  make dmg vs nobady

QQ more nerf more archer  but if u think a bit and if u have 10% knowlege about this game u will say something about mage/tank what u dont hit them more then 1k what deflect arrow working on  robe set  and that 1k dmg u make if the mage/tank dont have ur attribut outher wise he will dance infront u and laugh in ur face and that mage hit u each hit 1k+ damn that is not dmg right u are all just add it and spam  just fu ck it again dagger to not be playable  start spending money on attributs afther spick what dmg daggers will hit u coz i will give u example i hit allex for 500  on his aw/sk and he hit me 600  dmg  by backstab  with focus death  on my TH/PP so fix ur armor  afther spick they hit u so hard not only open cry topics nerf this boost this ......
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 29, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: Kastro on August 29, 2011, 10:47:00 AM

It's so fking easy to say: "buff your self, fix your atribute, fix your skills..." freak you men, i play this stupid game long enough to recognize an OVER POWERED class when i see it! I understand you have your head so far up your daggers ass that you won't recognize even for a sec that what i'm saying is the truth! Never the less i never said anything about nerf! I just said archers should get boosted a lil considering the loss of atk speed and all resists/protection buffs atm!

And no, mr. knowitall, there are NO resists vs dagger! What you are talking about are resists vs critical dmg, etc... for general not specific like in the case of bows!

But hey, i don't give a flying fuk about it! It's not like i spend alot of time ig these days anyway. I'm not expecting you guys to say "you know what, you're right, my class is Op indeed!"

Have it your way! Time (if all stays like this), will show i'm telling the truth!

About mages/tanks, yes, imo they are Op to. Imo they should have some % p.def loss when they use rode but some how i manage to kill em from time to time! Not like daggers/tanks wich i killed 0 (even the noobest of 'em killes me) and saw few dizimate entire partys alrdy!

but hey. You know what? The sun is shining outside. Cya  :D
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Alex on August 29, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
funny how lame people always whine only about low/high damage totally ignoring other factors lol
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Kastro on August 29, 2011, 12:48:14 PM
Quote from: Javardsnegger on August 29, 2011, 12:08:42 PM
It's so fking easy to say: "buff your self, fix your atribute, fix your skills..." freak you men, i play this stupid game long enough to recognize an OVER POWERED class when i see it! I understand you have your head so far up your daggers ass that you won't recognize even for a sec that what i'm saying is the truth! Never the less i never said anything about nerf! I just said archers should get boosted a lil considering the loss of atk speed and all resists/protection buffs atm!

And no, mr. knowitall, there are NO resists vs dagger! What you are talking about are resists vs critical dmg, etc... for general not specific like in the case of bows!

But hey, i don't give a flying fuk about it! It's not like i spend alot of time ig these days anyway. I'm not expecting you guys to say "you know what, you're right, my class is Op indeed!"

Have it your way! Time (if all stays like this), will show i'm telling the truth!

About mages/tanks, yes, imo they are Op to. Imo they should have some % p.def loss when they use rode but some how i manage to kill em from time to time! Not like daggers/tanks wich i killed 0 (even the noobest of 'em killes me) and saw few dizimate entire partys alrdy!

but hey. You know what? The sun is shining outside. Cya  :D

read again on the skills  what are u takeing like a buffs  {if u buff ur self at all }  is saying deacresing critical dmg /critical chance { cop.counter critical and the buff from OL} add attribut on ur ass   and tell me  afther what dmg u get by any dagger on this server and  aslo if u fight vs somone who dont have deflect arrow dont have cop dont have counter attack dont have windstorm  evan if is tunk u will hit 3-4-5k   and like u say by ur self  u dont spend much time in game  so pls stop crying here  somone is OP somone is nerfed check all the resultats  from some testing afther spick what is OP what is nerfed  coz form all this crying from ppl who play like naked somone who spend moeny /coins time for his char need reroll evry restart on server  so pls do me a faver fix ur char  first  and afther tell me if evan noob dagger can kill u and dont make more lame post coz reading somthing from somone who play  long time  and is to lazy to work on his char looking only for  power what is not nesesry and nerf somone u cant kill coz ur char u have loging 1 time peer month and u want rape all   ..... want do that  simple donate dude like somone who dont want lose time  and want have fun only if not spear us and go beck in ur cave  play super mario
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: Javardsnegger on August 29, 2011, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: Kastro on August 29, 2011, 12:48:14 PM
spear us and go beck in ur cave  play super mario

Dude, if i spear you, i'll get arrested and will go to jail!
Title: Re: is it possible to make it again?
Post by: romancenk on September 20, 2011, 11:12:56 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on August 23, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
Cant promise 100%, but for sure i can try.
i forgot to say tnx 8)