GM named "Artur" removed cursed weapon from char name "Vestrivian" because "timer is bugged" , even if it wasn't. You can check by logs that he had 12 hours fair and square by retail like on lvl 10 before weapon disapear.
Cursed weapon now lasts maximum 1 hour and disappears sooner (15min) if you dont kill anyone within that time (15min).
This is to prevent a bit of abuse happening with them and some issues related to karma collecting.
It will be raised later (but no more 72h like before)
The conversation I had with this...so called "GM" is just pathetic. I demand an answer.
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Addtionaly,your GM skills left me with -66 PK points. Does it mean I can now pk 66 ppl ?
Quote from: TheSplichO on February 05, 2014, 01:25:28 AM
Preventing what? Do I really need to write what does the cursed weapon is and how does it work to an Head Admin of server?
Why you keep changing stuff and customizing it, like really what is next?
The solution is simple, until we fix it to work properly, retail setup is changed until further notice. Call it customisation or however you want, but we have some serious exploits with it and bugs (important for us) like Karma remaining after the sword is dropped.
So until then don't use the sword or simply adapt to new setup.
Quote from: TheSplichO on February 05, 2014, 01:25:28 AM
PK penalties such as experience point loss, item drops, karma increases, etc. will not be applicable to either side in PvP when a player wielding a cursed sword is involved.
We have a problem with this right now. Thats why is partially disabled.
We didnt said we keep ""custom"" forever, just the time to fix it so we dont have to fix characters constantly.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 01:29:14 AM
Addtionaly,your GM skills left me with -66 PK points. Does it mean I can now pk 66 ppl ?
The GM did nothing, you simply lost the sword automatically as out of the time limit (1h).
The amazing -66 PK is one of the problems why we partially disabled the demonic sword.
You are the living proof that is bugged, what else you want?
Let us fix it and it will be back working as should
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:30:21 AM
The solution is simple, until we fix it to work properly, retail setup is changed until further notice. Call it customisation or however you want, but we have some serious exploits with it and bugs (important for us) like Karma remaining after the sword is dropped.
So until then don't use the sword or simply adapt to new setup.
Answer what will happen with my remaining time. I feel scamed by staff of this server. You can't do that. It was my drop and my time invested in it. The timer worked corectly, the problem was karma. How do you expect ppl to play on server where nothing is sure ? Tommorow you will take my Majestic coz "its bugged"?
So you couldn't wait till timer ends and THAN make changes? Really good job guys, I came here to play on 10 years old server and I feel like it's governed by bunch of amateurs. No offence.
Quote from: =drake= on February 05, 2014, 01:33:01 AM
The GM did nothing, you simply lost the sword automatically as out of the time limit (1h).
The amazing -66 PK is one of the problems why we partially disabled the demonic sword.
You are proof that is bugged, what else you want?
Another lie from staff, Splicho droped his sword and he had his karma and PK count remaining. His karma got cleaned and as for PK points he got answered that "its penalty for using such weapon" dont lie to me.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 01:33:04 AM
Answer what will happen with my remaining time. I feel scamed by staff of this server. You can't do that. It was my drop and my time invested in it. The timer worked corectly, the problem was karma. How do you expect ppl to play on server where nothing is sure ? Tommorow you will take my Majestic coz "its bugged"?
We should let you with Karma then? You are not scammed , we just enabled temp_setup until is fixed properly. And dont compare fixed items with bugged things like demonic sword which you dont even posses .
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:35:09 AM
We should let you with Karma then? You are not scammed , we just enabled temp_setup until is fixed properly. And dont compare fixed items with bugged things like demonic sword which you dont even posses .
Answer my question - WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH MY REMAINING TIME WHEN SWORD WILL BE FIXED? u avoid this question like fire.
"Retail files" at its best. :3
Where are the staff asslickers? didn't come to the rescue yet?
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 01:35:53 AM
Answer my question - WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH MY REMAINING TIME WHEN SWORD WILL BE FIXED? u avoid this question like fire.
When its fixed, you can grab a sword again and have it full time without the fear you will remain full-karmed.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:37:39 AM
When its fixed, you can grab a sword again and have it full time without the fear you will remain full-karmed.
Pathetic answer, I got scamed by staff from my drop becouse I had it to long, people couldn't kill me and that's how I'm treated,that's how you steal my time. This sword doesnt drop on every corrner and as it was taken from my by GM I expect it 2 be returned when fixed.
Quote from: TheSplichO on February 05, 2014, 01:40:45 AM
What about my number of PK's or "my price is the "asshole mode""?
If I pk anyone I got up to 12k karma and drop like Christmas tree...
Doing that in db requires FULL reboot , just for you (downtime 15min), so it can be cleared when we are doing some of the fixes or updates np.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:37:39 AM
When its fixed, you can grab a sword again and have it full time without the fear you will remain full-karmed.
First you should ask me how much time I have remaining than turn it off after that time and clean my karma, fix the bug, all fine but u threat player like SH!T, I cant get any answer from pathetic GM Artur who can't even ban one bot and even Head Admin with such statments. Like how I supposed to play on server like this ? answer this question how Im supposed to play on server on which staff threats ppl like sh1t.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 01:45:20 AM
First you should ask me how much time I have remaining than turn it off after that time and clean my karma, fix the bug, all fine but u threat player like SH!T, I cant get any answer from pathetic GM Artur who can't even ban one bot and even Head Admin with such statments. Like how I supposed to play on server like this ? answer this question how Im supposed to play on server on which staff threats ppl like sh1t.
Is not like we can add you any extra time on old/new setup, thats why we didnt asked you. We prefer overalls stability instead and bugless server . As i said we are working on the fix and once karma issue is cleared , you will be able to use again demonic sword on the setup you got use to. No One treats you like you said, but always with respect and answers in short notice, but everything has its own limit. Your attitude right now isnt any better, but i can understand you and we apologize you if you felt insulted in any way.
The only reason demonics are changed is because running exploits and existing bugs, thats all. Spamming , cursing and flooding wont speed up the fixing , actually it will just delay it because we have to read and answer forum on already explained things.
Thank you
I will reconsider staying and investin my RL time on server which I can be scamed by GM from anything anytime. I will leave last post of so called GM Artur explanation.
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Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 01:53:44 AM
I will reconsider staying and investin my RL time on server which I can be scamed by GM from anything anytime. I will leave last post of so called GM Artur explanation.
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I am responsible for temp_fix, not him. He was just sending you the infos. Anyhow i explained you about time in earlier posts.
Thank you for understanding.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:56:10 AM
I am responsible for temp_fix, not him. He was just sending you the infos. Anyhow i explained you about time in earlier posts.
Thank you for understanding.
Don't thank me for understanding becouse I still can't understand your actions. This happend after 3th or 4th Coursed weapon on the server, thats first. Second thing, you had information about bug much earlier and you did nothing. Action taken without any previous notice. Thats the thing that pissed me of most. You didnt felt like PMing and informing me about what is going to happen. But ofc, ur STAFF OF THA SERVER. But I should expect that after Splicho told me about your RC conversation. Pathetic.
The only way of radoms (full with bsoes) to lvl up alone is dissabled lol :D
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 02:03:10 AM
Don't thank me for understanding becouse I still can't understand your actions. This happend after 3th or 4th Coursed weapon on the server, thats first. Second thing, you had information about bug much earlier and you did nothing. Action taken without any previous notice. Thats the thing that pissed me of most. You didnt felt like PMing and informing me about what is going to happen. But ofc, ur STAFF OF THA SERVER. But I should expect that after Splicho told me about your RC conversation. Pathetic.
1st of all, RC chat we had was unofficial and its rather lame from himself using that as an argument, but this explains more about him then me.
2nd We did this because , the bug itself is not an easy fix, it requires more time thats why current precautions were made. You didnt lose your item , you lose item thats generated by the server nothing more nothing less. Which by the way is bugged and exploit friendly.
3rd when Splitcho came on siege and killed 70 people alone in throne room, or when soloing raids for days, or when logging demonic sword for sieges , these things no one reported, why no one complained about these things to fix asap?
Im done with forum wars, i have stated important arguments why temp_fix applied , on the item thats not of major importance right now. On contrary , it causes serious bugs and exploits. Temp_fix will remain until its fixed and you just have to deal with it because none of the mentioned items are not yours nor they were in your constant possession.
Good Luck
Quote from: djvancho on February 05, 2014, 02:10:50 AM
The only way of radoms (full with bsoes) to lvl up alone is dissabled lol :D
First of all sh1thead, how I can be random if I have clan hall and bsoes, cry more. Secondly I dont need 2 play in zerg clan to have that, third I bet you were one of retards who couldnt kill me with your lol clan.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 02:11:00 AM
1st of all, RC chat we had was unofficial and its rather lame from himself using that as an argument, but this explains more about him then me.
2nd We did this because , the bug itself is not an easy fix, it requires more time thats why current precautions were made. You didnt lose your item , you lose item thats generated by the server nothing more nothing less. Which by the way is bugged and exploit friendly.
3rd when Splitcho came on siege and killed 70 people alone in throne room, or when soloing raids for days, or when logging demonic sword for sieges , these things no one reported, why no one complained about these things to fix asap?
Im done with forum wars, i have stated important arguments why temp_fix applied , on the item thats not of major importance right now. On contrary , it causes serious bugs and exploits. Temp_fix will remain until its fixed and you just have to deal with it because none of the mentioned items are not yours nor they were in your constant possession.
Good Luck
Edit: He didnt used any arguments, he just told me what did you said and that was rather pathetic but I wont bring it here so you wont lose rest of ur so called respect.
All the items are generated by the server. Im w8ing when you gonna scam some other ppl and lose the community. I didnt played l2 like 3 years, when I herd that dragon is opening new server I came here to play just one more time. That whan happens. No more fcking comments.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 02:18:44 AM
Edit: He didnt used any arguments, he just told me what did you said and that was rather pathetic but I wont bring it here so you wont lose rest of ur so called respect.
All the items are generated by the server. Im w8ing when you gonna scam some other ppl and lose the community. I didnt played l2 like 3 years, when I herd that dragon is opening new server I came here to play just one more time. That whan happens. No more fcking comments.
We didnt scammed you, you dont posses any rights on demonic sword, item is not created by you but by server. We decreased time, nothing more nothing less. I even gave you arguments for that, saying things just to make it look bad will cause this topic just to become locked one.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 02:23:03 AM
We didnt scammed you, you dont posses any rights on demonic sword, item is not created by you but by server. We decreased time, nothing more nothing less. I even gave you arguments for that, saying things just to make it look bad will cause this topic just to become locked one.
yeye no drop is crated by me but by the server. jeez. argument for decreased time:
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:37:39 AM
When its fixed, you can grab a sword again and have it full time without the fear you will remain full-karmed.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 01:50:07 AM
The only reason demonics are changed is because running exploits and existing bugs, thats all. Spamming , cursing and flooding wont speed up the fixing , actually it will just delay it because we have to read and answer forum on already explained things.
Thank you
and finaly
Quote from: =drake= on February 05, 2014, 01:22:36 AM
Cursed weapon now lasts maximum 1 hour and disappears sooner (15min) if you dont kill anyone within that time (15min).
This is to prevent a bit of abuse happening with them and some issues related to karma collecting.
It will be raised later (but no more 72h like before)
So its still bugged, you can still stay with max karma but it will last max 1h and disappear if you wont kill anyone. What ABUSE Drake was mentioning ? Is it about stage of the server and crying on PM that ppl can't kill demonic weapon? hm ? Whats the ABUSE? that my party can afford time and hunt down coursed weapon and than use CH as a hideout ? Or maybe the siege we mentioned ? Like come on. The issues related to karma collecting is just smoke screen for pain in the ass of some people, friends of yours ?
QQ more?
I rly feel sorry for ppl like u
Its not the end of the world dude u lost akamanah... But who say u cant have it again.. As hurt as u r for losing it and as dedicated as u r for keeping it Im sure u will get it again so cheer up will u?
Quote from: igi on February 05, 2014, 02:51:24 AM
QQ more?
I rly feel sorry for ppl like u
Its not the end of the world dude u lost akamanah... But who say u cant have it again.. As hurt as u r for losing it and as dedicated as u r for keeping it Im sure u will get it again so cheer up will u?
Its not about I that lost it, I was about to drop it tonight anyway, its all about how it happend. Im in the middle of mos and suddenly weapon dissapears. I pm online GM and he says "We shortened time just now" and he lies to me about some time bug than tells me do go complain to Drake. Drakes says its an ABUSE. Like WTF.
Sometimes things we dont like happen.. thats life
Spamming forum will only make u look bad and rude
Trust me u would hate it more when u would have drop the duals to your wc and be stuck with 9999 karma... Like everyone who used it before so u would be doing the same thing here on forum but for a different reason.(A reason which GMs r fixing now)
I've read the whole thing and there's only one thing I cannot comprehend, if anyone would be willing to explain me.
Demonic swords were bugged? Yes.
You were using an exploit? Yes.
Did you report an exploit? No.
Did you get banned for using such exploit? No.
Did GMs try to explain the situation with good intentions? Yes.
Did you completely freaking misinterpret what they were trying to say? Yes.
Why are we even here? Drake and Track explained what's going on. Noone scammed you out of anything, what they did is temporarily disabled the possibility of exploiting a broken item ingame, with their best intentions.
I dont know who you are, how entitled you feel to things you don't own, but what I'd recommend to you is to calm down a little and think about what happened. All I can see here is emotion and hatred.
If Track was as bad as you claim he is, he'd use this:
Quote1.1 Taking advantage of exploits will cause punishment (60 minutes of Jail to permanent if repeated)
to ban your ass ingame, and this:
Quote3.7 Respect other players, Administration and GMs.
to get rid of your cries from the forums.
Instead he's trying to explain the situation in a civilized manner to you.
Sorry that the weapon dissapeared in the middle of your MoS adventures, but honestly - I think of it as a minor inconvenience for you, and fixed demonic swords for the future.
/rant_off
Quote from: Simsung on February 05, 2014, 03:10:28 AM
I've read the whole thing and there's only one thing I cannot comprehend, if anyone would be willing to explain me.
Demonic swords were bugged? Yes. - BUGGED = when you drop the sword you are stuck with 9999 karma and all PK - and I didnt knew about that when i picked it up at first place
You were using an exploit? Yes. - what exploit ?? bug =/= exploit.
Did you report an exploit? No. - Bug about karma was reported 2 days ago
Did you get banned for using such exploit? No. I wasnt using any exploit.
Did GMs try to explain the situation with good intentions? Yes. [b]No GM Artur gave me false information. Drake explained that there is an ABUSE but didnt explained what is that abuse, it is not an exploit that coursed weapon is powerfull on lvl 10.[/b]
Did you completely freaking misinterpret what they were trying to say? Yes. Two GMs and Admin replyed with different answers. GM Artur - swords time is bugged - lie
GM Track - karma and pk points are bug, but when Splicho, previous owner of Zariche asked why his pK points werent del. he said something like "its price foe beeing asshole on siege" refering to goddard siege.
Drake - Its an Abuse - but no explanation what abuse
Learn abut l2 before posting and read whole post before you reply.
Wow you're so ignorant it's unbelievable. I'm out
I've read this crapload of text aswell, that guy is just a QQer, simple kid that was having funny using a OP weapon+exploiting it and now hes sad cause he was exping ahrd with it and now he has to kill mobs again slowly like everyone in the rest of the game. Thats what you get when you are a only son, you get too worried about beeing the center of the attentions and be always superior to every1 else xD anyways, GMs did the right thing, if it happened to me, I would also be a bit upset, but its fora better future .
:/
Quote from: Simsung on February 05, 2014, 03:20:37 AM
Wow you're so ignorant it's unbelievable. I'm out
First of all I didnt wanted to make this post at first place. So called GM Artur forced me to complain to Drake. There are many ifnorants here but I asure you that is not me.
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any more questions ? I want normal answer. What did Drake ment by ABUSE, as fact this seams to be the reason of all those actions.
Dont drown in your tears xD
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 03:29:29 AM
First of all I didnt wanted to make this post at first place. So called GM Artur forced me to complain to Drake. There are many ifnorants here but I asure you that is not me.
any more questions ? I want normal answer. What did Drake ment by ABUSE, as fact this seams to be the reason of all those actions.
If he said abuse he didnt necesarily mean that u r absuing it, but its possible the sword to be used for some kind of exploit and needs to be temporarily removed from the game or in this case its time reduced...
The staff never said you was abusing the sword, else you would have ended up banned, but we are aware of a possible (known) abuse and to prevent it we disabled/crippled the sword until further notice (that is quite soon).
In addition there is the pk/karma bug that doesnt make the choice to keep them any easier.
Kind regards
please man get a life 8)
Quote from: Falatko on February 05, 2014, 07:50:28 AM
Oh my God just got new swimsuit this morning gonna test it bkz looks like forum is full of splicho and some random tears :D YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH QQ moar guys
PS: so they are qqing bkz they could non stop farm bosses and sh1ts and gm just like removed swords ? :D wow made my day again QQ moar guys
if you really want to waste 4h of you life for rb who drop nothing you are official my new Hero (Hero of Retards)
Quote from: =drake= on February 05, 2014, 03:58:03 AM
The staff never said you was abusing the sword, else you would have ended up banned, but we are aware of a possible (known) abuse and to prevent it we disabled/crippled the sword until further notice (that is quite soon).
In addition there is the pk/karma bug that doesnt make the choice to keep them any easier.
Kind regards
This Mr. Drake.
Quote from: =drake= on February 05, 2014, 01:22:36 AM
This is to prevent a bit of abuse happening with them and some issues related to karma collecting.
It will be raised later (but no more 72h like before)
I kindly ask for an answer, what is this possible abuse?
Aditionaly: After GMs took away my sword I went FoD and made 2% and lvled up, went Giran and couldnt get new dyes so I made restart. When I loged I was in middle of mos with 99999 karma, 4x PKs and -2%. If not bsoe I would lost all my EQ.
Second kind question when my karma will be removed and PK fixed ?
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 08:09:49 AM
I kindly ask for an answer, what is this possible abuse?
Being an active exploit/bug cant be disclosed to the public, sorry.
Quote
Aditionaly: After GMs took away my sword I went FoD and made 2% and lvled up, went Giran and couldnt get new dyes so I made restart. When I loged I was in middle of mos with 99999 karma and 4x PKs and -2%. If not bsoe I would lost all my EQ.
Second kind question when my karma will be removed and PK fixed ?
We told you the whole thread that is bugged...
This is a much valid reason to disable it, dont you think?
W/e just lock the topic and throw it to spam.
Quote from: Falatko on February 05, 2014, 09:07:58 AM
sorry son i am not farming rbs i am solo player i dont give a fvck about RBs :D u just selfowned yourself np keep going mr retard :D
Yea hard selfowned, if you dont know nothing about mechanic's of cursed weapon dont talk here mr TheyarekilingrbpewpewpewQQbanthem_heroofretard's
Best Regards
Quote from: Falatko on February 05, 2014, 09:24:26 AM
One thing for people that QQ so much about this weapons...
So many of you are new players and they did not feel ERA of TY / DE on Dragon x15 especially (i played x15 no idea shadow or nightmare server) but when TY DE is able to solo any RB +Baium included with BD SE or WC BD or PP BD that time = total sh1t, this is Party game and if you want to keep farmign RBs with 2 Fvcking Cursed Weapons please go back to 5000x BR
Best Regards
Sad story but comparing L2Off feature to custom Dragon Network feature like stacksub only proves that you are retarded.
I didn't played on x15, I played on infinity.
you had that sword for more than 2 days. wtf do you want more?????
i really cant get it.
Cursed weapons are not vital part of the game. Why such a drama? There are many bug reports about the settings of cursed weapons. U could predict that admins will make some changes. Splicho had zariche for like 4 days ? and Vestrevian for 3. What u want more?
My oppinion is that GM should disable the cursed weapons until they fix the bugs. Since zariche is not vital part of the game there wont be any problem for players. Nobody (except splicho clan perhaps) need it to farm or level his character so we can play w/o it. No zariche no problems no drama everyone is happy. :)
all i see is you crying in every damn server you played. you knew it's bugged, gm said they have to fix it, yet you cry every freaking time. boy you're so annoying.
about c4, lot of time has passed so i might be wrong about it (as i said in my post "if i remember correctly")
but still, you really whine too much.
edit:
just for the records
Abilities and Limitations
PK penalties such as experience point loss, item drops, karma increases, etc. will not be applicable to either side in PvP when a player wielding a cursed sword is involved.
A Cursed Sword holder cannot attack players that are under level 20. In the same respect, players must be level 20 or higher to attack the character wielding the Zariche or Akamanah.
Either sword causes its wielder to recognize everyone involved in a siege war as enemies.
When a Cursed Sword holder strikes a player (excluding magic and physical skills), including a Hero, the CP of that player is instantly reduced to 0. When a Hero strikes (excluding magic and physical skills) a character wielding one of the cursed swords, the CP of that character is instantly reduced to 0. When a player that carries Zariche and a player that carries Akamanah attack one another, the recipient’s CP is reduced to 0. The same rules also apply in the opposite instance.
A player wielding either sword cannot join a party with other players. If a player acquires either sword while in a party, that character is automatically withdrawn from that party. The player wielding Zariche or Akamanah also cannot use the party matching system or command channel.
If a player that controls Akamanah acquires Zariche, the newly-acquired Zariche automatically disappears, and the equipped Akamanah's level increases by 1. The same rules also apply in the opposite instance.
The player wielding either sword cannot give or accept buffs and may not be healed or heal other players. However, he or she may use buffs and heal themselves. The player wielding either sword may summon a pet/servitor, but may not ride a pet.
The player wielding either sword cannot participate in the Olympiad. When an Olympiad Hero acquires Zariche or Akamanah, skills designed for Heroes may not be used. The player can use these skills again once the sword has disappeared.
They could just wait till there is no sword owner and "fix" them after without interfering in the gameplay.
I wonder if they would do the same if some randoms/other clan had the swords. ::)
Quote from: naTiexu on February 05, 2014, 01:36:11 PM
My oppinion is that GM should disable the cursed weapons until they fix the bugs. Since zariche is not vital part of the game there wont be any problem for players. Nobody (except splicho clan perhaps) need it to farm or level his character so we can play w/o it. No zariche no problems no drama everyone is happy. :)
Well what I see here is that you just cant handle that some1 can use advantage which is given by the cursed weapons. The fact is that if I would tranfer this Akamanah to my WC (50% chance on drop) I would make him COV in one or max two days and as for my party its pure advantage given by the game. Don't even bullsh1t that you would rather farm your WC 6-7 days to get lvl 78-79 than 2-3 days. Ofc I can farm without the sword I made 7x lvl without it on my BD but it doesnt mean I should not use advantage given by the game. Its not easy to get this sword when its in proper hands - and that is the drama. I BET everything that many ppl QQed on GMs PM that im farming with the sword and they cant kill me. Lineage is a competitive game and I would like to see you throwing away Zariche or Akamanah and by that boost for your clan/party in adena, drops, possibilities.
As SplichO mentioned Its not about that I lost the sword, I was about to swap it anyway (with 50% chance) so I was ready for failiour. Problem is with staff of this server, instead of explaining the situation with me by damn PM (I was online when that happend) they forced me to make this topic. TrackZero didnt felt like PMing me with simple information, same as given here at forum - I wouldnt evend drama about that. Instead of that the changed rules of the game in middle of me using the sword. I was forced to bsoe, after I reloged I had 99999 karma and all the PK points and DESPITE bsoe and RR, I was back In mos in the middle of mobs with all the karma, If I would not have next bsoe I would drop my whole MJ heavy set. How fcking cool is that ? do you think its good reason to drama ? or staff will split on ur face and u will still smile.
Hello Vestrivian,
Server is online less than 1 month and some fixes need to be done, even if its sometimes unfair for players. First we fixed ss lags, then spoil issue, added monsterfinder and players stats on site, fixed ddos issue, added protection system, GoE pvp area and few other features so it wasnt possible to fix all at once. Now time has came for demonic swords as we are looking for fair compromise for this weapons, so thats why we disabled it + made temporary changes. I understand your point, but it doesnt allow you to call me pathetic or liar. You cant insult GMs, especially if they dont say any improper words toward you. If you feel, you have wasted time here, i dont force you to play here. We can talk after you calm down, but keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles.
Ì understand ur will to exploit some advantage over ur rivals but since there are so many problems and reports about bugged cursed weapons u could expect that there will be some problems with it. Going offline in the midle of MOS around mobs is ur own mistake and i notice that u was offline in MOS u cant say other...
Quote from: ^Artur^ on February 05, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hello Vestrivian,
Server is online less than 1 month and some fixes need to be done, even if its sometimes unfair for players. First we fixed ss lags, then spoil issue, added monsterfinder and players stats on site, fixed ddos issue, added protection system, GoE pvp area and few other features so it wasnt possible to fix all at once. Now time has came for demonic swords as we are looking for fair compromise for this weapons, so thats why we disabled it + made temporary changes. I understand your point, but it doesnt allow you to call me pathetic or liar. You cant insult GMs, especially if they dont say any improper words toward you. If you feel, you have wasted time here, i dont force you to play here. We can talk after you calm down, but keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles.
And heres inspector Clouseau, how does the bot hunting go officer?
Quote from: ^Artur^ on February 05, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hello Vestrivian
Im done speaking with you as you were not aware of the situation, moreover you tryed to convince me it is some kind of a bug with weapon timer reseting upon kill, and as timer can be seen each time you log with the weapon the "bug" mentionet was not present. Call this as u like. You were the only GM online at this time and all you said is posted in this topic. I wont comment on this conversation anymore.
Quote from: naTiexu on February 05, 2014, 02:29:39 PM
Ì understand ur will to exploit some advantage over ur rivals but since there are so many problems and reports about bugged cursed weapons u could expect that there will be some problems with it. Going offline in the midle of MOS around mobs is ur own mistake and i notice that u was offline in MOS u cant say other...
You don't seam to read what I have posted. Specialy for you with usage of easy language.
1. My weapon dissapears in the middle of mobs - I dont have any karma and PK count -66.
2. I do Blessed Scroll Of Escape Clan Hall.
3. I go to Giran to change dyes.
4. Upon drawing dye error message says "Please try again later".
5. I restart my game.
6. My character logs in the middle of mos with 99999 karma and 43 PKs.
7. I use bsoe.
Do you understand what happend here?
I dont want this topic to be endless so its my last post summarizing what I think of this situation.
All what community of this server sees is that I make DRAMA about losing the sword. I wanted to show how staff of this server threated the player in this particular case. I was online and no previous information was given what is going to happen, when I want to solve the issue with the Online GM he threats me like and idiot with some information about non existing bug and later says that he is not aware of the case coz its TrackZero bussines. Sends me to forum. I make this topic and instead of community support I get random foggy info about abuses, bugs exploits and flame about QQing.
All this would not happen if Mr. Track would PM at first place and explain whats the situation, simple as that - but I understand - Im JUST one player vs. whole Staff and other ppl who behave like mad drama chasers. Im sure that we could solve this on PM without any extra issues, topics, drama. As a player of this server I demand respect as u expect me to follow rules. I'm deeply disappointed about other ppl who saw only DRAMA AND QQ about lost sword but not how case was handled.
Thats all from me and, no I wont quit the server, I played on Dragon many years ago and I enjoy my current party. I hope that staff members will pull out the conclusions from this topic.
Cheers.
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Quote from: Falatko on February 05, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
QQQQQQQQ....take him wepon gm he farms ! omagad I cant farm like him and I cant keel him QQQQQ tak it QQQ i cant have it QQQQQ I will never use that wepon to farm but just for fun QQQQ.
Thats what I see in your post :P.
Lock this topic already.
WTF is that, GM taking cursed weapons without any info before, WHY you didnt take it before sieges?! whats next GMs? MAYBE give some info about future changes and dont do nothing without people knowing? maybe you gonna give back this cursed weapons to OTHER ppl? JUST DAFUQ
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 02:42:51 PM
1. My weapon dissapears in the middle of mobs - I dont have any karma and PK count -66.
2. I do Blessed Scroll Of Escape Clan Hall.
3. I go to Giran to change dyes.
4. Upon drawing dye error message says "Please try again later".
5. I restart my game.
6. My character logs in the middle of mos with 99999 karma and 43 PKs.
7. I use bsoe.
Do you understand what happend here?
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
All what community of this server sees is that I make DRAMA about losing the sword. I wanted to show how staff of this server threated the player in this particular case. I was online and no previous information was given what is going to happen, when I want to solve the issue with the Online GM he threats me like and idiot with some information about non existing bug and later says that he is not aware of the case coz its TrackZero bussines. Sends me to forum. I make this topic and instead of community support I get random foggy info about abuses, bugs exploits and flame about QQing.
Cheers.
Touché
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
They could just wait till there is no sword owner and "fix" them after without interfering in the gameplay.
I wonder if they would do the same if some randoms/other clan had the swords. ::)
Yes, GMs hate your clan... Im sure when they log in and look at you they see fists next to your titles...
Quote from: igi on February 05, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
Yes, GMs hate your clan... Im sure when they log in and look at you they see fists next to your titles...
I suppose ill let Artur answer this, if he perma checking my pt or not. :3
Now now, don't mind me, ill let u continue ur asslicking. ::)
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 06:49:44 PM
I suppose ill let Artur answer this, if he perma checking my pt or not. :3
Now now, don't mind me, ill let u continue ur asslicking. ::)
Yes I suck up to GMs and they help me ingame with lots of adenas and items ;)
From your posts I can deduct that u r still a kid and look at GMs here like the authority u need to be against (u know kinda like your teachers at school) and every kid that doesnt hate them or question their authority is sucking up to them for good grades... Well this is not school and u should understand that GMs r not your enemies or some1 u should naturally disagree with...
They made this server for u and they fix bugs for u, and they made it all for free so u could try and give them a chance and support or at least try to refrain from flaming and insulting them (or anyone else on this forum)
Yes they probably should have informed Vestrivian that they r planing to shorten his time with his akamanah but u could understand that things like this can be missed or overlooked considering the amount of work they have with all the unexpected problems they suffered like DDoS attack etc...
p.s. Im sure that all of u or at least most of u r good decent guys that dont have words like idiot retard moron freak etc in your spoken vocabulary (especially when u speak with srangers) and here on forums and cyber communities u grow balls cuz your real personalities and the real yous r well hidden but u should know that no1 is afraid of u and they will most probably curse u back and that flame war is never gonna end but also its not gonna fix your problems.
Quote from: igi on February 05, 2014, 07:12:51 PM
Yes I suck up to GMs and they help me ingame with lots of adenas and items ;)
From your posts I can deduct that u r still a kid and look at GMs here like the authority u need to be against (u know kinda like your teachers at school) and every kid that doesnt hate them or question their authority is sucking up to them for good grades... Well this is not school and u should understand that GMs r not your enemies or some1 u should naturally disagree with...
They made this server for u and they fix bugs for u, and they made it all for free so u could try and give them a chance and support or at least try to refrain from flaming and insulting them (or anyone else on this forum)
Yes they probably should have informed Vestrivian that they r planing to shorten his time with his akamanah but u could understand that things like this can be missed or overlooked considering the amount of work they have with all the unexpected problems they suffered like DDoS attack etc...
p.s. Im sure that all of u or at least most of u r good decent guys that dont have words like idiot retard moron freak etc in your spoken vocabulary (especially when u speak with srangers) and here on forums and cyber communities u grow balls cuz your real personalities and the real yous r well hidden but u should know that no1 is afraid of u and they will most probably curse u back and that flame war is never gonna end but also its not gonna fix your problems.
Well, what can i say? You must become a psychologist.
You see its hard to go speak to someone IRL like that when ur 16 & 5 feet tall.
Not to mention that my classmates dislike me and my parents abuse me.
So doc, got any solution to my problem? I wanna become a fine man when i become older. :'(
Quote from: ^Artur^ on February 05, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hello Vestrivian,
Server is online less than 1 month and some fixes need to be done, even if its sometimes unfair for players. First we fixed ss lags, then spoil issue, added monsterfinder and players stats on site, fixed ddos issue, added protection system, GoE pvp area and few other features so it wasnt possible to fix all at once. Now time has came for demonic swords as we are looking for fair compromise for this weapons, so thats why we disabled it + made temporary changes. I understand your point, but it doesnt allow you to call me pathetic or liar. You cant insult GMs, especially if they dont say any improper words toward you. If you feel, you have wasted time here, i dont force you to play here. We can talk after you calm down, but keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles.
Why don't you just say that we are playing open beta since start ?
Quote from: Saintly on February 05, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
Well, what can i say? You must become a psychologist.
You see its hard to go speak to someone IRL like that when ur 16 & 5 feet tall.
Not to mention that my classmates dislike me and my parents abuse me.
So doc, got any solution to my problem? I wanna become a fine man when i become older. :'(
Yes, find a high place... and jump.
Guys, this topic shouldn't become drama topic or anything like that. I made the topic because I was curious how was it possible for curse weapon to disappear without any info from GMs or anyone. I got my answer, and I think we can close the topic.
Quote from: GenghisKhan on February 05, 2014, 07:39:52 PM
Guys, this topic shouldn't become drama topic or anything like that. I made the topic because I was curious how was it possible for curse weapon to disappear without any info from GMs or anyone. I got my answer, and I think we can close the topic.
+1
Quote from: GenghisKhan on February 05, 2014, 07:39:52 PM
Guys, this topic shouldn't become drama topic or anything like that. I made the topic because I was curious how was it possible for curse weapon to disappear without any info from GMs or anyone. I got my answer, and I think we can close the topic.
Amen.
The problem was the asslickers who couldn't let anyone express his opinion.
Quote from: igi on February 05, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
Yes, find a high place... and jump.
Tnx doc, it might cure my cancer also, u know being bald and all sucks, if this doesn't work either i can still become a Buddhist i suppose.
Quote from: igi on February 05, 2014, 06:42:45 PM
None of this happens when u lose the weapon in normal way, this dear QQer is result of GMs action
Mr so called GM Artur
Quote from: ^Artur^ on February 05, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
Touché
Can we lock this topic before I will lose rest of respect for this staff member ? or u wanna play more ?
Quote from: ^Artur^ on February 05, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
Hello Vestrivian,
Server is online less than 1 month and some fixes need to be done, even if its sometimes unfair for players. First we fixed ss lags, then spoil issue, added monsterfinder and players stats on site, fixed ddos issue, added protection system, GoE pvp area and few other features so it wasnt possible to fix all at once. Now time has came for demonic swords as we are looking for fair compromise for this weapons, so thats why we disabled it + made temporary changes. I understand your point, but it doesnt allow you to call me pathetic or liar. You cant insult GMs, especially if they dont say any improper words toward you. If you feel, you have wasted time here, i dont force you to play here. We can talk after you calm down, but keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles.
Few things:
1. If there is so many bugs why started server before fixing them ? Oh I know, GF Java server files got some collision.
2. Before you change something that can be important please at least warn about it at announcements ingame (like: UPDATE IS COMMING SEE CHANGELOG ON FORUM) - It will show you respect players that came back to new server of dragon-network. Remember: players community is what you exist for as GM. Respect players cause they are reason of your server building. You dont know how to host dont do it and dont waste our time. From 10yo experience of dragon-network we expect sth more than bugged crap.
3. Have you ever played L2 Interlude ? I mean real playing not geting 3rd class and the end of story. I mean getting hero, castles etc. I see you read stats from some weird sites, talking some unreal things (like: 7S Down should be only allowed for clan with castle... - man, it boost clan with castle but why it should limit contirbutors to castle owners only lol wtf ... ), crest engraving 180 sec in Interlude ( WTF ? Another L2J copy paste customization from GF)
4. You say "keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles" - Making you angry = troubles ? :D Nice. How angry would you feel if someone will shit on your work and lie in your face. You shouldn't be a GM, you seem to have no experience about L2 gaming, either about what should lead to troubles. I could insult you cause IN MY OPINION you are just a not very smart man with GM status... So sad Drake/TrackZero chosen you.
About bug fixing - ok its fine, then the one who has some loss due to that bug should get back his demonic stuff after bug fixed.
Opinion of server depends on you GMs. Dont destroy dragon-network name. I want to be proud of having top char at server from dragon network, not annoyed of stupid ideas of some nonexperienced ppl. You build L2 Interlude Chronicle and PPL who play here came for it, not for L2J GF. I understand that engine is engine. But even if you use some crap to build server try to build it in the right direction wich is INTERLUDE Chronicle. (I know it is hard to get info about exact stats of everything at interlude but it is your problem - you decided to build L2 Interlude server).
Kind regards,
Paul
+1
Quote from: mibcadet on February 05, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
Few things:
1. If there is so many bugs why started server before fixing them ? Oh I know, GF Java server files got some collision.
2. Before you change something that can be important please at least warn about it at announcements ingame (like: UPDATE IS COMMING SEE CHANGELOG ON FORUM) - It will show you respect players that came back to new server of dragon-network. Remember: players community is what you exist for as GM. Respect players cause they are reason of your server building. You dont know how to host dont do it and dont waste our time. From 10yo experience of dragon-network we expect sth more than bugged crap.
3. Have you ever played L2 Interlude ? I mean real playing not geting 3rd class and the end of story. I mean getting hero, castles etc. I see you read stats from some weird sites, talking some unreal things (like: 7S Down should be only allowed for clan with castle... - man, it boost clan with castle but why it should limit contirbutors to castle owners only lol wtf ... ), crest engraving 180 sec in Interlude ( WTF ? Another L2J copy paste customization from GF)
4. You say "keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles" - Making you angry = troubles ? :D Nice. How angry would you feel if someone will shit on your work and lie in your face. You shouldn't be a GM, you seem to have no experience about L2 gaming, either about what should lead to troubles. I could insult you cause IN MY OPINION you are just a not very smart man with GM status... So sad Drake/TrackZero chosen you.
About bug fixing - ok its fine, then the one who has some loss due to that bug should get back his demonic stuff after bug fixed.
Opinion of server depends on you GMs. Dont destroy dragon-network name. I want to be proud of having top char at server from dragon network, not annoyed of stupid ideas of some nonexperienced ppl. You build L2 Interlude Chronicle and PPL who play here came for it, not for L2J GF. I understand that engine is engine. But even if you use some crap to build server try to build it in the right direction wich is INTERLUDE Chronicle. (I know it is hard to get info about exact stats of everything at interlude but it is your problem - you decided to build L2 Interlude server).
Kind regards,
Paul
Hello Paul,
But i have to disagree with you about l2j thing, you are either throwing things randomly or your knowledge about this matter is very low. Every single thing you said about l2j-gf = our interlude is so wrong from A - Z . If you need some more explanations you can send me a PM and i will answer you promptly about it once i have time for it.
Thanks
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
Hello Paul,
But i have to disagree with you about l2j thing, you are either throwing things randomly or your knowledge about this matter is very low. Every single thing you said about l2j-gf = our interlude is so wrong from A - Z . If you need some more explanations you can send me a PM and i will answer you promptly about it once i have time for it.
Thanks
Hi TrackZero,
That is not very important about if you prove me it is not L2J etc.
I really have a huge hope you will setup this server perfectly as soon it will be possible. Really me, and many other people (With all their hate to each other :D) want to be proud of having hero, castles, good pvp etc at new server of dragon-network. Remember it.
It is important to respect people, not let Artur lie to people, to warn us about incoming changes. I very understand random crash/restart etc. It happens. But things you change depends on you so you can tell us that something will change. About Zariche/Akamanah you could turn it off, fix a bug, turn it on (whenever it will be fixed) and give back to last owner with fixed remaining time. Respect his time, his plan etc.
If Artur warn about consequences of posting at forum cause Artur did lie ingame cause he believed it will stay in private talk, then Artur is veeerrry bad person to be GM.
It is like "I do what I want, I am GM and I do whatever I want, I can pee on you but you must be polite to me cause you play on our server [If ppl wouldnt play your server you would ask them to come here ...]."
No community = no server .. Good luck if you will not respect players.
And players EXPECT from GMs that they are professional. Players got ingame rules and advantages. You got tools to let them play with that rules and advantages.
Quote from: Vestrivian on February 05, 2014, 07:48:55 PM
None of this happens when u lose the weapon in normal way, this dear QQer is result of GMs action
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,279841.0.html
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,279758.0.html
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,279758.msg2423116.html#msg2423116
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,279337.msg2420298.html#msg2420298
Quote from: mibcadet on February 05, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
Few things:
1. If there is so many bugs why started server before fixing them ? Oh I know, GF Java server files got some collision.
2. Before you change something that can be important please at least warn about it at announcements ingame (like: UPDATE IS COMMING SEE CHANGELOG ON FORUM) - It will show you respect players that came back to new server of dragon-network. Remember: players community is what you exist for as GM. Respect players cause they are reason of your server building. You dont know how to host dont do it and dont waste our time. From 10yo experience of dragon-network we expect sth more than bugged crap.
3. Have you ever played L2 Interlude ? I mean real playing not geting 3rd class and the end of story. I mean getting hero, castles etc. I see you read stats from some weird sites, talking some unreal things (like: 7S Down should be only allowed for clan with castle... - man, it boost clan with castle but why it should limit contirbutors to castle owners only lol wtf ... ), crest engraving 180 sec in Interlude ( WTF ? Another L2J copy paste customization from GF)
4. You say "keeping this offensive behaviour can only cause you troubles" - Making you angry = troubles ? :D Nice. How angry would you feel if someone will shit on your work and lie in your face. You shouldn't be a GM, you seem to have no experience about L2 gaming, either about what should lead to troubles. I could insult you cause IN MY OPINION you are just a not very smart man with GM status... So sad Drake/TrackZero chosen you.
About bug fixing - ok its fine, then the one who has some loss due to that bug should get back his demonic stuff after bug fixed.
Opinion of server depends on you GMs. Dont destroy dragon-network name. I want to be proud of having top char at server from dragon network, not annoyed of stupid ideas of some nonexperienced ppl. You build L2 Interlude Chronicle and PPL who play here came for it, not for L2J GF. I understand that engine is engine. But even if you use some crap to build server try to build it in the right direction wich is INTERLUDE Chronicle. (I know it is hard to get info about exact stats of everything at interlude but it is your problem - you decided to build L2 Interlude server).
Kind regards,
Paul
1. How many times we need to tell you that this files arent L2J :) Are you just trolling for fun?
2. Tarantula isnt "bugged crap" as you say. It just needs few more fixes. Give as some time, and for sure soon we will focus on increasing features instead of fixing current features.
4. Your opinion about me keep for yourself, and remember about rules:
Forum:
Quote- Insulting and humiliating others , including staff , will be instantly sanctioned with permanent ban.
Server:
Quote3.6 Always use common sense. A GM or Supervisor can anytime judge you even with rules that aren't listed.
3.7 Respect other players, Administration and GMs.
Quote from: mibcadet on February 05, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Hi TrackZero,
That is not very important about if you prove me it is not L2J etc.
I really have a huge hope you will setup this server perfectly as soon it will be possible. Really me, and many other people (With all their hate to each other :D) want to be proud of having hero, castles, good pvp etc at new server of dragon-network. Remember it.
It is important to respect people, not let Artur lie to people, to warn us about incoming changes. I very understand random crash/restart etc. It happens. But things you change depends on you so you can tell us that something will change. About Zariche/Akamanah you could turn it off, fix a bug, turn it on (whenever it will be fixed) and give back to last owner with fixed remaining time. Respect his time, his plan etc.
If Artur warn about consequences of posting at forum cause Artur did lie ingame cause he believed it will stay in private talk, then Artur is veeerrry bad person to be GM.
It is like "I do what I want, I am GM and I do whatever I want, I can pee on you but you must be polite to me cause you play on our server [If ppl wouldnt play your server you would ask them to come here ...]."
No community = no server .. Good luck if you will not respect players.
Paul believe me , respecting community is 1 of our major guidelines and it will remain like that. I believe Artur was tired and exhausted over rapid testing and excessive amount of support he does lately overall and especially for Polish community.Thats why his actions were like that, i would like to apologize to all players who felt insulted by it and we will do everything not to repeat such mistake again. I hope you can understand
Thank you for playing and supporting DN over all these years.
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on February 05, 2014, 08:29:32 PM
Paul believe me , respecting community is 1 of our major guidelines and it will remain like that. I believe Artur was tired and exhausted over rapid testing and excessive amount of support he does lately overall and especially for Polish community.Thats why his actions were like that, i would like to apologize to all players who felt insulted by it and we will do everything not to repeat such mistake again. I hope you can understand
Thank you for playing and supporting DN over all these years.
Thank You TrackZero. Nice to see what you wrote :)
Sad is you wrote that good words and respect for us - players - while Artur still behave like an mad-man at forum.
Hope you will fix it all soon and improve ingame experience with some features :)
Artur:
You remember about :
3.6 Always use common sense. A GM or Supervisor can anytime judge you even with rules that aren't listed.
only when you can use it for your advantage. Not when ingame ppl behave like animals.
And for your information, I say my own opinion and YOU WILL NOT TELL ME WHAT I AM ALLOWED TO TALK UNLESS I RESPECT THE LAW. I am not saying who you are etc. I just said my opinion wich I have marked with caps. If I would say "You are stupid" - this is insult. I should get banned for it if you think so. But If i say "in my opinion you are not very smart" it is not insult but just an private opinion wich I am allowed to talk in public. That is international law in EU and US (dunno about RU).
And still you didn't respond about that you did lie to players.
Better stop this converstion Artur. I wish you will think about above and improve your "being as GM". Wish it to you and players.
You have big luck TrackZero can talk and behave in community forum like real professional GM.