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Title: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
What pvp event you would like and why?

Evacuate and me have in mind 2 of them, but what would you suggest, and why?

*I dodged the poll because of the bots. I prefer live, reasonable, and argumented suggestions
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: dirt on June 10, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
.... we just want the sever online with out any wipe or rollback thats all ... if i lose my Baium that i farm 6 h before sever goes down i leave for sure ...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 04:23:12 PM
If i lose any fuking single thing,im gone also and my clan sindicate will goes with me.

We dont want events,we wanted gm's to listen at us before,now also 100 or 200 players already probably left.

We wanted active gm's.

We wanted a promoted server.

We wanted at least 2k players.

We want pvp at epic bosses.

We want not lose 3 hours to find pvp.

We wanted combat haste mana potions,you guys said no,we all accepted and thats the current situation.

I got 1 char hacked from 1 month,i wanted your gm's help,i got 0 till now.

We wanted a lot of usefull things.

PS:I presented war to every single clan i can,and i find 0,im not having my fun,i farmed,i wasted over 60 coins to auguments and stuff,everything is done in my char,and current situation is that one.

Thank you FUK thank YOU (I cant express by keyboard how nervous and desapointed i got after read that HDD mistake).

Im tired

10 years here,asking from 3 months,get me players,get us some more players,stop banning,promote server.

NOTHING.

Everyone knows in russian servers there are 5k online,i joined yesterday and its fantastic,NO,i dont wanna go there,i wanna be here,but PROMOTE THIS SERVER.

Get us 2k online at night time at least
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: dirt on June 10, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
+1 Kabally :)

Syndi !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: dirt on June 10, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
.... we just want the sever online with out any wipe or rollback thats all ... if i lose my Baium that i farm 6 h before sever goes down i leave for sure ...
There wont be rollbacks.

Quote from: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 04:23:12 PM
If i lose any fuking single thing,im gone also and my clan sindicate will goes with me.
We dont want events,we wanted gm's to listen at us before,now also 100 or 200 players already probably left.
We wanted active gm's.
We wanted a promoted server.
We wanted at least 2k players.
We want pvp at epic bosses.
We want not lose 3 hours to find pvp.
We wanted combat haste mana potions,you guys said no,we all accepted and thats the current situation.
I got 1 char hacked from 1 month,i wanted your gm's help,i got 0 till now.
We wanted a lot of usefull things.
PS:I presented war to every single clan i can,and i find 0,im not having my fun,i farmed,i wasted over 60 coins to auguments and stuff,everything is done in my char,and current situation is that one.
Thank you FUK thank YOU .!.
Im tired
There are active GM-s, and assistance when is needed. However non of us can be playing this game, so dont expect playing activity. GM-s are used for events and assistance.

You have promotion of server, can i force players to vote? No i can not. On the other side, players demand higher population and yet they dont care to vote, so once again players are the one who should think about it. Will i reward players for voting, yes with regular events , but items rewards no. Why? Simply because of others who work their ass off to get the items. More players should be enough reward itself.

Pvp at epic bosses? Shell i start banning people who dont pvp at epic bosses? Thats clearly community's decision will they pvp or not. I still remember 7 days after servers opening , 3 big enemy clans from Poland united just to kill Antharas , and i guess we all know why they are doing that and where all those items end.
So demanding pvp is not in my jurisdiction .

PvP once again is a players decision will he fight or not, if they prefer to farm instead of fighting i cant do much. So once again pvp is something i cant affect.
*Just for the record, there are servers who are made from 3 servers together (2 RUS 1 Inter) , they started over 6k players , yet they have now around 2k players (no strict rules against bots ), and still on this server you cant find any of PVP. Blame spoiled community, blame greedy players, blame CP system instead of clan system, in the end blame NCsoft and their f2p concept which totally degenerated L2 itself. Wait what L2?
But blaming gm-s for no actions nor pvp is quite dull.

About potions we already discussed about it, there is the tattoo system that compensate it.

"A lot of useful things" , great demand.

You got hacked? I got 0 pms about it, nor any of GMs told me about it, therefor i cant do miracles.

And in the end thank you and persons similar like you for ruining my topic, switching the subject.


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Bump for the topics subject, thank you.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Morel on June 10, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
lmao kabally, you should demand leaving of russia from ukraine too
+ global peace
+ water for africa
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kramligz on June 10, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
When Tarantula is off, I was on the pvp server which the population is more than 1k and I like their TvT Event every single hour. It promotes a lot of pvp, Even clanmates or friends can be enemies. It composes only 2 teams, orange and blue. The more kills wins. Simple but interesting to play when you got bored from having farming a whole lot day. Of course if your team wins, corresponding rewards will be implemented. Just my thought if we can do this on our server.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: kramligz on June 10, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
When Tarantula is off, I was on the pvp server which the population is more than 1k and I like their TvT Event every single hour. It promotes a lot of pvp, Even clanmates or friends can be enemies. It composes only 2 teams, orange and blue. The more kills wins. Simple but interesting to play when you got bored from having farming a whole lot day.
Indeed, but thats L2j server most probably. Im familiar with that system but sadly for l2off servers is a no go.

However we have GoE pvp area that should be pvp concept with great rewards, however greedy players and exploiters ruined it totally.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: nosphertau on June 10, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
About first thread. 2v2 in coloseum mby?? With self buff/ section for mages/archers etc + mixed. Awards, mby cirlet or funny shield like from GOE, or hat.

Second, mby "event medals" event. Fun to colect that stuff and prizez are good for everyone.

About voting, make more special topic's or just shout it sometimes on annoucement when serv is online.

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: nosphertau on June 10, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
About first thread. 2v2 in coloseum mby?? With self buff/ section for mages/archers etc + mixed. Awards, mby cirlet or funny shield like from GOE, or hat.

Second, mby "event medals" event. Fun to colect that stuff and prizez are good for everyone.

About voting, make more special topic's or just shout it sometimes on annoucement when serv is online.
Thank you for suggestion, we will see how topic will proceed with suggestions.

About auto-events they are planned regularly, topic is about custom pvp ones.

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
There wont be rollbacks.
There are active GM-s, and assistance when is needed. However non of us can be playing this game, so dont expect playing activity. GM-s are used for events and assistance.

You have promotion of server, can i force players to vote? No i can not. On the other side, players demand higher population and yet they dont care to vote, so once again players are the one who should think about it. Will i reward players for voting, yes with regular events , but items rewards no. Why? Simply because of others who work their ass off to get the items. More players should be enough reward itself.

Pvp at epic bosses? Shell i start banning people who dont pvp at epic bosses? Thats clearly community's decision will they pvp or not. I still remember 7 days after servers opening , 3 big enemy clans from Poland united just to kill Antharas , and i guess we all know why they are doing that and where all those items end.
So demanding pvp is not in my jurisdiction .

PvP once again is a players decision will he fight or not, if they prefer to farm instead of fighting i cant do much. So once again pvp is something i cant affect.
*Just for the record, there are servers who are made from 3 servers together (2 RUS 1 Inter) , they started over 6k players , yet they have now around 2k players (no strict rules against bots ), and still on this server you cant find any of PVP. Blame spoiled community, blame greedy players, blame CP system instead of clan system, in the end blame NCsoft and their f2p concept which totally degenerated L2 itself. Wait what L2?
But blaming gm-s for no actions nor pvp is quite dull.

About potions we already discussed about it, there is the tattoo system that compensate it.

"A lot of useful things" , great demand.

You got hacked? I got 0 pms about it, nor any of GMs told me about it, therefor i cant do miracles.

And in the end thank you and persons similar like you for ruining my topic, switching the subject.


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Bump for the topics subject, thank you.

After what happen between me and you and never wanted to talk back with you.

But let me tell u something,what the fuk is ur topic important compared to all those people who played here last 5 months?All nights,all days we wasted time here.

Ye go ahead then delete my topic my post,hide the truth,dont deal with it.

I bring over 50 people to your server,OVER 50,everyone can bring 2 guys,so we can double the server.

Yes i got my bishop wk hacked 1 month ago,and ofc i talked with 1 gm,to get help,seems he didnt pm you,i think he pmed drake,and he didnt asnwer.

Still i didnt want to ruin ur fuking topic,i wanted you to know whats going on,u think anyone wants to play a fuking event when we dont even know about our items?

Jizas man,you are too tchilled because you just have to do 1 single click and items appear,for us players,its not like this.

We lose 5 hours to farm 1 baium witch will goes between 30 40 diferent ppl.You talk about ur work,but u dont see ours,you dont realize its us players who keep server alive.

Why would i want to ruin ur topic Nik?I know u from 8 years,we dont talk anymore,but i dont wish u anything wrong.

About my char...name is Ultrasina,was changed to pwnzy,and i just cannot enter anymore.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: nosphertau on June 10, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
Thank you for suggestion, we will see how topic will proceed with suggestions.

About auto-events they are planned regularly, topic is about custom pvp ones.
Or mby we can make a "clan wars"/team wars. Make topic on forum, where people will sign up teams, make  ladders or play off system (some like nba play offs 4 wins run). For win will be points, and best team in current week/month will be awarded ( dunno, max rec, or screenshoot with GM ;D )
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on June 10, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: nosphertau on June 10, 2014, 04:50:39 PM
About first thread. 2v2 in coloseum mby?? With self buff/ section for mages/archers etc + mixed. Awards, mby cirlet or funny shield like from GOE, or hat.

Second, mby "event medals" event. Fun to colect that stuff and prizez are good for everyone.

About voting, make more special topic's or just shout it sometimes on annoucement when serv is online.
there is something in mind about that kind of event (self buff and so on)

about voting,we did it several times,sadly majority of people wont vote cause there is not direct rewards for it,they are more thinking about their greediness than server itself.Vote for your own server,where you play and enjoy your time,means having much more players to fight whit aka most fun for every1 afterall.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kramligz on June 10, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
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Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kramligz on June 10, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on June 10, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
there is something in mind about that kind of event (self buff and so on)

about voting,we did it several times,sadly majority of people wont vote cause there is not direct rewards for it,they are more thinking about their greediness than server itself.Vote for your own server,where you play and enjoy your time,means having much more players to fight whit aka most fun for every1 afterall.

Of course, That's really a logical one. You can't expect players will vote everyday with no rewards. Maybe if they will, once in a blue moon probably. As I suggest before, make a vote rewards for this feature so that everyone have their guts to click to vote links. Well if you feel I am too greedy or what, hell no. You can view my post every single day to bump the vote thread. Sadly 2-3 ppl voting everyday including me.  :'(
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lol on June 10, 2014, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: ^Evacuate^ on June 10, 2014, 04:58:12 PM
there is something in mind about that kind of event (self buff and so on)

about voting,we did it several times,sadly majority of people wont vote cause there is not direct rewards for it,they are more thinking about their greediness than server itself.Vote for your own server,where you play and enjoy your time,means having much more players to fight whit aka most fun for every1 afterall.

Quote
ERROR ! This server is not in L2Topzone.com list or it hasn\'t been activated yet!

On many servers vote-revard system works fine, why not here? Noone expects rewards like epic jewelery, but mby hats*? If you dont wanna spend $ for promotion, then use some virtual goods for it, which wont cost you. I guess you are not making a big cash on hats there? :D

*Hats are just an example.

About GoE, for me its like second coliseum but with rewards for exploiters... (Rewards for exploiters are fine, but for voting are not?) IMO GoE is like some primitive version of those well known L2J auto-events. In my opinion they have more positives then GoE, bacause: events are short-timed and in some agreed time. Players know exactly when will be action. For signing in, you dont have to teleport anywhere, just type some command, and on time you are teleported automatically. Ported back after event.

And again im not saing made those events, but make something with goe - someone without clan, or in b/a grades wont go there because what for? For making himself pvp farm or making rich players richer?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on June 10, 2014, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: kramligz on June 10, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Of course, That's really a logical one. You can't expect players will vote everyday with no rewards. Maybe if they will, once in a blue moon probably. As I suggest before, make a vote rewards for this feature so that everyone have their guts to click to vote links. Well if you feel I am too greedy or what, hell no. You can view my post every single day to bump the vote thread. Sadly 2-3 ppl voting everyday including me.  :'(
reward for voting is lots of new people playing on server,bringing fun pvp all around.As i sad no direct reward=no vote,sadly.

Anyway let's keep the subject on what kind of events you want,we are open to all your suggestions.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: nosphertau on June 10, 2014, 05:19:58 PM
I have one idea but im not sure its possible to make this, somethink like time attack or death match. We get 2 teams and make pvp for time, who make more frags in time lines will won. Adn some like raid hunt with GM. team vs GM u will get location where u are like in guess what is it" and then team wh  kill u will get reward ;D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kainmercy on June 10, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
why not TVT(2vs2,3vs3,4vs4...,9vs9), Last man Standing,more hide and seek (with fuking proper rewards no just fuking recs) and something like a Geocaching (if you dont know what it is just use fuking google), btw for this kind of events you need active gms and track dont say you(gms in general) are active cuz its not true at least in game where you are needed and you need to something about lucid cuz is a fuking tard and do a blind ban even if we try to talk to him its impossible 0 replays from pm in forum and cant pm ingame gg for the great chose of a nice gm <3
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Sa8o on June 10, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
Coliseum 2v2 or 3v3 self buffs are most fun at all servers i played - ofc with GM who watch them and give some items for reward :)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Borscik on June 10, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
What do you think about creating sth like TvT LEAGUE?

For example, people sign teams consisting of 8 members. Only 6 members can take part in pvp while other 2 are just reserve. We could together vote about day and hour when TvT will take place and it will be constant for all. The groups can be make, consisting of 6-7 teams and only the best 3 can advance. Evert team in group fighting two times with all of other teams in group. Teams can earn points for winning.
It could take place once a week for 2-3 hours. The proper topic on forum with list of all teams and date and hours of TvT between them can be make.
Ofc we need online gm during it as a referee

I give only and example, but it can be easy change. I wanted only to give example of TvT LEAGUE like we can see during soccer leagues of all countries or championship.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: feelit on June 10, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
words words words nothing more only words ... im giving myself 1 month more if nothing change here ( i mean on tarantula server) for better then time to say goodbye
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: zyks on June 10, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Indeed, but thats L2j server most probably. Im familiar with that system but sadly for l2off servers is a no go.

However we have GoE pvp area that should be pvp concept with great rewards, however greedy players and exploiters ruined it totally.


GoE = get your friend with boxes and kill beetwen themselves over and over coz there are NOT people. Good pevepe.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: ZeniT on June 10, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 04:23:12 PM
If i lose any fuking single thing,im gone also and my clan sindicate will goes with me.

We dont want events,we wanted gm's to listen at us before,now also 100 or 200 players already probably left.

We wanted active gm's.

We wanted a promoted server.

We wanted at least 2k players.

We want pvp at epic bosses.

We want not lose 3 hours to find pvp.

We wanted combat haste mana potions,you guys said no,we all accepted and thats the current situation.

I got 1 char hacked from 1 month,i wanted your gm's help,i got 0 till now.

We wanted a lot of usefull things.

PS:I presented war to every single clan i can,and i find 0,im not having my fun,i farmed,i wasted over 60 coins to auguments and stuff,everything is done in my char,and current situation is that one.

Thank you FUK thank YOU (I cant express by keyboard how nervous and desapointed i got after read that HDD mistake).

Im tired

10 years here,asking from 3 months,get me players,get us some more players,stop banning,promote server.

NOTHING.

Everyone knows in russian servers there are 5k online,i joined yesterday and its fantastic,NO,i dont wanna go there,i wanna be here,but PROMOTE THIS SERVER.

Get us 2k online at night time at least

what a disaster, SS2 clowns leave tarantula

Pls stop this big talk again like you would do anything on tarantula except spaming forum. Why didnt you accepted/declared clanwars when the server was crowded. What you did in the first ~3-4 months? We had to pvp for tezza, antharas, baium, aq and zaken. there were some fight even for orfen ^^. Everybody who praticipated in those fights know that, you are a nonfactor piece of sh1t. And pls stop this 10 years bullsh1t, all your reply include this and nobody care anyway.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Pastatin on June 10, 2014, 06:24:16 PM
and if we put a npc buffer for low level players in areas of the levee to encourage the host server
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: gosu12 on June 10, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
First server wake up,and next we can think abaut events,btw 9vs9 on total self buff no res scrols,no potions,no tato,its best balanced.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 06:36:24 PM
Quote from: ZeniT on June 10, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
what a disaster, SS2 clowns leave tarantula

Pls stop this big talk again like you would do anything on tarantula except spaming forum. Why didnt you accepted/declared clanwars when the server was crowded. What you did in the first ~3-4 months? We had to pvp for tezza, antharas, baium, aq and zaken. there were some fight even for orfen ^^. Everybody who praticipated in those fights know that, you are a nonfactor piece of sh1t. And pls stop this 10 years bullsh1t, all your reply include this and nobody care anyway.
Dont be an hater and talk like a man cuz i know u can.

Listen me,From january to march i was in sindycate,witch i didnt play in march,april blizzer leave,and clan was with 0 members except me p00h and mach0 probably.

I had to remake it,and i remmember me very well that at 3rd week of april i accepted all wars vs everybody,so i took 3 weeks to remake it,i had 0 ppl at begining so it was pointless to start any kind of war.
Now my clan is good and ready to any kind of pvp,witch i worked a lot for with some other members.

Im not the kind of person that give up,i know you wish me to be a loser,but im not.

Dont make such hater and posts because everybody knows u can do better then it,at least i know instand of flamming.

Peace
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: ZeniT on June 10, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 10, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
There wont be rollbacks.
There are active GM-s, and assistance when is needed. However non of us can be playing this game, so dont expect playing activity. GM-s are used for events and assistance.

You have promotion of server, can i force players to vote? No i can not. On the other side, players demand higher population and yet they dont care to vote, so once again players are the one who should think about it. Will i reward players for voting, yes with regular events , but items rewards no. Why? Simply because of others who work their ass off to get the items. More players should be enough reward itself.

Pvp at epic bosses? Shell i start banning people who dont pvp at epic bosses? Thats clearly community's decision will they pvp or not. I still remember 7 days after servers opening , 3 big enemy clans from Poland united just to kill Antharas , and i guess we all know why they are doing that and where all those items end.
So demanding pvp is not in my jurisdiction .

PvP once again is a players decision will he fight or not, if they prefer to farm instead of fighting i cant do much. So once again pvp is something i cant affect.
*Just for the record, there are servers who are made from 3 servers together (2 RUS 1 Inter) , they started over 6k players , yet they have now around 2k players (no strict rules against bots ), and still on this server you cant find any of PVP. Blame spoiled community, blame greedy players, blame CP system instead of clan system, in the end blame NCsoft and their f2p concept which totally degenerated L2 itself. Wait what L2?
But blaming gm-s for no actions nor pvp is quite dull.

About potions we already discussed about it, there is the tattoo system that compensate it.

"A lot of useful things" , great demand.

You got hacked? I got 0 pms about it, nor any of GMs told me about it, therefor i cant do miracles.

And in the end thank you and persons similar like you for ruining my topic, switching the subject.


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Bump for the topics subject, thank you.

just to be accurate, first antharas kill was organized by Warheads clan. We made temporary alliance just for kill the first antharas

Excidium ~3pt ?poland/international?
Zerg ~1pt international
FikaszZnikasz ~1pt international
Warheads ~1pt international

if i good remember, there was only 1 nobless char LSDtrip. :D it was fun.

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lasin on June 10, 2014, 07:46:36 PM
Track is mentioned,he cant do nothing about PvP,well here is a thing,yes,you CAN DO something about it. Simply add combat zone to some areas and thats it.
We are bored of PK'ig shitty clans who dont have guts to accept war,or even flag.
Add auto flag system at Baium crystal,Ant Queen spawn area,same as it is at Valakas.

PS: Back to topic,we dont need events,we need more people and you can aquire more people if you give us vote rewards. Not only me,but most of the community wont vote if there is no vote reward.
Add vote medals,and the prices should be Hats,Accessories,Quick Healing Pots,255 Rec,some Shields (AND YEA,THEY ARE NOT SO HUGE IMPACT ON THE SERVER BALANCE)

And if you are against the vote reward system,I bet that you dont have the skills to make it,just say'n :)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
Quote from: lasin on June 10, 2014, 07:46:36 PM
Track is mentioned,he cant do nothing about PvP,well here is a thing,yes,you CAN DO something about it. Simply add combat zone to some areas and thats it.
We are bored of PK'ig shitty clans who dont have guts to accept war,or even flag.
Add auto flag system at Baium crystal,Ant Queen spawn area,same as it is at Valakas.

PS: Back to topic,we dont need events,we need more people and you can aquire more people if you give us vote rewards. Not only me,but most of the community wont vote if there is no vote reward.
Add vote medals,and the prices should be Hats,Accessories,Quick Healing Pots,255 Rec,some Shields (AND YEA,THEY ARE NOT SO HUGE IMPACT ON THE SERVER BALANCE)

And if you are against the vote reward system,I bet that you dont have the skills to make it,just say'n :)

Bro..good words but..rewards to vote?

Its our server..i think..

Just send me the fuking link again ill make 200 ppl vote at least
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lasin on June 10, 2014, 08:08:21 PM
Quote from: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
Bro..good words but..rewards to vote?

Its our server..i think..

Just send me the fuking link again ill make 200 ppl vote at least
Well,I think Dnet is offline on topzone. But anyhow,vote reward is not a huge deal,most of people will start to vote,people will see that our server is rising on vote sites,people will join,they are gona vote for the reward = KABOOM MAHOOOM,more people.

All the servers I played/tested/just loged to check it,had vote system,and there was always 700+ people.

Oh just to mention,Vote system should be account related,cause when I saw vote rewards like "Next reward on XX votes" People are just afk at town waiting for reward. NOO. You log in on dnet with your acc,vote,get reward and wait 12h. Simple as that
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rowdy on June 10, 2014, 08:23:32 PM
dont make anything that glad/pp can dominate, thanks
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rowdy on June 10, 2014, 08:34:14 PM
Quote from: xLaserkillerx on June 10, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
here we go again,the QQ =)) so go make glad/pp and dominate the scene,thx.its ez to play btw.oh but w8,its boring to play thats why u arent making one xD
its not just because its boring, there are alot glads already on oly with max'd equipment and glad with hero skills in pvp is just de-leveling
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: Falatko on June 10, 2014, 08:41:23 PM
server dead /end of story

who delete this post please fck urself :D

Server isnt dead adela...but ya 1.4k 1.3k players at 21pm gmt+0,could go to 2.5k..if every players would try to get 2 3 friends..tahts only this.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 08:47:40 PM
Quote from: Falatko on June 10, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
i told u, they failed in begining, worse balance, sh1ty rates and everything compared to old dragon il servers

I know they do the best they can..but it doesnt mean the best sometimes..hard to defend them,when we have less then 800 players we had at begining ...but still and i know after server come up,lot of players will be hungry to play..lets see =)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: chlipus on June 10, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
3 vs 3 w/o res  ;D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: enemy on June 10, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
There's only 700 players max or less i played on other server which had active 1.5k ppls a lot of ppls were running around in towns a lot of ppls were in hs/fog/varka/ketra active pt's + in stakato here u can see max 1-2 ppls with bots farming in necro spot or in varka/ketra max dino thats all..About vote yes make a system put some reward's which is not unbalancing the server put ssc/bssc to grocery and some c grade stuff to to help the newbies to catch up easier.About pvp area at epics i agree those ppls who need quest can still ask for Q at baium specially and u dont have to kill em at Queen ant u should make smthing cause now qa is 5sec cause 1 pt destro logs in FOI and done u cant do sh1t the best solution would be that u get dropped after like 10 min or smthing so u have to pvp for qa not just logging 9 destro and 1shot it.And another suggestion i alrdy saw a topic about upgrading cilent to HB or smthing myb in future we can play in HB with limited attri system and kamaels w/o subb etc
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: enemy on June 10, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
There's only 700 players max or less i played on other server which had active 1.5k ppls a lot of ppls were running around in towns a lot of ppls were in hs/fog/varka/ketra active pt's + in stakato here u can see max 1-2 ppls with bots farming in necro spot or in varka/ketra max dino thats all..About vote yes make a system put some reward's which is not unbalancing the server put ssc/bssc to grocery and some c grade stuff to to help the newbies to catch up easier.About pvp area at epics i agree those ppls who need quest can still ask for Q at baium specially and u dont have to kill em at Queen ant u should make smthing cause now qa is 5sec cause 1 pt destro logs in FOI and done u cant do sh1t the best solution would be that u get dropped after like 10 min or smthing so u have to pvp for qa not just logging 9 destro and 1shot it.And another suggestion i alrdy saw a topic about upgrading cilent to HB or smthing myb in future we can play in HB with limited attri system and kamaels w/o subb etc

Upgrading to HB,not good idea since most of us here for the interlude,but yes maybe later i agree.

Rest u said,its true.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: reddragonjr on June 10, 2014, 09:48:52 PM
Fk HB Il all teh way!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: djvancho on June 10, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
first put 1 oly bufer in coliseum for not suport chars in olympiads to have more chances against glad/pp
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 10, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
And fight can start when glad/pp have 300 hp !
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 10, 2014, 10:26:11 PM
And fight can start when glad/pp have 300 hp !

HAHAHAHAHAHA <3
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 10, 2014, 10:29:46 PM
Btw.. Diogo had a very nice idea.
http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,283748.0.html
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 10, 2014, 10:48:37 PM
2 events, 1st one 3 vs3 all eq allowed, the 2nd one for newbies with max B/A grade(it's up to u) 3vs3 as well
this one was pretty good on drg ;)

rewards appropriate to the event, ie. 'more difficult event'
bews,no grade/d/c/.. + 25 :D(fame thing) for winners//
'easier event'S grade weap/armor recipe for winners
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HeroAW on June 10, 2014, 11:10:53 PM
Quote from: ZeniT on June 10, 2014, 06:40:06 PM
just to be accurate, first antharas kill was organized by Warheads clan. We made temporary alliance just for kill the first antharas

Excidium ~3pt ?poland/international?
Zerg ~1pt international
FikaszZnikasz ~1pt international
Warheads ~1pt international

if i good remember, there was only 1 nobless char LSDtrip. :D it was fun.
yet didnt get even di3 for 9k spirit ores spend to noble :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: undertaker22 on June 11, 2014, 02:01:50 AM
2v2  @  gludin Arena  (Colosseum to big lol) 
Self buffs
C Grade only :D
come N Get it 
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kapsel on June 11, 2014, 02:31:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/spVrM.gif)
im out of here, hf
kpz
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lasin on June 11, 2014, 03:13:28 AM
Quote from: enemy on June 10, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
There's only 700 players max or less i played on other server which had active 1.5k ppls a lot of ppls were running around in towns a lot of ppls were in hs/fog/varka/ketra active pt's + in stakato here u can see max 1-2 ppls with bots farming in necro spot or in varka/ketra max dino thats all..About vote yes make a system put some reward's which is not unbalancing the server put ssc/bssc to grocery and some c grade stuff to to help the newbies to catch up easier.About pvp area at epics i agree those ppls who need quest can still ask for Q at baium specially and u dont have to kill em at Queen ant u should make smthing cause now qa is 5sec cause 1 pt destro logs in FOI and done u cant do sh1t the best solution would be that u get dropped after like 10 min or smthing so u have to pvp for qa not just logging 9 destro and 1shot it.And another suggestion i alrdy saw a topic about upgrading cilent to HB or smthing myb in future we can play in HB with limited attri system and kamaels w/o subb etc
this
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: rivotril on June 11, 2014, 03:18:28 AM
I think !!! PLOX STOP RB Farmer , make  ZONE  WAR . Extreme  ban  ppl with  mutiple boxes . give  place to new people  . all of you  have a lots  of things  like  rb jewels  ,. sets  +++++ and   all of you no have respect to low levels chars , try in a server for all not for only  6  persons ..
  I honestly do not feel comfortable and I can not compete with someone at night gets more than just 1kkk killing RB solo with bots. I do not like to give examples but all the server knows and can be counted on the fingers of one hand. stop the bots and the server be balanced for everyone. give more time to ban people who do it making it progressive
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kainmercy on June 11, 2014, 03:39:27 AM
Quote from: rivotril on June 11, 2014, 03:18:28 AM
I think !!! PLOX STOP RB Farmer , make  ZONE  WAR . Extreme  ban  ppl with  mutiple boxes . give  place to new people  . all of you  have a lots  of things  like  rb jewels  ,. sets  +++++ and   all of you no have respect to low levels chars , try in a server for all not for only  6  persons ..
  I honestly do not feel comfortable and I can not compete with someone at night gets more than just 1kkk killing RB solo with bots. I do not like to give examples but all the server knows and can be counted on the fingers of one hand. stop the bots and the server be balanced for everyone. give more time to ban people who do it making it progressive
just remember the more they ban the less we play ;) and you have a extreme "banner" its called ^lucid^ (<-- he will kill the server), and that ppl you say you cant compet that just proves 2 things 1 you have a live 2 you are a funking naab that dont know how to make rb ^^
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: rivotril on June 11, 2014, 03:53:00 AM
Quote from: kainmercy on June 11, 2014, 03:39:27 AM
just remember the more they ban the less we play ;) and you have a extreme "banner" its called ^lucid^ (<-- he will kill the server), and that ppl you say you cant compet that just proves 2 things 1 you have a live 2 you are a funking naab that dont know how to make rb ^^

Y maybe im a fuking nabb like you say  but i use to play with people/ friends  and they are not bots .  is  simple make  zone war on all  RB and pvp  will be done  !!  and all RB farmes will die ! and  we could take more fun  on  server

Remember I play with people not with bots !!! XP
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: suprax on June 11, 2014, 04:04:13 AM
I see some guys talking about make respawn rbs zone pvp.. ok this work for old ppl and ppl that are really fully equip subbed and gear, but we must thunk about bring new ppl for the server. I was at h5 dn this have event for exp drop spoil rate it is good becouse for the new guys that come here will take faste exp and spoil matts for make yourself items or the other way sell matts. We need more ppl for have a fun server. Kabally and others here talk about pvp this will keep the old ppl but we need ideas for new players.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: hackerslav on June 11, 2014, 04:44:34 AM
Quote from: 5ruci on June 11, 2014, 04:18:01 AM
And i say, why u ppls waste time in old chronicle on tara when u can get 2k online ppls and fun on x15 Dragon ? :P Dragon is alrdy promoted and have all what need except fer non-playble gm wich tara gms can help , track u fail with tara let ur dreams die here and go back on dragon ;)

dwarfy accept plox,dragon is glasy`s kingdom with 200 players. Tarantula is good server i was played there.

1-2 sh1t picture is the promotion? its joke?

ps.: my italian friend cant delete post in this section  :-*
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: cestyany on June 11, 2014, 06:01:04 AM
I Agree with some ppl here, first of all, I read some replies about PVP that came from, I guess, from geared ppl. It's ok, and gm is talking about pvp stuff so he/they r trying to mskr these ppl happy, nonetheless, they r claiming more ppl, so how r we supposed to pvp when there r no eonugh ppl? so do not encourage pvp and encourage new ppl to join the server by announcing it in game and events focusing on new/avarage player so as to populate the server after we get enought ppl we all can kill each other wherever we see each other.

PS: ofc Im trying to get more ppl to server, I recommend u all do the same and do not rage quiting.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 11, 2014, 06:24:07 AM
Quote from: cestyany on June 11, 2014, 06:01:04 AM
I Agree with some ppl here, first of all, I read some replies about PVP that came from, I guess, from geared ppl. It's ok, and gm is talking about pvp stuff so he/they r trying to mskr these ppl happy, nonetheless, they r claiming more ppl, so how r we supposed to pvp when there r no eonugh ppl? so do not encourage pvp and encourage new ppl to join the server by announcing it in game and events focusing on new/avarage player so as to populate the server after we get enought ppl we all can kill each other wherever we see each other.

PS: ofc Im trying to get more ppl to server, I recommend u all do the same and do not rage quiting.

Thats it,and if just,every player get 2 friends it will triple the people playing here,thing is that,only 5% will do it..still if 5 % do it u will feel some difference.

Everybody try to get 2 players,do ur best.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Moska23 on June 11, 2014, 07:02:07 AM
Quote from: Kabally on June 10, 2014, 04:23:12 PM
If i lose any fuking single thing,im gone also and my clan sindicate will goes with me.

We dont want events,we wanted gm's to listen at us before,now also 100 or 200 players already probably left.

We wanted active gm's.

We wanted a promoted server.

We wanted at least 2k players.

We want pvp at epic bosses.

We want not lose 3 hours to find pvp.

We wanted combat haste mana potions,you guys said no,we all accepted and thats the current situation.

I got 1 char hacked from 1 month,i wanted your gm's help,i got 0 till now.

We wanted a lot of usefull things.

PS:I presented war to every single clan i can,and i find 0,im not having my fun,i farmed,i wasted over 60 coins to auguments and stuff,everything is done in my char,and current situation is that one.

Thank you FUK thank YOU (I cant express by keyboard how nervous and desapointed i got after read that HDD mistake).

Im tired

10 years here,asking from 3 months,get me players,get us some more players,stop banning,promote server.

NOTHING.

Everyone knows in russian servers there are 5k online,i joined yesterday and its fantastic,NO,i dont wanna go there,i wanna be here,but PROMOTE THIS SERVER.

Get us 2k online at night time at least

L O L <------

What can I say.... After 5 months, u are experiencing the same situation that top clans had, due to clans such as yours, FW, EvilBunnies and so on. Its hilarious that now u come on forum to complain about that, after u farmed in ur cave for 5 months.... LOL

When I say you, I dont really mean just you, but all players that were hidden untill now, and that are now bragging about how good they are when the server no longer has its best players!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Fiorella on June 11, 2014, 07:18:15 AM
Quote from: enemy on June 10, 2014, 09:39:49 PM
There's only 700 players max or less i played on other server which had active 1.5k ppls a lot of ppls were running around in towns a lot of ppls were in hs/fog/varka/ketra active pt's + in stakato here u can see max 1-2 ppls with bots farming in necro spot or in varka/ketra max dino thats all..About vote yes make a system put some reward's which is not unbalancing the server put ssc/bssc to grocery and some c grade stuff to to help the newbies to catch up easier.About pvp area at epics i agree those ppls who need quest can still ask for Q at baium specially and u dont have to kill em at Queen ant u should make smthing cause now qa is 5sec cause 1 pt destro logs in FOI and done u cant do sh1t the best solution would be that u get dropped after like 10 min or smthing so u have to pvp for qa not just logging 9 destro and 1shot it.And another suggestion i alrdy saw a topic about upgrading cilent to HB or smthing myb in future we can play in HB with limited attri system and kamaels w/o subb etc

Do something at this point like on Custom Golkondas (Teleport to town to each subbed people that are near Golka)
because is really sad, that some People (CLANS) abuse of FOI killing low RB (CORE - ORFEN - AQ) with Destroyers lvl 80 with Frenzy + Zealot activate.

Also to increase the amount of people on servers, GM's must try to made at least 2 pvp events each month:

1 PVP event focus on new players, only players 60 - 74 with C - B - A grade, on main class can participate, Quest Horn as reward.

2 PVP event focus on Old players, 76 - 80 lvl can participate, and on party of 4 - 5 people as max (with max items enchant = +6, like Oly)
Reward will be 4 donator coins to each party winner member, any quest items (Red Pippete Knife - or Barakiel item quest), or Vial Epic item, all depends what the player want as reward.

3- Put NPC Buffer, that can be used only for players till 40 - 48 lvl with normal buff (Haste lvl 2, Acumen lvl 3, empower lvl 2, BTB and BTS lvl 4 only, Focus lvl 2, Magic Barrier lvl 1, Vampiric Rage, Wind walk lvl 2, Shield and Might lvl 2) and only for 20 minutes each buff. Because is sad and boring see people (New people) asking for buff at Gludio - Giran - Aden.

Other thing can be give some more valuable reward for each vote.

*Custom Hats
*1 piece of Vial Epic ( With 20 piece you earn a Full Vial Epic, tradeable only with Mammon)

Also change nick color to TOP pvp Players

100 - 200 (W Colour)
201 - 500 (X Colour)
501 - 900 (Y Colour)
901 and more (Z Colour)

And please Delete raid boss respawn list from Website, let us camp raid boss like old days without any Respawn List Help, that list move this server from; normal pvp/farm server, on full farm server.

Normal old pvp/farm player:
Was, asking about raid respawn on clan/ally chat or on Giran town.
Sometimes in old times we was made mass pvp at raids Zone, for any fake respawn info (but that was very funny).

The doubt of know real raid boss respawn, made this server full alive on IL (Dragon) times

Nowdays farm player:
Just check on website respawn of each epic, and just log in that times, kill epic, pick up drop, set offshop with the raid drop, and log off till new epic respawn.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: djvancho on June 11, 2014, 08:08:52 AM
And please Delete raid boss respawn list from Website, let us camp raid boss like old days without any Respawn List Help, that list move this server from; normal pvp/farm server, on full farm server.

Normal old pvp/farm player:
Was, asking about raid respawn on clan/ally chat or on Giran town.
Sometimes in old times we was made mass pvp at raids Zone, for any fake respawn info (but that was very funny).

The doubt of know real raid boss respawn, made this server full alive on IL (Dragon) times

Nowdays farm player:
Just check on website respawn of each epic, and just log in that times, kill epic, pick up drop, set offshop with the raid drop, and log off till new epic respawn.


that is not true with rb table in site is better and help for pvp on rboses i remember when 1 weak we had pvp for every rb on map because all know what rb must spawn and all go there
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: j0hny1982 on June 11, 2014, 08:18:00 AM
I used to play on the server where auto events were every 2 hours (TVT, King Of The Hill, Kapture the Flag, Fortress Defence) :). For partcipate you just write the command "/ event" and it automaticaly summon you from any place you are on map to the coliseum or other location where the event was, randomly assign you to the Red or Blue team, a very cool thing will never boring  :)

PS. More advertise server, and the adds placed necessarily "NO BOT'S!" and repaired register on DN side from any email you have can register (my friends w8ing 1 week + and no answer came from the DN, bored of waiting and went to another servers

And disable RB respown on site plz, in old times we gather party/clan and everyone searching for any alive RB's and we were so happy when we finaly found some :) now 0 fun :/ before some RB respown fullbuffed de/ty already w8ing, alvays the same ppl farming it 95% ppl dont even going and no searching nothing just stay bored in town

this is my suggestion :)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Fiorella on June 11, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
Quote from: djvancho on June 11, 2014, 08:08:52 AM

that is not true with rb table in site is better and help for pvp on rboses i remember when 1 weak we had pvp for every rb on map because all know what rb must spawn and all go there

depens how you want see that.

For me was most funny when...

I log at game, and ask on clan/ally chat for Baium - Antharas - Valakas respawn, and mates tell me,
"Dunno, I'm not was at the last one"
"in next 3 - 5 days"
"or Respawn start"

as I wrote before "The doubt of know real raid boss respawn" was the funny part of this game (at least to me).

also if we try to kill any other normal raid, we had to REAL hunt they, sometimes fighting against low level clans or ramdon party that was made at Giran - Aden.

Nowdays with Respawn list, the big clans kill all normal raids lvl 70+, without leave any raid boss fun to low level clans or ramdon partys.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: zocha on June 11, 2014, 08:41:10 AM
+1 for server down wile im on vacation, wont lose much ;)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2fast4you on June 11, 2014, 09:13:12 AM
I just dont belive what you ppl posts here...
You are crying couse someone is better organized than you and you cant kill any single RB ?
Maybe you had to long break  from L2 and you forgot that L2 since c3 to Gracia (never played c1,c2) is all about getting something before someone ealse gets it and then lough about it. You wanna have pvp zones, porting to town zones, not getting your ass kicked zones... wtf ? If you wanna play L2 for oldboys go and play fuucking Lindvior where you farm at instances and noone except you and your clanmates cant fuuck up your day... When i read topics like that im only more aware of that how manny pusssies we have on server...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 11, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
I just can't get one thing straight... Why ppl like Falat who already left server are here for the trolling ? Why ppl like him who dont give a fvck about the server or about the ppl playing on it are not banned yet ? :/
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 11, 2014, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: Damjan on June 11, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
I just can't get one thing straight... Why ppl like Falat who already left server are here for the trolling ? Why ppl like him who dont give a fvck about the server or about the ppl playing on it are not banned yet ? :/
He is.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Teh noob on June 11, 2014, 12:13:24 PM
id like to see pvp events like old times coliseum ones. about the "issue" with the raids list imho its better thatway - the big teams on nm always had avant-garde squads guarding key spots on the epics (and if teh "dj"says he will camp f.e. refugee hopeless leo...thats nonsence). in nm increasing the level of certain "abandoned" areas proved to be usefull, u should think about that , too.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Simao on June 11, 2014, 12:22:55 PM
And the never ending story goes on and on. I really keep fingers crossed that you guys can pull it through but having said that I think that Archeage (which I personally dont like at all) could be a last nail to this coffin.

That way or another I wish you all luck.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
Vote reward system:

You GMs are saying, that more ppl should be enough reward for us players. Well, at ideal world you would be right. But that ideal world is same one, as the one where GMs are always on, server is always ON, no bugs, no exploits. I think that world belongs to science-fiction area. In real world you have to stimulate players to vote same as players have to donate to stimulate your efforts. Anyway also I played at several servers with vote rewards and there was always benefits from it at both server and client sides. It also makes working ppl happy because they can earn something ingame even when they cant log in because they are at work.


Events:

From PVP events I would like to see Korean TVT, in my eyes its really funny format. Also I would like to see some good farm event, last one didnt turned too well (problems with making it work, tons of keys farmed, 6 hours to open 1k chests cos huge key reuse time).


Tatoos and pots:

I would enable common craft/laboratory usage to create at least Acu3, Haste2, WW2, Greater HP pots. It could bring another commodity to farm/craft/sell.
Also I would be glad, if you could rethink "shadow" tatoo system. You reasoned with me before, saying that it keeps circulation of lower materials at server. Maybe a bit, but we still have 10k+ those low mats at WH, so it doesnt work much that way. If you want find usage for those low mats you can get your inspiration from GoD chronicle with its Aden construction manager. Also managing those tatoos is pain because at WH/Tatoo laboratory dialogue you dont see shadow timer on your actual tatoos so you dont know if you are storing/upgrading tatoo with 1/300 or 300/300 charges (if you have 2 of same kind in inventory I mean).

Spoil:

One of the most expected things for me when I heard about new DN server was: "Yay, I can again bring few my friends again and spoil S recipes at FOG!!". Well, kind of dissapointment when I found its not implemented here. It was giving that place whole new level. Now FOG is just 3-4 spots for exp-trains. Also Im convinced that with reasonable spoil chances it wouldnt harm economy in any way and it could bring fun for more ppl than those 3-4 destros + buffpets/leachers there now.


Ty for reading my tl;dr :p
cya
Trp
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rufus on June 11, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
Quote from: Trp on June 11, 2014, 12:26:40 PM


Spoil:

One of the most expected things for me when I heard about new DN server was: "Yay, I can again bring few my friends again and spoil S recipes at FOG!!". Well, kind of dissapointment when I found its not implemented here. It was giving that place whole new level. Now FOG is just 3-4 spots for exp-trains. Also Im convinced that with reasonable spoil chances it wouldnt harm economy in any way and it could bring fun for more ppl than those 3-4 destros + buffpets/leachers there now.


(http://x1.fjcdn.com/comments/Drawn+_ed5f414b72e0a89697ca005e4fd8382e.jpg)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: Rufus on June 11, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
(http://x1.fjcdn.com/comments/Drawn+_ed5f414b72e0a89697ca005e4fd8382e.jpg)

Not trolling, I spent best of my times at C4/IL Infinity and our clan had good times at fog spoiling draco recipes and pvping for spots. Anyway im not claiming its best or it will solve server problems, its just feature I liked. And it reflects one fact: Many old DN players came here in expectations of fresh DN server. I mean same system, fresh start. I saw a lot of dissapointment with tatoos, spoil, potions, nerfs which wasnt there back than.

PS: If you dissagre, point out reason, everyone can post Fry without any explanations.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: Naiz on June 11, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Blablabla it won't change anything blablabla

And this post will change what exatly? :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: juurnieks on June 11, 2014, 02:34:43 PM
For Voting Reward!

I have idea, i think its not even bad idea....

Mby Vote reward can be some kind buff scrools... Like 5votes and at special NPC can get buff scrool...
but only that scrools not useable in oly or smtg like that.....
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Skajler160 on June 11, 2014, 02:37:22 PM
Create mana potions though that small any magician would be able to play like that alone for exp gain and pvp. Since the tattoos themselves are not enough. It is proposed to do the test for ne/ bp and see how long a mane during pvp. ;)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rufus on June 11, 2014, 02:43:46 PM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 11, 2014, 02:37:22 PM
Create mana potions though that small any magician would be able to play like that alone for exp gain and pvp. Since the tattoos themselves are not enough. It is proposed to do the test for ne/ bp and see how long a mane during pvp. ;)

Yea mages cannot play w/o mana pots !
Mana pots was the best thing NC soft create evah !
Bish w/o mana pots cant heal !
Eat all Your vegetables !

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: juurnieks on June 11, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
+to all hwo wants mana Pots..
Its stupid iff mage need use tattoo for mana, while fighter use tattoo for atk.spd or p.attack..
why mage cant use c.speed or m,attack tattoo.... its freaky unfair fro mages..
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: juurnieks on June 11, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
+to all hwo wants mana Pots..
Its stupid iff mage need use tattoo for mana, while fighter use tattoo for atk.spd or p.attack..
why mage cant use c.speed or m,attack tattoo.... its freaky unfair fro mages..
ee/es lfp
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kapsel on June 11, 2014, 03:04:56 PM
imo:
remove goe- it's a bad joke
remove horn shards
add reward for votes (shards? vials? etc)
no pvp zones
upgrade for hellbound

if there is no place to farm, there is no chance for pvp, simple as it is. introducing dyna stuff and elemental stones would probably add some action, iop for 1v1 to 2v2 and hellboud for 5v5 - 9v9.
i think server died due to fw and syndi game attitude. avoid all wars and farm in peace, and then, after months occupy giran stairs. i assure you, no1 is going to wait 2-3h on bs till you gather full party and quit after 1 or 2 fights.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lFreak on June 11, 2014, 03:06:20 PM
We want mana potions on this archers server!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: juurnieks on June 11, 2014, 02:53:36 PM
+to all hwo wants mana Pots..
Its stupid iff mage need use tattoo for mana, while fighter use tattoo for atk.spd or p.attack..
why mage cant use c.speed or m,attack tattoo.... its freaky unfair fro mages..

I dont hate idea of mana pots at all but...

Our mage CP never run out of mana when we use Magnus chant, without it, we can stand long time before mana ends at PVP/PVE. At last Valakas attempt we was shooting nonstop for 2 hours and mana was OK.

About single player.... I farm a lot at Varka with my Sh/Bd on acu tatoo perma on. With this mana herb drop rate I never run out of mana and I mean never.

So only reason for QQ for mana pots is not being able to solo farm Fog/cata or any other locs without herb drops. Frankly its ok since those locations are ment for party playing and not solo farm.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: djvancho on June 11, 2014, 03:37:08 PM
-1 for mana pots and other pots only take bufslots this is not h5 server with more buffslots
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Morel on June 11, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Quote from: Trp on June 11, 2014, 12:26:40 PM
Vote reward system:

...
Events:

....

Tatoos and pots:

....

Spoil:

.....
Ty for reading my tl;dr :p
cya
Trp

Good post with interesting ideas, however....

Spoil - you can farm s-grade recs on varka/ketra. Dunno from what clan are you, but accept wars and pvp will find you on your xp spot, just dont hide in some dark corners of varka ;>

Tattoos/M pots - atm it is just fine, make 4 lvl/empower mana burst and you can farm easly. Clar + magnus + ee/es in party and its almost impossible to be out of mana in 80% of pvp. But still i hope for tattoo +PDEF/-MDEF ;FFF

Vote rewards - I told months ago that there should be funny hats + funny shields as rewards. They change nothing in gameplay but makes ur char more customizable. Maybe add that horn shards as well, so it will be helpfull for new players (if they are new players :o)

Events - Hide & seek best event ever  (no irony :D )

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Nasar on June 11, 2014, 04:52:05 PM
-1 for mana pots

learn use tattos !!!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Gardax on June 11, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
y0,

1.   Vote system. I know that Gm's are afriad of that system becouse some players can try to exploit it, and vote from many ip etc. When I was playing on other L2OFF server, there was a vote system with rewards like: Color nick, hats and other small things. I think it will not ruin servers economy if you let players to get tattos, vial of epic or quest horn (for many votes â€" 80+ per account). So I mean add only things that are not tradeable (hats like from event â€" you can use only on 1 char).
2.   Tatto system and mana. Really I dont like it. I was playing many years on Dragpn x 15 and there is better system. Often I play as BD/PR and on mass pvp changeing tattos many times to get mana make me sick. So I understand why mages are „crying”. Mana pots + that tattos but not shadow in my opinion is best way. Ofc I’m able to play on that system but I only say what’s better for me.
3.   Other pots. So I like it. Combat haste potion is awsome. :D I understand players who don’t want that becouse of buff slots but always you can use chp instead of other buff (for example in archer pt accuary).
4.   SesameStreet2 is the best pvp clan ever <3

Gardax.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 06:15:25 PM
Quote from: Morel on June 11, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Good post with interesting ideas, however....

Spoil - you can farm s-grade recs on varka/ketra. Dunno from what clan are you, but accept wars and pvp will find you on your xp spot, just dont hide in some dark corners of varka ;>


Well atm im at warclan but still not see many wartags at varka, actually not many ppl at all. Anyway im farmer and i know it, i dont complain about that.
Varka is so boring, and playing dwarf a bit too because thanx to manor system i can spoil only db/am/tts parts and enchants. Everything else make me income like 2kk~ per buff which sux hard. At old DN i had lot of fun because spoiler was WANTED class to party for S grade recipe spoiling. IDK how it was at other DN servers, but at infinity rates was ok and there wasnt any flood of S recipes at market. Actually S armors/accesories had more balanced price. Here party can use high lvl spoiler maybe when they need craft TTs sets. :(
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 07:47:03 PM
Oh god damn it leave it like from beginning. What for change something ? The problem is not serv im glad that i play there and im enjoy it. Im always have fun even im on dual box and wolfs killing golkonda with 2 pt (or we killing with 8 ppl on dual box frintezza:)) :D im lose and come back again :D

Brgds
Creslin

btw did you see me or 90% or my clan m8 to flame ? :P no what for :D my wife bla bla bla bla all the time at home :D

Oww and ofc i played on shadow server with all the pots its overpowerd i think better stay like this. Tyr/destro witchout totems on frenazy and zealot rox. For me everything is balanced here.

Anyone  from shadow ? :P

brgds again cya in game :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: PingBomb on June 11, 2014, 07:55:59 PM
+1 for mana pots it's not only archers server. Also think a little about mages ! What about the m/crit why it's so reduced ???
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
mana pots not necessary :)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: remeron on June 11, 2014, 08:38:42 PM
Quote from: XxCAH9IxX on June 11, 2014, 04:52:05 PM
-1 for mana pots

learn use tattos !!!

has it ever occurred to u that some don't wana bother with switching tattoos?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: remeron on June 11, 2014, 08:39:46 PM
Quote from: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
mana pots not necessary :)

daggers and mages need it more...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: cestyany on June 11, 2014, 08:43:32 PM
- 1 to mp pots, buy mats and buy tatoos they r op.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quotedaggers and mages need it more...

EE/SWS EE/SPS will help :D SE/BD , SE/TK will help that why we got sub stucks :D

and btw tatoose will help as well :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: juurnieks on June 11, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Why no1 understand my idea why need mana pots?

u all are rlly dumb?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
meybe :D i dont know for me no need it :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: PunkeD on June 11, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
Taking RB list is a good ideia for sure it will increase pvp.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: djvancho on June 11, 2014, 09:09:05 PM
put teleport in GoE in lower floor i have headage when i go in circle 2 min before go to pvp spot
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 09:17:36 PM
rb list is stupid :D But what i can do :D we got it :D

I remmber when i wrote on my notes when rb dies. Now everyone can go on website. Ow today hallate, kernon, golkonda and baium nice day to camp.......... Fuk it somedays i need to kamp 1 week to take some shit :D

brgds

btw punked noob :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Morel on June 11, 2014, 09:31:36 PM
And how deleting rb list will increase pvp ?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
no, will increase engagement.......'

Now a days increase farmmmmm for some of a players...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lol on June 11, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Quote from: Morel on June 11, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Events - Hide & seek best event ever  (no irony :D )

Aint that bad, but Track needs to figure out some new locations, I remember how he hide on 'd1ck' in dragon valley - he used it both in Nightmare and Tarantula. :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 11, 2014, 09:47:29 PM
QuoteAint that bad, but Track needs to figure out some new locations, I remember how he hide on 'd1ck' in dragon valley - he used it both in Nightmare and Tarantula. :D

lol
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Skajler160 on June 11, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
People are afraid to mana potions as it would an added + 1000 to m.ataku or casting speed. Tattoo NOT a substitute for mana, which turns glad p.atak tattoo and tattoo magician turns to restore mana? I think I kidding. Stop talking silly that tattoo = mana potion. BECAUSE THIS IS THE BALANCE -1 mag 1 warrior on what not to look.
+MANA POTION
+MANA POTION
+MANA POTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: enemy on June 11, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
NO MANA POTS did u ever heard about mana burst tatto for fck sake make it lvl 4 and done + take a support like ee/sws se/bd done lol....
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lol on June 11, 2014, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 11, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
People are afraid to mana potions as it would an added + 1000 to m.ataku or casting speed. Tattoo NOT a substitute for mana, which turns glad p.atak tattoo and tattoo magician turns to restore mana? I think I kidding. Stop talking silly that tattoo = mana potion. BECAUSE THIS IS THE BALANCE -1 mag 1 warrior on what not to look.
+MANA POTION
+MANA POTION
+MANA POTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know how to tell you this, but there wont be mana potions, and I hope it will stay this way.

PS This is pretty funny for me - you made here 6 posts and all are about... mana potions. Grow up and learn new things.

PS2 You guys just ruined another topic with your OT. GJ!

New idea for server:
There should be added 'browser-market' so people could play in work :D More site traffic = greater chance that someone would hit a vote link :P

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 10:42:42 PM
is not fair for mages.
in pvp tattoo for mp is truly useless...
and also is not a reply - go create SE or EE
no ppl will make 1 char to carry it as a bag to lend only 1 skill time by time...

do not bullsh1t...  mana potion with furs in ivory tower like it was in past was good



Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 11, 2014, 10:44:21 PM
Majority of people are just so lazy these times that they need support/ giving a help hand all the time. Without straight directions what to do they simple get lost and then they cry at forum.  People are just too lazy to use a brain and solve problems nowadays by themselves, it's easier to write about it on forum and wait for a response. Sad but true :/
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Stormix88 on June 11, 2014, 10:52:56 PM
i want buffer with all buffs in town.
gm shop with no grades to b grades.

all buffs for 2 hours.
rates x1000 and substack.

i want get some fun. i realized that now when the server is off i can waste 10 weeks collecting items and then ? server off for dunno how long and dunno if with wipe.

give me back arena with 1000 rates ! :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
Quote from: 2nFear on June 11, 2014, 10:44:21 PM
Majority of people are just so lazy these times that they need support/ giving a help hand all the time. Without straight directions what to do they simple get lost and then they cry at forum.  People are just too lazy to use a brain and solve problems nowadays by themselves, it's easier to write about it on forum and wait for a response. Sad but true :/

lol lazy?  i have more adena and more level in oficial than tarantula
how can that be if here have dinamic and bigger rates ??
( and i play solo here and there too )
R.O.F.L
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 11, 2014, 11:07:43 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
lol lazy?  i have more adena and more level in oficial than tarantula
how can that be if here have dinamic and bigger rates ??
( and i play solo here and there too )
R.O.F.L
Why do u talk about official ? I don't wanna be rude but I can say I have more money in rl than you without even knowing you but does it really matter? We're on dragon forum so don't talk about other servers, thanks
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 11:13:32 PM
Quote from: 2nFear on June 11, 2014, 11:07:43 PM
Why do u talk about official ? I don't wanna be rude but I can say I have more money in rl than you without even knowing you but does it really matter? We're on dragon forum so don't talk about other servers, thanks

take it easy you're not rude you are naive... rly rly naive  lol...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 11:17:56 PM
Quote from: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
ee/es lfp
dont mana pots pls, dont want my dagger and mages to get nerfed to the ground as it used to be. no chp stack yet ppl are crying about archers , u guys seriously go watch some frapses from Lineage2 servers instead of this stackub lifestyle, yo

btw this is like the most balanced stacksub I ever played on (been playing on ALL of them).
gj, if u only didn't kill it before opening with those rates. (as I told zilion times before u did it, yet Drake who never played the actual game knows better, hope u got as much $ as u expected )

also some spoilin recs n sh it  wouldn change anything, ive been several times running near u , never ever got your flags back, u just claim how cool u are and that I got to pk u to have some fun.
yep mentality changed u all think u are gods. yet u never even  played Lineage2, yet u are farming 5th month and got no ballz to pvp (best example everyday on % chat  laserPUSSY yo. 20pvp count on 5hero chars)

//popcorn waitin the post to get deletled for sayin the truth
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Morel on June 11, 2014, 11:21:18 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 10:42:42 PM
is not fair for mages.
in pvp tattoo for mp is truly useless...
and also is not a reply - go create SE or EE
no ppl will make 1 char to carry it as a bag to lend only 1 skill time by time...

do not bullsh1t...  mana potion with furs in ivory tower like it was in past was good

I have been playing here as nuker  from beginning - never had problem with mana

learn how to make pt / where to exp solo
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 11, 2014, 10:42:42 PM
is not fair for mages.
in pvp tattoo for mp is truly useless...
and also is not a reply - go create SE or EE
no ppl will make 1 char to carry it as a bag to lend only 1 skill time by time...

do not bullsh1t...  mana potion with furs in ivory tower like it was in past was good
you realize motherfukin tatoo gives u more mana than previous potions right?
2. noone says to make SE/EE, go find clan and go pve together
3. l2p its gettin boring, those topics of 200% clueless ppl
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 11, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 11:17:56 PM

also some spoilin recs n sh it  wouldn change anything, ive been several times running near u , never ever got your flags back, u just claim how cool u are and that I got to pk u to have some fun.


not sure if you are talking to me, but since i came up with spoiling recs i guess so.

actually not, i never saw you running near me, you definately didnt flagged me so i could flag back, i dont claim im cool and you never pked me. Only what i admit is that i am farmer, i like it, thats why i play dwarf for 8 years. Welcome to MMORPG where you can be whatever you want, not ONLY PVPer.

Any more questions ?

cheers
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Oo on June 11, 2014, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: Trp on June 11, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
not sure if you are talking to me, but since i came up with spoiling recs i guess so.

actually not, i never saw you running near me, you definately didnt flagged me so i could flag back, i dont claim im cool and you never pked me. Only what i admit is that i am farmer, i like it, thats why i play dwarf for 8 years. Welcome to MMORPG where you can be whatever you want, not ONLY PVPer.

Any more questions ?

cheers

+1 my little friend xD
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
Quote from: HeroAW on June 11, 2014, 11:24:59 PM
you realize motherfukin tatoo gives u more mana than previous potions right?
2. noone says to make SE/EE, go find clan and go pve together
3. l2p its gettin boring, those topics of 200% clueless ppl

dude whos going to switch tatto casting for mp reg in middle of pvp

chill the fk out...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2014, 06:52:37 AM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
dude whos going to switch tatto casting for mp reg in middle of pvp

chill the fk out...

Im dagger and im changing tattoo in the middle of pvp and i dont have any problem with it.
Also i need to say that if i would have mana pots, my char will be op
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: gosu12 on June 12, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
PLz dont make foking mana potions,tato its ok,and go exp 80 level your ee,and use skill to reus mana gl hf,btw 36h off,how long nygy?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 12:28:57 AM
dude whos going to switch tatto casting for mp reg in middle of pvp

chill the fk out...


Quote from: Rufus on June 12, 2014, 06:52:37 AM
Im dagger and im changing tattoo in the middle of pvp and i dont have any problem with it.
Also i need to say that if i would have mana pots, my char will be op

im talking bout mages mister pvp

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:09:21 PM

im talking bout mages mister pvp

U need to switch mp regen to cast, i need to switch crt power to mp regen, so wheres the difference mister farmalot?
and believe me, dagger lose his mana faster than mage lol.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Rufus on June 12, 2014, 01:15:20 PM
U need to switch mp regen to cast, i need to switch crt power to mp regen, so wheres the difference mister farmalot?
and believe me, dagger lose his mana faster than mage lol.

i also have dagger and it doesnt bothers me the mp neither i dont loss the mp easy

but any OL  or support like SWS o BD  will hav a pissing off time playing like that

if you dont understand the fact of beeing in a fight where you need a potion
and not a per sec mp reg bcz taking off casting tattoo will lead you to die

but is ok, is very complicated for you to understand i think is beyond your comprension

nevermind
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 12, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
i also have dagger and it doesnt bothers me the mp neither i dont loss the mp easy

but any OL  or support like SWS o BD  will hav a pissing off time playing like that

if you dont understand the fact of beeing in a fight where you need a potion
and not a per sec mp reg bcz taking off casting tattoo will lead you to die

but is ok, is very complicated for you to understand i think is beyond your comprension

nevermind
I'm playing with OL/WC, I need to rebuff even few times in PVP/PVE, I'm using debuffs, cp and I don't have any problems with mana. It's really not so hard to switch tattoos. You just need a brain and then try to use it. It's really good feeling.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:38:30 PM
Quote from: 2nFear on June 12, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
I'm playing with OL/WC, I need to rebuff even few times in PVP/PVE, I'm using debuffs, cp and I don't have any problems with mana. It's really not so hard to switch tattoos. You just need a brain and then try to use it. It's really good feeling.

as i said nevermind, wont be me playing alone w8 for never arriving new players

laterz or good bye as u preffer
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 12, 2014, 01:42:53 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:38:30 PM
as i said nevermind, wont be me playing alone w8 for never arriving new players

laterz or good bye as u preffer
So maybe little advice for you. You can upgrade tattoes, it's more than 1lvl of every one of it
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Rufus on June 12, 2014, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:23:53 PM
i also have dagger and it doesnt bothers me the mp neither i dont loss the mp easy

but any OL  or support like SWS o BD  will hav a pissing off time playing like that

if you dont understand the fact of beeing in a fight where you need a potion
and not a per sec mp reg bcz taking off casting tattoo will lead you to die

but is ok, is very complicated for you to understand i think is beyond your comprension

nevermind

its not my problem that Ur playing Plains walker pvp with +5 str dye all the time using /attack... ::)
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 12, 2014, 03:00:29 PM
Quote from: HerrMayer on June 12, 2014, 01:23:53 PM

if you dont understand the fact of beeing in a fight where you need a potion
and not a per sec mp reg bcz taking off casting tattoo will lead you to die



at first, its not the fact, its your theory.

at second, DNet mana pots always was mp per tick too, if you expect 1 click = 300 mp instantly than i have bad news for you...


Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: pmfun on June 12, 2014, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: Trp on June 12, 2014, 03:00:29 PM
at second, DNet mana pots always was mp per tick too, if you expect 1 click = 300 mp instantly than i have bad news for you...

not always
in the beginning they were instant
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: rybster on June 12, 2014, 04:09:17 PM
true. if i remember it was on c3?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Why the fvck you want mana tatoo ? :O I'm playing mage( sh/ps) and in the 90 % of the cases I HAVE MANA ! As Morela said you should know where to farm solo where in pt ... As Scary said YOU SHOULD RECRUIT EE/SE IN CLAN. Coz Lineage 2 isnt solo game guys( no matter what style you have in the game) .
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 12, 2014, 05:01:55 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Why the fvck you want mana tatoo ? :O I'm playing mage( sh/ps) and in the 90 % of the cases I HAVE MANA ! As Morela said you should know where to farm solo where in pt ... As Scary said YOU SHOULD RECRUIT EE/SE IN CLAN. Coz Lineage 2 isnt solo game guys( no matter what style you have in the game) .
101%
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: abusinG on June 12, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Why the fvck you want mana tatoo ? :O I'm playing mage( sh/ps) and in the 90 % of the cases I HAVE MANA ! As Morela said you should know where to farm solo where in pt ... As Scary said YOU SHOULD RECRUIT EE/SE IN CLAN. Coz Lineage 2 isnt solo game guys( no matter what style you have in the game) .

wow just ... wow

+1 for this guy
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: remeron on June 12, 2014, 06:59:48 PM

xx/song  xx/bd combos suffers the most among all from this no mana pot bsness. especialy sws...

I too would'nt have problems mana-wise playing with a sh/ps .....try a sps/sws, it takes effort switching tattoo, waiting to song in right time etc..., and I don't feel up to it everytime like I used to...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
ADD EE IN PT. Problem isnt solved ?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: remeron on June 12, 2014, 07:03:19 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
ADD EE IN PT. Problem isnt solved ?

genious
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 07:10:55 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
Why the fvck you want mana tatoo ? :O I'm playing mage( sh/ps) and in the 90 % of the cases I HAVE MANA ! As Morela said you should know where to farm solo where in pt ... As Scary said YOU SHOULD RECRUIT EE/SE IN CLAN. Coz Lineage 2 isnt solo game guys( no matter what style you have in the game) .
noob ppl qq then why create mana? Are not you missing mana what's the problem that it will add one? Your comments are so stupid that injury to sound like you can compare a tattoo to many ... stupid idiots idiots everywhere
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Jesus....Why dont you go and play some fun x 100 server ? You have mana pots ( on toggle) to not use the small brain to click on the pot. :/ So as far as i know... you are ne/bp, and you wanna hit like ne and heal like bp and have mana for all ? You are on wrong server dude..
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Vives on June 12, 2014, 08:59:31 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Jesus....Why dont you go and play some fun x 100 server ? You have mana pots ( on toggle) to not use the small brain to click on the pot. :/ So as far as i know... you are ne/bp, and you wanna hit like ne and heal like bp and have mana for all ? You are on wrong server dude..
can you explain me why most players are archers or orcs?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
Coz of the myth archers >>>>> mages ? Isnt that obvious ?
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Fiorella on June 12, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
Coz of the myth archers >>>>> mages ? Isnt that obvious ?


Naab!!!


Not only for that, if you see towns you can see many HE, and just few (very few) SR or PR
because only HE/XX use less mana than magues, so you can use ogree tatto instead Mana Tatto ( a Big difference on pvp).

SR/SWS and PR/BD need a lot of mana to give songs/dance (Almost 70% - 80% of all mp) so after songs/dance we had to use mana tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 at least, to can handle any PVP while we help on pvp and at the same time recover mana to resongs/dance.

Would be good if the rate of restore mana from Tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 will increase a little more, instead put mana pots.

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
+1 Fio but im quiting server the first time i see mana pots on it, im sure of that. Ofc mana tatoo can be more powerfull or smt like that, everyone would like to have tatoo which regenerates more mp, but my point is EE/SE solves all mana problems :/ With magnus and EE in pt sometimes i hit on double arcanas...w/o any mana issue... you know my char ..
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: HeroAW on June 12, 2014, 10:12:21 PM
Quote from: Fiorella on June 12, 2014, 09:36:22 PM

Naab!!!


Not only for that, if you see towns you can see many HE, and just few (very few) SR or PR
because only HE/XX use less mana than magues, so you can use ogree tatto instead Mana Tatto ( a Big difference on pvp).

SR/SWS and PR/BD need a lot of mana to give songs/dance (Almost 70% - 80% of all mp) so after songs/dance we had to use mana tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 at least, to can handle any PVP while we help on pvp and at the same time recover mana to resongs/dance.

Would be good if the rate of restore mana from Tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 will increase a little more, instead put mana pots.
archer pt w/o ee is nice.  oh wait its dn, u got no clue :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: blink on June 12, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
+1 Damjan
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 08:33:08 PM
Jesus....Why dont you go and play some fun x 100 server ? You have mana pots ( on toggle) to not use the small brain to click on the pot. :/ So as far as i know... you are ne/bp, and you wanna hit like ne and heal like bp and have mana for all ? You are on wrong server dude..
the old DN x15 was mana and nobody cried like you now kurwa ... explain to everyone why there is no mage pvp? BECAUSE THERE IS NO BALANCE. Server bal for all worrior ...
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on June 12, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
the old DN x15 was mana and nobody cried like you now kurwa ... explain to everyone why there is no mage pvp? BECAUSE THERE IS NO BALANCE. Server bal for all worrior ...
What stops mages to have mana in pvp? Unless you press f1-12 randomly?

You know ncsoft made EE with the reason else lets delete all classes and put all in one....
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 12, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
QuoteWhat stops mages to have mana in pvp? Unless you press f1-12 randomly?

+1

As i saw on some mass pvp enclave + exi vs wolf etc... Exi was the best with that i never saw that they dont have mana...

brgds
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: MyDrama on June 12, 2014, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 12, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
What stops mages to have mana in pvp? Unless you press f1-12 randomly?
what stops?mb being retarded
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: creslinth on June 12, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Quotewhat stops?mb being retarded

eeee????
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: reddragonjr on June 12, 2014, 10:56:15 PM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
the old DN x15 was mana and nobody cried like you now kurwa ... explain to everyone why there is no mage pvp? BECAUSE THERE IS NO BALANCE. Server bal for all worrior ...
Endless heal and dmg dream on mate....
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 12, 2014, 11:11:18 PM
About this mana pots... i think we cant argue anymore, everything is said. 2-3 ppl crying about mana (some guy wanna hit like necro and heal like bp Oo ). You are on the wrong server guys. :/
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kramligz on June 12, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: Fiorella on June 12, 2014, 09:36:22 PM

Naab!!!


Not only for that, if you see towns you can see many HE, and just few (very few) SR or PR
because only HE/XX use less mana than magues, so you can use ogree tatto instead Mana Tatto ( a Big difference on pvp).

SR/SWS and PR/BD need a lot of mana to give songs/dance (Almost 70% - 80% of all mp) so after songs/dance we had to use mana tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 at least, to can handle any PVP while we help on pvp and at the same time recover mana to resongs/dance.

Would be good if the rate of restore mana from Tatto burst lvl 3 - 4 will increase a little more, instead put mana pots.

I felt what you felt bro. It's very hard to do pvp when you are always checking songs/dances and mana. Of course all blame to you when your party is dead because of no dances and songs. Track maybe some little modification on this type of class. Very large of mana will consume when you do songs or dances even me(sws) and dancer are cast simultaneously  . No burst of mana = failed. It's really really bad on my ass doing this every time.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: lol on June 13, 2014, 12:15:35 AM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
the old DN x15 was mana and nobody cried like you now kurwa ... explain to everyone why there is no mage pvp? BECAUSE THERE IS NO BALANCE. Server bal for all worrior ...

WAT?

There is no pvp at all... in your cave. :D And that would explain few things. Visit video corner, or type on YT 'tarantula' whatever you will find there are mostly mages.

Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 13, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
I think if you can make pt with full nuke power ( 9 HE/WK ) you will be very satisfied..Who the fvck needs dancers, songers, buffers ,bps...Just put NPCs in towns with 2 hours buffs, mana pots (on toggle ofc ) and lets go pvp 9 he/wk vs 9 sh/ps !
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Kabally on June 13, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
YA 9 HE WK VS 9 WTV /PS

GOOGOGO
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kapsel on June 13, 2014, 12:40:25 AM
Back on topic

imo 5v5 - since its stacksub, so its like 10 classes in 5 chars. with following rules:
(1)forbiden skills with reuse time of 30m+ (means no hero skills, no 80lv skills, no salva, no soul of phoenix - don't want to wait 1h before next round)
(2)all pots allowed
(3)res skill/scroll allowed
(4)all tatoos allowed
(5)all eqip +++ allowed
(6)10m timelimit, if none of teams are down number of frags decides (needs 2 judges, each for a party)
(7)custom npc shop with all pots/shots/ options to refill hp/mp/cp before fight starts
(8)custom pvp zone as arena (a bit larger than coli with few obstacles - maybe first room of pagan temple?)
(9) noblesse buff allowed
(10)out of party buffers not allowed

party builds are very limited, yet it is possible to get full buff + bish. not many dd/tanks tho
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: alfy on June 13, 2014, 01:37:09 AM
Quote from: Skajler160 on June 12, 2014, 10:13:48 PM
the old DN x15 was mana and nobody cried like you now kurwa ... explain to everyone why there is no mage pvp? BECAUSE THERE IS NO BALANCE. Server bal for all worrior ...
If you says this you're really naab becouse with a mage if you play well you can kill any class
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: rivotril on June 13, 2014, 01:54:14 AM
Quote from: =^TrackZero^= on June 12, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
What stops mages to have mana in pvp? Unless you press f1-12 randomly?

You know ncsoft made EE with the reason else lets delete all classes and put all in one....

there is no way that they understand that there is insufficient mana
you are used to playing with warriors
you are square in that direction.
Who plays with SE stuck in the ass ..
I have a lvl 76 SH Horn and is not useful. I feel bad but I do not understand
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: kapsel on June 13, 2014, 03:23:19 AM
cut that mana crap already.
if you do 100 dmg every hit, sure, you will be lacking mana. but mana potions wont help you.
it's obvious that mana management is important skill, so don't try cut other's edge and make it irrelevant.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 13, 2014, 08:18:39 AM
Quote from: rivotril on June 13, 2014, 01:54:14 AM
there is no way that they understand that there is insufficient mana
you are used to playing with warriors
you are square in that direction.
Who plays with SE stuck in the ass ..
I have a lvl 76 SH Horn and is not useful. I feel bad but I do not understand

make me understand please.
I have 79 lvl SH/BD, farming varka a lot. I can kill 2 hours in row without single problem with mana. On acu tatoo. Just pick up herbs.
Other my toon is SWS/EE. Mana burst tatoo + arcane wisdom + 5min S grade mp pots + invocation and run out of mana at pagan each 2 buffs.
Our mage CP (ye, mage, suck it guy which said there are no mage parties here) didnt run out of mana for single moment in 2 hours hitting valakas. You need only magnus chant.

I see real problems here:
1. Many ppl dont know how to use current mana items.
2. All of you want do pew pew and not play supports.
3. You expect to be at powerDPS buffs where you have no place for mana saving buffs/songs and then you wonder you are oom. -> go forum and whine about it. 
4. You are too lazy to exp up right supports like EE for clarity and recharge, WC for magnus, SWS for meditation.

Please stop this guys. If you want full DPS buff at your DD/DD mage at solo play without mana problems you really should reconsider joining some high rate.
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Trp on June 13, 2014, 08:25:39 AM
Quote from: kapsel on June 13, 2014, 12:40:25 AM
Back on topic

imo 5v5 - since its stacksub, so its like 10 classes in 5 chars. with following rules:
(1)forbiden skills with reuse time of 30m+ (means no hero skills, no 80lv skills, no salva, no soul of phoenix - don't want to wait 1h before next round)
(2)all pots allowed
(3)res skill/scroll allowed
(4)all tatoos allowed
(5)all eqip +++ allowed
(6)10m timelimit, if none of teams are down number of frags decides (needs 2 judges, each for a party)
(7)custom npc shop with all pots/shots/ options to refill hp/mp/cp before fight starts
(8)custom pvp zone as arena (a bit larger than coli with few obstacles - maybe first room of pagan temple?)
(9) noblesse buff allowed
(10)out of party buffers not allowed

party builds are very limited, yet it is possible to get full buff + bish. not many dd/tanks tho

Not bad idea, only point nr.3 doesnt sound good to me. Good mage party with all subbed to ee/se/bp/pp mean 5x fast ress. Really hard to get such party down entirely. Im not saying impossible but it gives them serious advantage against party with 4 fighters + 1bp/wk. Just my point ;)

Cheers
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: 2nFear on June 13, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Trp on June 13, 2014, 08:18:39 AM
make me understand please.
I have 79 lvl SH/BD, farming varka a lot. I can kill 2 hours in row without single problem with mana. On acu tatoo. Just pick up herbs.
Other my toon is SWS/EE. Mana burst tatoo + arcane wisdom + 5min S grade mp pots + invocation and run out of mana at pagan each 2 buffs.
Our mage CP (ye, mage, suck it guy which said there are no mage parties here) didnt run out of mana for single moment in 2 hours hitting valakas. You need only magnus chant.

I see real problems here:
1. Many ppl dont know how to use current mana items.
2. All of you want do pew pew and not play supports.
3. You expect to be at powerDPS buffs where you have no place for mana saving buffs/songs and then you wonder you are oom. -> go forum and whine about it. 
4. You are too lazy to exp up right supports like EE for clarity and recharge, WC for magnus, SWS for meditation.

Please stop this guys. If you want full DPS buff at your DD/DD mage at solo play without mana problems you really should reconsider joining some high rate.
+10000..0
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Morel on June 13, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: Trp on June 13, 2014, 08:18:39 AM

I see real problems here:
1. Many ppl dont know how to use current mana items.
2. All of you want do pew pew and not play supports.
3. You expect to be at powerDPS buffs where you have no place for mana saving buffs/songs and then you wonder you are oom. -> go forum and whine about it. 
4. You are too lazy to exp up right supports like EE for clarity and recharge, WC for magnus, SWS for meditation.

Please stop this guys. If you want full DPS buff at your DD/DD mage at solo play without mana problems you really should reconsider joining some high rate.

awww man dont give them tips like this ;X
less mages = less ppl buff m def = more pew pew points for me
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Damjan on June 13, 2014, 10:21:18 AM
Quote from: Morel on June 13, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
awww man dont give them tips like this ;X
less mages = less ppl buff m def = more pew pew points for me
Thats it :D Morela rocks  ! :D
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: Francy on June 13, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
Quote from: alfy on June 13, 2014, 01:37:09 AM
If you says this you're really naab becouse with a mage if you play well you can kill any class

+1 Alfy^^
Title: Re: While we are waiting...
Post by: ^Evacuate^ on June 13, 2014, 02:06:30 PM
there will be some important news about voting and events as soon we are able to turn on the server.Thx every1 for your suggestions,stay tuned.