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Title: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 09:55:23 PM
Ello NM ppl ;

Track plz... if you listen to NM noobs that dunno how to play daggers dont apply the same updated on every other server.. or at least in this case infinity, cause now archers/tyrants/glads etc use daggers instead of bows/fists/duals and actually do massive dmg.

A friend is a dager and he can reach 6k p atk... i can reach 7,4 k with bow... so he has 1,4k p atk less then me with a FCKING DAGGER :) and there are no resist buffs for daggers ; for archers you have songs with lame boosted reuse and this incredibly stupid instant dance that makes archers not playable at least on server wher good players play i dunno the case on NM.

Track your doing a great job with other updates but plz when you dicide to nerf/boost chars dont ask random ppl or i dunno how you do it... but seams you have no idea what chars are capable of or what gear/buffs etc they must/can use.

On infinity dagers are the new DE/TY's... with 350 run speed ;

This may work for NM... but it doesnt work for us.... mybe we need a GM like you?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
?
screen pls :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 10:08:33 PM
a few words from zthrx would be welcome, since he being the worst at playing a dagger is the reason for this pathetic update, i can say he for sure sucks even more now, and probably doesn't play for this reason (yes yes and his excuse is "no time to play" or "i have rl", don't even try, we know your rl sucks)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:14:28 PM
no screens will be posted... i can show to the GM if he wants.... i dont want others to find everything out ^^ curently not many dagers are like this :
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:21:48 PM
well...i have not tested it yet on full p atk version.... as th/pp i m around 1600 /1900 with dances
ofc i m not using dyna heavy,+5str and might 10.....

Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:29:12 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 09:55:23 PM
Ello NM ppl ;

Track plz... if you listen to NM noobs that dunno how to play daggers dont apply the same updated on every other server.. or at least in this case infinity, cause now archers/tyrants/glads etc use daggers instead of bows/fists/duals and actually do massive dmg.

A friend is a dager and he can reach 6k p atk... i can reach 7,4 k with bow... so he has 1,4k p atk less then me with a FCKING DAGGER :) and there are no resist buffs for daggers ; for archers you have songs with lame boosted reuse and this incredibly stupid instant dance that makes archers not playable at least on server wher good players play i dunno the case on NM.

Track your doing a great job with other updates but plz when you dicide to nerf/boost chars dont ask random ppl or i dunno how you do it... but seams you have no idea what chars are capable of or what gear/buffs etc they must/can use.

On infinity dagers are the new DE/TY's... with 350 run speed ;

This may work for NM... but it doesnt work for us.... mybe we need a GM like you?

I see just 3 variants.

1. you are retard

2. you are crier

3. your friend has icarus dagger+20 (on max patk settings ofc)

ps. you moron dagger patk boost was only 30%. Orc has 400% patk bonus with frenzy on 2-handed swords and only 50% with all non-orc weapons. I'd rather think its you idiot and noob than believe that orcs or any other non-dagger classes use daggers now.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:29:12 PM
I see just 3 variants.

1. you are retard

2. you are crier

3. your friend has icarus dagger+20 (on max patk settings ofc)

ps. you moron dagger patk boost was only 30%. Orc has 400% patk bonus with frenzy on 2-handed swords and only 50% with all non-orc weapons. I'd rather think its you idiot and noob than believe that orcs or any other non-dagger classes use daggers now.

wrong

(AS+15 :D)

and +1
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
first 2 points correct... :D gz

btw let me guess your a NM player? you probably say omfggg wtf when you see a archer with 2k atk speed :D so plz... this is not a topic for NM people but infinity ones so stfu... only reason why post is made here its couse track doesnt read our section.

and by the chars you play i can just lul at you :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:39:11 PM
RA3n...we have th/glad on infy?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:39:40 PM
yes we do :P
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
:) kk so i bet 1 coin that we got the winner :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
first 2 points correct... :D gz

btw let me guess your a NM player? you probably say omfggg wtf when you see a archer with 2k atk speed :D so plz... this is not a topic for NM people but infinity ones so stfu... only reason why post is made here its couse track doesnt read our section.

and by the chars you play i can just lul at you :D

im dragon player and i post here coz our gms are basically useless. no when I see archer with 2k atk spd i say "lol what an easy frag with monk tattoos" coz w/o ogre tattoos archers hit for shit now on full archer resist buff.

btw judging by your posts and L2 knowledge I can roll full party of same idiots like you on any of my chars.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: FeelmyBow on November 03, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
So far i reached 3k p.atk with dagger, i can reach more. haven't checked with better items + the char wasn't rdy.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
im dragon player and i post here coz our gms are basically useless. no when I see archer with 2k atk spd i say "lol what an easy frag with monk tattoos" coz w/o ogre tattoos archers hit for shit now on full archer resist buff.

btw judging by your posts and L2 knowledge I can roll full party of same idiots like you on any of my chars.

hahhahaha :D i have 2,1k atk speed with ogres ... so your knowlage with l2 is truly amazing
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
well point is: kk u can reach high p atk (mh.....6k as rav3n said seems to me a bit strange but for a sec i can trust him..... for a sec !!!!!)
but with what setting?
if it's a lolsetting like used j4ck to make his signature.... isn't a problem

if to reach that u must have th/glad, +15 s weapon 2x ogre emp might lvl 10 active + passive +5 str dyna heavy and valaks.....
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 10:50:46 PM
Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
well point is: kk u can reach high p atk (mh.....6k as rav3n said seems to me a bit strange but for a sec i can trust him..... for a sec !!!!!)
but with what setting?
if it's a lolsetting like used j4ck to make his signature.... isn't a problem

if to reach that u must have th/glad, +15 s weapon 2x ogre emp might lvl 10 active + passive +5 str dyna heavy and valaks.....
And hero zerk (davy is hero right?) Btw isn't that weapon +16? ;d

Btw if he can reach 6k p attack now then he could get 4.5k before? still nice imo, if i were him i wouldn't use any skills ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 10:53:26 PM
if red is from +16...yes  :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
dag your correct.. but normal dagers can reach 4,5k p atk easily with amazing atk speed 1,7k+ example if your subed TH/PA you will have full resists almost imposible to kill and your every crit will make an avarage of a 5k crit on a normal mage if not more this dagger with 6k p atk makes 10k hits on mages... with normal hits... not skills

with dash and mirage.... and crazy evasion unless your a PA : example shiningete... HE/PP sometimes uses a hero dager instead of a bow now couse of this update ..... hmm i dont think this is normal :D and is actualy owning with it more then most dagers. i dont mind boosting dagers... just for sure not this mutch most of dagers sux anyway :
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
hahhahaha :D i have 2,1k atk speed with ogres ... so your knowlage with l2 is truly amazing

oh wait I didnt see your sig, SR? omg im gonna die from 500 damage crits of 2.1k atk spd... not

first time I hear of a guy who seriously uses rapid fire in mass pvp, even worst noobs on x15 understand its unacceptable to sacrifice 300 range for some atk spd, but you beat them at this!
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
im dragon player and i post here coz our gms are basically useless. no when I see archer with 2k atk spd i say "lol what an easy frag with monk tattoos" coz w/o ogre tattoos archers hit for shit now on full archer resist buff.

btw judging by your posts and L2 knowledge I can roll full party of same idiots like you on any of my chars.
dude if we put all your post together we can conclude you have no idea about l2, but please keep donating so i can play here!
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:56:07 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:54:03 PM
oh wait I didnt see your sig, SR? omg im gonna die from 500 damage crits of 2.1k atk spd... not

first time I hear of a guy who seriously uses rapid fire in mass pvp, even worst noobs on x15 understand its unacceptable to sacrifice 300 range for some atk spd, but you beat them at this!

hehe actualy that sig is old... iam a SR/WL .. with 7,4k p atk like posted.. if those hits are for 500... well gj :D btw why woud i need range for a dager? .. also repid fire is pure ownage ^^
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
dag your correct.. but normal dagers can reach 4,5k p atk easily with amazing atk speed 1,7k+ example if your subed TH/PA you will have full resists almost imposible to kill and your every crit will make an avarage of a 5k crit on a normal mage if not more this dagger with 6k p atk makes 10k hits on mages... with normal hits... not skills

with dash and mirage.... and crazy evasion unless your a PA : example shiningete... HE/PP sometimes uses a hero dager instead of a bow now couse of this update ..... hmm i dont think this is normal :D and is actualy owning with it more then most dagers. i dont mind boosting dagers... just for sure not this mutch most of dagers sux anyway :

dagger weapon does a 30% more critical damage and this 30% affects also dagger skills damage, all dagger classes gets an additional 30% patk when using a dagger

I guess there's little mistake, 30% crit dmg should be like p attack bonus, for daggerers only imo
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
once again..... u confirmed the main problem is not DAGGER, but skills NOT related to daggers :)

as i said i didn't tested well due no time lately..... but if is a real problem solution is etreamly easy this time

remove P atk boost , and increase simply blow damage. (blow not based on p atk so no problem at all)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
dagger weapon does a 30% more critical damage and this 30% affects also dagger skills damage, all dagger classes gets an additional 30% patk when using a dagger

I guess there's little mistake, 30% crit dmg should be like p attack bonus, for daggerers only imo

it works on every class not just dagers

Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
once again..... u confirmed the main problem is not DAGGER, but skills NOT related to daggers :)

as i said i didn't tested well due no time lately..... but if is a real problem solution is etreamly easy this time

remove P atk boost , and increase simply blow damage. (blow not based on p atk so no problem at all)


agree, also critical boost shoud be removed but blows incresed
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:04:39 PM
btw.....
this dagger is still slower than your archer :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:06:01 PM
you have many resists for archers.. non for dagers.. use all and its like i use fists :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:04:39 PM
btw.....
this dagger is still slower than your archer :D

And got max ~1,5k p def cuz of lack of buffslots ;p (he's on final frenzy, am i right? So hp isn't high too :P)

Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:06:39 PM
And got max ~1,5k p def cuz of lack of buffslots ;p (he's on final frenzy, am i right? So hp isn't high too :P)


to not talk of m def :D that p atk = zerk for sure


btw yes, in every case if that p atk is possible... review is needed
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: cristianvernal on November 03, 2009, 11:10:25 PM
lmao, get this guy out of here so he can stop making a fool of himself jahahaha


6k p atack on daggerist?, u believe on what he told u?, santa claus is for real?


Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:10:34 PM
Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
to not talk of m def :D that p atk = zerk for sure


btw yes, in every case if that p atk is possible... review is needed


Yay, such p attack is possible, but price for it is leaving every possible defense buff to get more p attack, also u need special char for it (th|aw|pw/glad) and as+16. Even if such p attack is possible then it's useless (mages will 1-shot him with non-elemental attacks)
As a daggerer you still need to attack from behind, what makes things lil more complicated ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
once again..... u confirmed the main problem is not DAGGER, but skills NOT related to daggers :)

as i said i didn't tested well due no time lately..... but if is a real problem solution is etreamly easy this time

remove P atk boost , and increase simply blow damage. (blow not based on p atk so no problem at all)

i think people who write bullshits should have no rights to have a word in creating the l2 balance >.>
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:12:20 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:06:39 PM
And got max ~1,5k p def cuz of lack of buffslots ;p (he's on final frenzy, am i right? So hp isn't high too :P)



lol you dont need to use many buffs to reach this p atk... daggers have just little usefull buffs you shoudnt have no problem buffing yourselves... and no its not on final frenzy
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:15:35 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:12:20 PM
lol you dont need to use many buffs to reach this p atk... daggers have just little usefull buffs you shoudnt have no problem buffing yourselves... and no its not on final frenzy
Hero zerk then? :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: cristianvernal on November 03, 2009, 11:15:55 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
first 2 points correct... :D gz

btw let me guess your a NM player? you probably say omfggg wtf when you see a archer with 2k atk speed :D so plz... this is not a topic for NM people but infinity ones so stfu... only reason why post is made here its couse track doesnt read our section.

and by the chars you play i can just lul at you :D

then why in god name u come to create the topic here?, u come, insult us and expect to not post?, go back to ur shithole !
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:21:00 PM
i dont insult whole NM just noobs who still cry daggers arent powerfull enough even WITH this update :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 11:10:49 PM
i think people who write bullshits should have no rights to have a word in creating the l2 balance >.>

wild i wasted some hours testing damage difference between -9str and +5 str with PATK buff (not crit damage, simply p atk)

there was no difference

(exactly test was -9 str and b weapon VS +5 str might great might pof and +10 S weapon)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:33:35 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 11:10:49 PM
i think people who write bullshits should have no rights to have a word in creating the l2 balance >.>

Mby he just wanted to say that he has no right to write here? ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 03, 2009, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: wildpussy on November 03, 2009, 10:54:38 PM
dude if we put all your post together we can conclude you have no idea about l2, but please keep donating so i can play here!

I'm still checking your posts in old mana burn topic if I wanna have some laugh

Quote from: Dag on November 03, 2009, 11:00:39 PM
once again..... u confirmed the main problem is not DAGGER, but skills NOT related to daggers :)

as i said i didn't tested well due no time lately..... but if is a real problem solution is etreamly easy this time

remove P atk boost , and increase simply blow damage. (blow not based on p atk so no problem at all)


basic class masteries of non-dagger classes give way better bonus than that 30% patk boost

btw I seriously doubt dagger patk was boosted in general and was not binded to dagger weapon mastery lol
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:33:35 PM
Mby he just wanted to say that he has no right to write here? ;)

how dare you doubt the all knowing WP?  :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 03, 2009, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 11:36:29 PM
how dare you doubt the all knowing WP?  :)
Sorry, i was confused, it won't happend again :<
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: sinarkio on November 04, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
well, i remember i was in pty with this dagger with 6k patk on siege...and he was always saying 4.6k damage to XXXX w/o skill! 5k damage to YYYYY w/o skil! 8k damage to ZZZZZZZ w/o skill....
that's why he said is lie de/ty now...and he have no low m def...no low pdef and since is th/glad he have 5k cp 10k hp, so still hard to take down...imo much better than de/ty

if this is still a dagger playstile, then tell me ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 04, 2009, 12:56:15 AM
if I post SS on MAX possible p.atk settings with AS+10 and my th/pp wont have 6k patk you, infinity fags and criers (not related to normal infinity players), will gtfo from this forum and learn to play, ok?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 01:09:25 AM
Quote from: Alex on November 04, 2009, 12:56:15 AM
if I post SS on MAX possible p.atk settings with AS+10 and my th/pp wont have 6k patk you, infinity fags and criers (not related to normal infinity players), will gtfo from this forum and learn to play, ok?

if you post screen with low stats, it just shows you play wrong class.
read batter th/glad has that p atck
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: windoo on November 04, 2009, 05:07:36 AM
archers were many times pvpin with daggers fe vs tanks.
about that boost it should be applied as 'bonus to high lvl dagger mastery' and it would fix all, about that p atk - nothing were done after that icarus bow got normal atk speed. so...
Normal th/pp th/wk th/pal wont reach that amount of patk.
So what ppl will make th/glads? So they will cut glad skills on daggers ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 06:19:29 AM
Quote from: sinarkio on November 04, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
well, i remember i was in pty with this dagger with 6k patk on siege...and he was always saying 4.6k damage to XXXX w/o skill! 5k damage to YYYYY w/o skil! 8k damage to ZZZZZZZ w/o skill....
that's why he said is lie de/ty now...and he have no low m def...no low pdef and since is th/glad he have 5k cp 10k hp, so still hard to take down...imo much better than de/ty

if this is still a dagger playstile, then tell me ;)

Guys you wanna say that daggers must be nerf cause one guy from infinity that have th/glad with full p atak settings, as+16 have 6k p.atak? Dont be funny.
This is only one guy! Just say to nukers that they should make macro on him and he will not even run into siege zone ;) Same thing like with pal/ty some time ago ;)
About resists to this --> light armor users use ue and he will hit one per 10 hits maybe ;), xx/tanks will get 100% of hits to shields so it will not be so big dmg ;) Ofc sps/ee and something like that will have problem but if they hit 2xm.critics in a row this th will not even run into they ;)
If You say that he run into siege and kills everyone with random hits from dagger you just prove that infinity players are noobs not nm players ;)
Buttlove :*
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Furesy on November 04, 2009, 06:24:13 AM
wow, big deal, I was using dagger on my PR/WL since IL already, AS CD +15 and I 1 hitted most mages with it, even without this dagger boost and stuff lol, and you guys just figured that out? xd
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:56:24 AM
lol AS+CD gz xD

anyway why you all talk about this TH/GLAD? its just a example i use couse hes the best. but its not only him thats this strong... if all daggers config ther chars right it will render dagger skills useless ( and i dont think daggers are ment to be played without any skill usage ) only normal hits will be used and they will own far more then with any skill atm. 4,5k p atk.. 30% boost dmg + Critical woud = gg ; and that goes for every dagger not just TH/GLAD you dont need 6k p atk.. to own... just right configs
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Shreed on November 04, 2009, 10:14:14 AM
Am i wrong or its another topic which proves that playing as archer those days its suicide :) Leave mage/dagger boost as it now or even higher but  nerf blade/wind storm and bring back the oldbuffslots :P
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: AgNeR on November 04, 2009, 10:28:31 AM
stop wining.. :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 09:30:26 AM
hehe trust me that guy wont die so easy xD
if max we can reach is 6k, 4k in pvps resist-buffed, than normal dagger should reach at least 3.5k correct? lets say 3k properly buffed.. and u think this is low? it outdamages any crited blow without using single mana point :D about ur tanks, he crited tank on vengenace for 1.1k xD however who s the idiot to hit sucha targets, biggest problems he occurs to healers, give me ue and ud now :P


For now i saw only ty/de in c6 times with full buff + zealot + frenzy + bizon + rage with 2h blunt in 30%hp (he have more than 20k p.atak but i dont know how much more) that hits pal in venga for ~2k per crit (pal had ~10k p def) so pls show me some screens where I can see that uber dagger hits tank on venga for more thatn 1k per hit so i can belive it :)

Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 04, 2009, 12:08:22 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 01:09:25 AM
if you post screen with low stats, it just shows you play wrong class.
read batter th/glad has that p atck


pp/th has passive weapon mastery from mage class, maybe it was nerfed on 75%, but it still adds something. even if so ill post my SS soon and u can just add 25% to my patk there (war cry lvl 2 patk bonus)

edit:

(http://s16.radikal.ru/i190/0911/a6/0c03d2b513ed.jpg)



as i told add 25% patk from war cry and u get max possible patk TH can have

ps. I seriously doubt any dagger is stupid enough to use ogres instead of monks, +5 STR set up and only dumb non-tank dagger would use heavy, but as I promised I showed you max possible patk. Now quit your bullshit and learn to play. Btw that loser SR cried also that th/glad has 1.7k atk spd? rofl
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: cristianvernal on November 04, 2009, 12:53:36 PM
playin a th with +5str, good dagger, p atack buffs will pwn? is that what u r sayin?
omg, why i didnt thought about this before, i go do it asap!


so my buff bar will be:

1: attack
2: trick
3: switch
4: dash
5: vicius stance
the rest will be empty oO
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 01:10:40 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 04, 2009, 12:08:22 PM
pp/th has passive weapon mastery from mage class, maybe it was nerfed on 75%, but it still adds something. even if so ill post my SS soon and u can just add 25% to my patk there (war cry lvl 2 patk bonus)


mentioned gl/th uses +16 as
you miss at least p atck pot (+10% p atck as i rmember)
add hero skill that adds p atck/ pdef for 2 min - available for ALL around
add hero zerk - available for short list of players (including mentioned gl/th)

so, if you really believe you showed max.... i still believe Davy had more
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 01:12:49 PM
Alex You also forgot about auguments. I mean active p atak and passiv p atak but still 6k its amazing ;)

Edit: Also You forgot about cat buff for p.atak but its usless since critical dmg is way more better ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 04, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 01:12:49 PM
Alex You also forgot about auguments. I mean active p atak and passiv p atak but still 6k its amazing ;)

Edit: Also You forgot about cat buff for p.atak but its usless since critical dmg is way more better ;)
and dyna heavy+valakas
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 01:25:59 PM
Quote from: Dag on November 04, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
and dyna heavy+valakas

He is in dyna heavy and he have valakas :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 04, 2009, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 01:10:40 PM
mentioned gl/th uses +16 as
you miss at least p atck pot (+10% p atck as i rmember)
add hero skill that adds p atck/ pdef for 2 min - available for ALL around
add hero zerk - available for short list of players (including mentioned gl/th)

so, if you really believe you showed max.... i still believe Davy had more

hero valor adds only stable 250 patk and 500 pdef lol, hero zerk adds 500 patk but using it in mass pvp is sick, coz it takes -25% pdef/mdef.

ok and patk potion? if u will have slot for it with all glad/th's self buffs (what i doubt) it adds only 10% patk lol.

I have PP's mage weapon mastery and bonus isnt much worse than difference between AS+10 and AS+16

Quote from: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 01:12:49 PM
Alex You also forgot about auguments. I mean active p atak and passiv p atak but still 6k its amazing ;)

Edit: Also You forgot about cat buff for p.atak but its usless since critical dmg is way more better ;)

yes I dont have augments, ok, they add 10% patk, yes I didnt use patk catbuff because the build of char I had is already a non-sense, who uses max STR, ogre tattoos and heavy on non-tank dagger nowadays lol.

besides with all what people mentioned here (hero skills, patk potion, augments) glad/th also needs to keep slots for war cry, mirage, UE, dash, sonic barrier, focus power. would he have any slot left for resist buffs? going w/o them is kinda dangerous with mages around critting for 8k on buffs w/o resist
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: andreas32 on November 04, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
alex....you are a kido that thinks that he owns the world....but you know shits....everyone mentioned after all your posts that rav3n is talking about TH/GLAD.....that's the 1....
You post screen of th/pp on as+10...big difference with +16...
You are nor fullbuffed...no valor-no flu .......that not worths so much....but we talkign about TH/GLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!
If you will post again that th/pp this and th/pp that ....you'll be the bigest naab of the whole comunitty......that's for sure.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 04, 2009, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: andreas32 on November 04, 2009, 03:04:56 PM
alex....you are a kido that thinks that he owns the world....but you know shits....everyone mentioned after all your posts that rav3n is talking about TH/GLAD.....that's the 1....
You post screen of th/pp on as+10...big difference with +16...
You are nor fullbuffed...no valor-no flu .......that not worths so much....but we talkign about TH/GLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!
If you will post again that th/pp this and th/pp that ....you'll be the bigest naab of the whole comunitty......that's for sure.

They were talking about p attack, not best setup and stats. As i know flu sux when you want to reach top p attack. Anyway i belive he could reach that 6k p attack but he won't own that much (he need to leave everything to reach such p attack). Add that he use focus power  ( -30% crit dmg in front, +60% from back), so finally he will reach that 4.5k on mass pvp and if you're smart enough to keep him in front of you he won't make 8k dmg but 3k (still high, but guess what dmg would make tyr/des with fullbuff :P)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Shreed on November 04, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Track i have only one wish. Can you look here for a moment and kick those "crying infinity band" from our section ?? We have enough NM cryers (including me) to spam general section, we dont need them. And if we dont stop this now The River Of Tears from Infinity/dragon will flood us
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Curtis on November 04, 2009, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: Shreed on November 04, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Track i have only one wish. Can you look here for a moment and kick those "crying infinity band" from our section ?? We have enough NM cryers (including me) to spam general section, we dont need them. And if we dont stop this now The River Of Tears from Infinity/dragon will flood us

LOL
o_O
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
Problem consists in all daggers not only TH/GLAD... problem starts when you have around 2k p atk your normal crits become bigger then any of your skills

video was made with normal TH/WK... using AS+1 no augement and heavy set with no valakas on PP/BD buffs with 2,3k p atk

http://www.filefront.com/14856409/Untitled.avi

Backstab : 7961
Normal critical hit 9080

So why do daggers need to use any skills xD?

Problem and dmg is increased greatly if more p atk is added, witch isnt that hard to do.....
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: WujekDobraRada on November 04, 2009, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
Problem consists in all daggers not only TH/GLAD... problem starts when you have around 2k p atk your normal crits become bigger then any of your skills

video was made with normal TH/WK... using AS+1 no augement and heavy set with no valakas on PP/BD buffs with 2,3k p atk

http://www.filefront.com/14856409/Untitled.avi

Backstab : 7961
Normal critical hit 9080

So why do daggers need to use any skills xD?

Problem and dmg is increased greatly if more p atk is added, with isnt that hard to do.....

Archers aren't using their skills and no1 cries about it ;)

Anyway about that movie - give vop, cov or powind for that th, i guess he's using qift of queen, not blessing. Make crit with backstab on those buffs and dmg will be 3x more than normal crit ;)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:00:11 PM
archer isnt a skill bassed char, while daggers wore always skill bassed :o.... and also there are no resists for dagers.. give me a song that resists dagger dmg for 60% and i stop cry :D

like dag said.. if you need dagger boost boost skills i dont care... just this stupid boost with P atk is crazy also +30% crit dmg
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 04, 2009, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 04, 2009, 04:53:13 PM
Archers aren't using their skills and no1 cries about it ;)

:) for sure they (should) use stun shot  ::) ::) ::)

btw.... yep i have to admit that such P ATK  boost is not the right way
and i say it as dagger (normal th/pp)

it's good the boost on blows (maybe a little more isn't bad.... 7k on npc----> 1500 max on a player with a succesfull blow)
not the boost on normal critical hit
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 04, 2009, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:00:11 PM
archer isnt a skill bassed char, while daggers wore always skill bassed :o.... and also there are no resists for dagers.. give me a song that resists dagger dmg for 60% and i stop cry :D

like dag said.. if you need dagger boost boost skills i dont care... just this stupid boost with P atk is crazy also +30% crit dmg
omg....i had a +1 from AOD
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:00:11 PM
archer isnt a skill bassed char, while daggers wore always skill bassed :o.... and also there are no resists for dagers.. give me a song that resists dagger dmg for 60% and i stop cry :D

like dag said.. if you need dagger boost boost skills i dont care... just this stupid boost with P atk is crazy also +30% crit dmg
Dude why the freak do you care? You play on infinity... I have a good idea for you! Go to a different L2 server, make a account on their forum and warn them! What I'm trying to say is; freak the cancer off.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
why da fak do i care? couse we recive same stupid updates as some of your noobs are asking for and have no idea how to play  :-*

Edit: i only ask to fix infinity i dont give a crap about NM you can make PP's uber DD for all i care :
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
why da fak do i care? couse we recive same stupid updates as some of your noobs are asking for and have no idea how to play  :-*

Edit: i only ask to fix infinity i dont give a crap about NM you can make PP's uber DD for all i care :
So why are you whining here? Nobody here has any relation to Infinity, which makes your visit here useless. Go back where you came from and whine there. Add Drake on MSN or mail him, complain to your GM's. It wont change anything on infinity when you whine here all the time.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:47:01 PM
........ your a moron?

Track is in charge of our updates... he has contact to drake... Infinity doesnt have a GM, we get NM updates and since the only alive GM with any contact with Drake is Track and he reads NM section i write here. next time dont ask for stupid updates or if you ask for them ask only for NM ; , if you have any more brainless comments plz leave them to yourself... :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 04, 2009, 05:54:34 PM
Now why should we trust someone who can't even spell dagger?


Btw... Pr/Aw rapes from behind now?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:47:01 PM
........ your a moron?

Track is in charge of our updates... he has contact to drake... Infinity doesnt have a GM, we get NM updates and since the only alive GM with any contact with Drake is Track and he reads NM section i write here. next time dont ask for stupid updates or if you ask for them ask only for NM ; , if you have any more brainless comments plz leave them to yourself... :)
Oh rly? Kesy has contact with Drake, same as Kotenka. Altho with Kotenka I wouldn't try but with Kesy, yes. Drake is in charge, no-one else. So what you're saying is; Track is making the updates but first does them on Infinity? And not in his main server? Seriously... how can you even ask me if I'm a moron? When it's obvious you're the moron here. Besides don't you think it's smarter to just write a PM to Track instead with proves. You're here and writing some bullshit and expect people to believe it. When someone asks a simple question you reply; I don't wanna tell how he does it. Saying that Nightmare players are noobs that don't know how to play when it's so freaking obvious you're whining here and thats always for a reason, you get owned by daggers. So who's the noob?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
and who is kesy? dude if you cant read .... i dont even feel the need to respond to you.. NM gets updates first then WE get YOUR updates.

y i get owned by dagers xD
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on November 04, 2009, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 05:47:01 PM
........ your a moron?

Track is in charge of our updates... he has contact to drake... Infinity doesnt have a GM, we get NM updates and since the only alive GM with any contact with Drake is Track and he reads NM section i write here. next time dont ask for stupid updates or if you ask for them ask only for NM ; , if you have any more brainless comments plz leave them to yourself... :)
I would say daggers boost was made not because "i have personal criers to make them happy", is more like daggers class was long way forgotten and we wanted to give them a life again, so bottom line all DN servers needed the boost not only the NM, and seriously , do you really think that someone who is QQ forum/msn/game will make us do any "update". We do updates only on places where they are needed.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on November 04, 2009, 06:16:58 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
and who is kesy? dude if you cant read .... i dont even feel the need to respond to you.. NM gets updates first then WE get YOUR updates.

y i get owned by dagers xD
Yes NM always get updates 1st, because after update period , we use nm as beta test updater , then if all fine all other servers get correct ones after a week, imo there is no problem in it.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
and who is kesy? dude if you cant read .... i dont even feel the need to respond to you.. NM gets updates first then WE get YOUR updates.

y i get owned by dagers xD
Kesy is Dragon GM? Bigcat or what ever his nick is. You don't feel to respond to me because I'm making points, isn't it? It's very unlikely that you inf noobs know something before Nightmare players ain't it? You've just state my point but let's ignore that.

So accept that you get owned by daggers, reroll wait 3,4 months and cry again because some other class will own.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:20:31 PM
i didnt say there is a problem in updates.... there is a problem with this recent update... for dagger p atk and crit dmg..... how can you say its normall for daggers to do more dmg with normal critical hits then with any of his skills? so why woud they use skills.. ? skills dont have a 100% land rate and also drain mana.

dunno we have many daggers on infinity so there they arent forgotten.

boosting dagger skills instead of P atk and crit dmg woud be way better just for more fun gameplay.. even if they will become owerpowerd ;
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:20:31 PM
i didnt say there is a problem in updates.... there is a problem with this recent update... for dagger p atk and crit dmg..... how can you say its normall for daggers to do more dmg with normal critical hits then with any of his skills? so why woud they use skills.. ? skills dont have a 100% land rate and also drain mana.

dunno we have many daggers on infinity so there they arent forgotten.
Dude track just said in a nice way; freak OFF. What don't you understand?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 06:41:37 PM
in fact u didnt get the point of this topic and all points u ve stated are wrong, even track proved u that :P
Jezus freaking christ. Are you freaking blind?

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 06:41:37 PMwhat kind of bullshit is this, to pm gm with it? since when ANYONE was EVER listened by pming GM on dragon network? lol
Like GM's listen to you when you make a whine thread. And yes some GM's actually read their PM's and when you give good points they will reply.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 06:41:37 PMhe hasnt got a glad th with as+16 so no kiddin he hasnt got a screens from it, and he posted what he has..
Exactly what I said. He talks bullshit with unproven points.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 06:41:37 PMsince track is seen saying: "i got no time so no updates atm, we have coded it all and updates here" means he has the word, doesnt he? i doubt any dragon GM got any coding skills so again, why pming them?
I doubt that Track does but let's get my opinion out of the picture. As you can see he says "we" can be anybody. And as you probably know Drake is always a part of "we" so why not give a GM a ring and show him what you have so he can contact Drake himself.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 06:41:37 PMabout "u wont be listened on nm forums", not so long ago olympiad buff was about to be removed because it s "bugged", but after i made a topic track changed his mind, coincidance? :P
You really think you can make a change? How long do you already play on Dragon-Network? 2 months?

But let me guess... You get owned by daggers aswell...

Going to a casino now so have fun whining about daggers.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: wildpussy on November 04, 2009, 06:50:31 PM
track since you are responding here can i ask why did you make update to make "daggers more wanted" but why NEVER EVER have we seen any update that would make gladiator wanted? i don't play any gladiator char but i feel sorry for those who made gladiators, mostly they are in noob clans (good clans won't take them), also in most cases it's their 1st chars couse they didn't know the char would suck so much
also why for example sorcerors are so weak :P and shillen elder... (lame not even enchantable heal)

ps. i prefer much more this update where there's no more lethals, at least until players won't realize how to setup their chars,
since most people here are monkeys they still use -8 STR and what's more i still see idiots using demon dagger + MM (lawl), you know, they heard somewhere that having -str is good for dagger and that patk doesnt affect blows, which is simply bullshit and you can't argue with facts, patk does matter on stab damage, and normal hits rocked even before this update (on dagger chars ofc), now will see how much time will take before some higher power will realise it's abit too much
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 06:57:17 PM
woloolooo +1 ;
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:49:32 PM
1. Jezus freaking christ. Are you freaking blind?
2. Like GM's listen to you when you make a whine thread. And yes some GM's actually read their PM's and when you give good points they will reply.
3. Exactly what I said. He talks bullshit with unproven points.
4. I doubt that Track does but let's get my opinion out of the picture. As you can see he says "we" can be anybody. And as you probably know Drake is always a part of "we" so why not give a GM a ring and show him what you have so he can contact Drake himself.
5.You really think you can make a change? How long do you already play on Dragon-Network? 2 months?

6.But let me guess... You get owned by daggers aswell...

Going to a casino now so have fun whining about daggers.

1. saying nobody here has a relation with infinity, but yet, changes that are done here, are done on infi, means if we make a change here, it will be done on infi, understood? u re dreaming about a stuff like;" track does updates on infi first and than on nightmare, this is the problem?" where did u pick this?  :-\ .. and thats also the reason that rav3nclaw ignored u since he told u that twice..

2. like u said, we made a TOPIC because pms are 99% IGNORED, exceptions are tuff donators that got robbed +-.. :D
u know what kind of reply i got when i talked personally to one gm, why he doesnt reply my pms? "i got too big flood i just delete all", come on cut the crap, lol

3. he posted a movie when normal hit crit is bigger than blow crit, and the most tuff one, BACKSTAB, what else should be proven here?

4. "i have a lot of exams to do" means whole DN team got them? even posted by TRACKZERO? it means to u drake kotenka everyone got exams? come on another bullshit, lol

5. so tell me, it was posted olympiad acumen will be removed, i made a topic, it got locked and voi-la, it wont be removed after a though of it.. coincidance? ofcourse u will say since u see u were badly wrong :P

6. if u would read all my posts u would see they are mostly objective so "u are owned by someone, QQ about it" wont work here, in fact, i personally would even prefer the boost to stay ;)

and really, i though we passed the stage of "WHO IS NOT FROM OTHER SERVER IS TOTAL NOOB HAHAH WE ARE THE BEST".. and rav3n didnt start with it, he used many IF's :P
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM
1. saying nobody here has a relation with infinity, but yet, changes that are done here, are done on infi, means if we make a change here, it will be done on infi, understood? u re dreaming about a stuff like;" track does updates on infi first and than on nightmare, this is the problem?" where did u pick this?  :-\ .. and thats also the reason that rav3nclaw ignored u since he told u that twice..
kk last reply then I have to leave.

No, Infinity doesn't have any relation with Nightmare. Infinity is a second rank server. That part about "updates on inf before nm" that wasn't ment as it was written down... If you get what I mean.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM2. like u said, we made a TOPIC because pms are 99% IGNORED, exceptions are tuff donators that got robbed +-.. :D
u know what kind of reply i got when i talked personally to one gm, why he doesnt reply my pms? "i got too big flood i just delete all", come on cut the crap, lol
Well I don't know about you, but when I pm'd GM's I always got a decent answer, expect those foony Dragon GM's expect Kesy.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM3. he posted a movie when normal hit crit is bigger than blow crit, and the most tuff one, BACKSTAB, what else should be proven here?
Do it on char instead of a NPC with 0 p.def or god may know how many p.def they have.


Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM4. "i have a lot of exams to do" means whole DN team got them? even posted by TRACKZERO? it means to u drake kotenka everyone got exams? come on another bullshit, lol
Try this one in English because I don't get a shit what you're trying to say.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM5. so tell me, it was posted olympiad acumen will be removed, i made a topic, it got locked and voi-la, it wont be removed after a though of it.. coincidance? ofcourse u will say since u see u were badly wrong :P
You're really funny if you really think that it wasn't done because of you. Really really funny.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 04, 2009, 07:10:12 PM6. if u would read all my posts u would see they are mostly objective so "u are owned by someone, QQ about it" wont work here, in fact, i personally would even prefer the boost to stay ;)
Nobody does something without gaining something himself here, nor do you.

Gone now
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
Advice for "infi whiners":
ignore this Mr.Emiel, who for his half year on forum, never made any usefull post, never showed he knows anything about game
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 10:34:08 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
Advice for "infi whiners":
ignore this Mr.Emiel, who for his half year on forum, never made any usefull post, never showed he knows anything about game
You're not allowed to talk about me.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Ashlynn on November 04, 2009, 11:24:21 PM
Quote from: flamingAwe on November 04, 2009, 07:36:23 PM
Advice for "infi whiners":
ignore this Mr.Emiel, who for his half year on forum, never made any usefull post, never showed he knows anything about game
Talking to him is like talking with a chipmunk. It is nice to argue with him if you are bored and want to have some fun.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 04, 2009, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: WujekDobraRada on November 04, 2009, 04:53:13 PM
Archers aren't using their skills and no1 cries about it ;)

Anyway about that movie - give vop, cov or powind for that th, i guess he's using qift of queen, not blessing. Make crit with backstab on those buffs and dmg will be 3x more than normal crit ;)

you guess wrong... btw for cov/pow you tested or you guess also? ;
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: PolSilv3r on November 05, 2009, 12:37:04 AM
About Glads - they were good (I would say NORMAL) for first 3 days of IL times but after that time I noticed only nerfs (especially reuse) which makes that char sh1t as hell - unplayable.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: SettoJke on November 05, 2009, 02:42:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 07:19:52 PM
kk last reply then I have to leave.

No, Infinity doesn't have any relation with Nightmare. Infinity is a second rank server. That part about "updates on inf before nm" that wasn't ment as it was written down... If you get what I mean.
Well I don't know about you, but when I pm'd GM's I always got a decent answer, expect those foony Dragon GM's expect Kesy.
Do it on char instead of a NPC with 0 p.def or god may know how many p.def they have.

Try this one in English because I don't get a shit what you're trying to say.
You're really funny if you really think that it wasn't done because of you. Really really funny.
Nobody does something without gaining something himself here, nor do you.

Gone now
Die from a cancer, fag! Ikillyawheniatleastlogmsn >.>

loled @ topic, hi mengz :F
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: FadeAway on November 05, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
What a drama...

Something i gotta get of my chest, why glads don't 'pwn' anymore? just beqause people that don't have good enough items play it? (dunno if they are skilled or not), Glads are still the best 1 vs 1 char there is (i aint talking about oly)... + they can deal like most dmg vs someone perfect buffed basically beqause glad's sonic crits doesn't get effected by ChantOfProtection.  But well imma leave it by it since it aint directed on the topics subject.

Now what i'm reading, the update needs to get 'nerfed' beqause there's 1 player that has a glad/th wich has a AS+16 and he is a bit OP?
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't players with +16 jedi weapons aren't supposed to deal allot of dmg? Although i'd like to see a screen of that 6k p atk...

But i have to say that they could have made dagger chars stronger in a other way... Like increasing dmg of blows or something in passives, but i guess this was the most easy way to make dagger chars stronger for drake...
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AM
i ve just told u how nightmare is connected with infinity.. in what ranks are u dreaming of?
updates that are done here are after done on infinity aswell, since track is NM gm, he reads nightmare forums, if people are whining about something a lot, he'll give it a though and if he'll believe a change must be done, he'll do it, and so all the servers will get this change.. got it?
and please, enlighten me, because i dont know how this was ment :)
When people will whine there will be a change? I'm gonna start a "Make a downgrade to C3" whine thread and let's see what will happen, even if 99% of the server want's it aswell. If you don't get it then you're worthless. Anyways; Track said he does the updates first on Nightmare for testing. Which means that we can play with the updates earlyer then inf fags. Which means that if this bullshit is true what this other fag is saying then it would had be known even before you could play with the current updates.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AMfine, so its my word against urs, just too bad  90% of the dn thinks the same as me xD
Yep, 90% of DN is a retard, you're totally right.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AMsince when p def matters at testing what power something does compared to another skill? if u got 0 p def and backstab does less damage than normal hit crit, than even at 100k p def backstab will do less damage than normal hit crit, lol
And what about buffs as "decrease crit dmg" And thinking of it let's rethink it... Normal hit is lower then a skill, critical hit is higher (as you guys claim) skill is a critical effect. ALTHO You can do a critical with a skill. Let's see if you'll do a critical backstab, if you know what I mean.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AMi believe u ve read some of the track posts when he s saying "i got few exams incomming so updates will come with delay" and stuff like that.. so based on ur beliefs from previous posts, this means to u that whole DN team is having an exam and is busy to make an update? or that track actually has some influence.. ?
Nope never read it. I never said he doesn't have any influence in the updates, I'm just doubting that he actually has coding skills.


Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AMreally? u said urself if u make a good argument gms will listen to you, i made it (a topic)  and after a day or two it was told update wont be made :)
i bet if i made a pm my chances of succes would decrease for 90%s :D
Well this is a 90% decrease of succes. Look around... Nobody wants it and calls you whiners so what happened is; everybody is against the infinity fags. Means by your way of talking that it's lost, no succes.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 08:44:32 AMif this applys to u, it s not necessery everyone is the same :) seriously, after u got everything u could, any new challange is fukin welcome :)
It applies to everybody. Here and everywhere else. In a game, in real life. Nothing will change that. Gotta love monetary systems, don't you? It's all about provit.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: SettoJke on November 05, 2009, 02:42:37 AM
Die from a cancer, fag! Ikillyawheniatleastlogmsn >.>

loled @ topic, hi mengz :F
PIDAR! Log msn fool.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
When people will whine there will be a change? I'm gonna start a "Make a downgrade to C3" whine thread and let's see what will happen, even if 99% of the server want's it aswell. If you don't get it then you're worthless. Anyways; Track said he does the updates first on Nightmare for testing. Which means that we can play with the updates earlyer then inf fags. Which means that if this bullshit is true what this other fag is saying then it would had be known even before you could play with the current updates.

u think this dagger and mage boost came out of nowwhere? and archer nerf? take a look at this section a bit, lol

and where is it written that people on nightmare will figure this out during the test period?

and still u havnt explained me this:
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 04, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
So what you're saying is; Track is making the updates but first does them on Infinity? And not in his main server? Seriously... how can you even ask me if I'm a moron? When it's obvious you're the moron here.

:)

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
Yep, 90% of DN is a retard, you're totally right.

and still that doesnt change the fact that they have their own experiances how they werent listened by a gm...

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
And what about buffs as "decrease crit dmg" And thinking of it let's rethink it... Normal hit is lower then a skill, critical hit is higher (as you guys claim) skill is a critical effect. ALTHO You can do a critical with a skill. Let's see if you'll do a critical backstab, if you know what I mean.

so u were wrong about pdef werent u ?  :)

its not about exact numbers but the relation between blows - hits, backstab crit may be bigger for even 2x or 3x but for the mana, time & position it consumps normal hits are far more rational choice.. and again, even at backstab, the strongest blow, normal hits are a better choice, who would though of the rest of the blows than.. and thats not how dagger class is supposed to work..

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
Nope never read it. I never said he doesn't have any influence in the updates, I'm just doubting that he actually has coding skills.

perhaps track himself can solve this dilema =) however its still more logical to think he actually codes, since for what other reason updates wouldnt come than the "he had an exam"..

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
Well this is a 90% decrease of succes. Look around... Nobody wants it and calls you whiners so what happened is; everybody is against the infinity fags. Means by your way of talking that it's lost, no succes.

we made it public, hold on a week or two and people will realize that normal hit damage is not so normal as it seemed, the topics will apear and the change will follow =)

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
It applies to everybody. Here and everywhere else. In a game, in real life. Nothing will change that. Gotta love monetary systems, don't you? It's all about provit.

so u dont know much about the rest of the world :)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PM
u think this dagger and mage boost came out of nowwhere? and archer nerf? take a look at this section a bit, lol
Of course not. Archers were overpowered as I heard so they tuned up the different chars a bit. I never saw anyone whining about daggers tho. If it would make any difference whining why glads still suck then?

and where is it written that people on nightmare will figure this out during the test period?

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMand still u havnt explained me this:
:)
I already did but you're to stupid to understand it. Lemme guess.. Low educated?

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMand still that doesnt change the fact that they have their own experiances how they werent listened by a gm...
That's true but a retard experiences everything different as a normal person.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMso u were wrong about pdef werent u ?  :)
Not wrong, just didn't explain it well enough for your narrow ability to think.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMits not about exact numbers but the relation between blows - hits, backstab crit may be bigger for even 2x or 3x but for the mana, time & position it consumps normal hits are far more rational choice.. and again, even at backstab, the strongest blow, normal hits are a better choice, who would though of the rest of the blows than.. and thats not how dagger class is supposed to work..
Daggers never worked correctly. But leave that out of the picture cuz you still didn't made a good point. It's your way of thinking, not a fact.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMperhaps track himself can solve this dilema =) however its still more logical to think he actually codes, since for what other reason updates wouldnt come than the "he had an exam"..
Advise for you; Stop thinking.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMwe made it public, hold on a week or two and people will realize that normal hit damage is not so normal as it seemed, the topics will apear and the change will follow =)
Well that's bullshit. And of course people will complain IF it's true what you're all saying. People always whine when they can't win, like you do.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 02:07:25 PMso u dont know much about the rest of the world :)
I'm pretty sure that I understand this world better that we're living in as you. L2 is a simple explanation because it's a game based on tradings. Tradings you make to gain something, to make provit. As it goes for everything else in the game. The stronger you are the more you gain. The weaker you are the less you gain. You became "weak" in your eyes so you feel like you're losing self gain and that's why you're here with 2 tears on your cheek.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 05, 2009, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: FadeAway on November 05, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
What a drama...

Something i gotta get of my chest, why glads don't 'pwn' anymore? just beqause people that don't have good enough items play it? (dunno if they are skilled or not), Glads are still the best 1 vs 1 char there is (i aint talking about oly)... + they can deal like most dmg vs someone perfect buffed basically beqause glad's sonic crits doesn't get effected by ChantOfProtection.  But well imma leave it by it since it aint directed on the topics subject.

Now what i'm reading, the update needs to get 'nerfed' beqause there's 1 player that has a glad/th wich has a AS+16 and he is a bit OP?
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't players with +16 jedi weapons aren't supposed to deal allot of dmg? Although i'd like to see a screen of that 6k p atk...

But i have to say that they could have made dagger chars stronger in a other way... Like increasing dmg of blows or something in passives, but i guess this was the most easy way to make dagger chars stronger for drake...

actualy its not about that TH/GLAD at all... hes from my clan and same country ..... its about normal hits making more dmg then blows.. this is totaly stupid and ruins gameplay if you wanted to boost dagers boost ther skills and not in the way they are boosted now.

or make more buffs again and lower archer resist songs :P
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 05, 2009, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
if people wouldnt complain about archers nothing would be done, they did and here u got the resoult..

one example of dagger whine: http://forum.dragon-community.net/index.php/topic,201011.0.html

as for the glads, there arent any topics yet, share the idea a little and u'll see the resoult :)
Actually when people started to whine the char got nerfed, not some other char got boosted. No threads about gladiators? Since the first day I play they were a issue and that's around 4 years ago if I'm not mistaking.


Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMas i had to reexplain u several things, u could also resist urself from "high-society" flames and for a change explain ur not-mistake, unless u were badly wrong and u re trying to hide it on sucha pathetic way :)
I already did explain it you just don't understand it, read back and if you don't understand it read it another time, still don't, read it another time, etc, etc, etc.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMand if wer already at this subject, i believe im pretty well educated as for my age =)
Yea, if you're 9 you totally are.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMwhat an argument  :o, so tell me if ur pms are ignored, in what all ways u could experiance it?
Well that's the case. I would ignore retards aswell and you seriously don't think that everybody gets ignored do you? And that making a whine thread like this one here actually does something? I know you'll be like "oh yes man it does!" Well look at Track his answer and case closed, my win.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMoh, started with intelligence arguing already? though i had a page or two left, based on ur previous argues with the rest of the community =)

u made an argument that test should be made on a player because we dont know the p def of a npc, but the p def doesnt affect the testing, u were wrong and u cant change it lol

the same goes for buff that lowers crit dmg, we ARE comparing criticals of lethal blow/deadly blow/critical blow & normal hits
I already said that I wrote it down wrong, what do you want to hear? "I'm sorry that I wrote it wrong, please forgive me?" freak off? Well I'm pretty sure that a critical backstab (as in 2x critical effect) does more dmg then a single critical hit.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMour c4 was a leak of official and daggers worked correctly
And there for you're an idiot. Do you know how many skills got recoded? Do you know how many skills got added? It's clearly you don't hold any knowledge of how this thing works at all, and I'm not even throwing Dragon Network subclasses in the ring. Everything that you think is "official" isn't.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMruning out of arguments?
Running out of lust to talk with an idiot. You're delusional, friend.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMagain; thats why we gave it out
Again; That's why nobody will listen, care about it. It's always been like this. One char gets overpowered, everybody makes it. Then another char gets overpowered so the previous owners of a overpowered char will complain. It's a never ending story and never will be fixed, and cannot be fixed either.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMu re missing a point; what happens when u got everything and cannot gain more
This is a never ending game, it has no end or did you ever see something in the way like "game-over". You can play this game for years and still don't have everything, it's impossible. You get valakas+4 you want it +5, got +5 you want +6 etc etc goes for every single item and what so ever that is obtainable.

Quote from: Kikolina on November 05, 2009, 04:10:23 PMand the thing u fuked up during making quotes,reanswer plx :) :
Don't know what you're talking about I don't want to re-read everything to get what you're referring to.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 06, 2009, 07:19:48 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on November 04, 2009, 06:15:43 PM
I would say daggers boost was made not because "i have personal criers to make them happy", is more like daggers class was long way forgotten and we wanted to give them a life again, so bottom line all DN servers needed the boost not only the NM, and seriously , do you really think that someone who is QQ forum/msn/game will make us do any "update". We do updates only on places where they are needed.

I would say daggers boost was made not because "i have personal criers to make them happy"   

So if you dont listen to the people that play ingame who do you listen to?

And how do you know where updates are needed if not from players? as far as i know GM's are not allowed to play on the servers, so by default you should know sh1t about the server situation, so all info you get is from other players like  zthrx witch is a total noob and doesnt know how to play his char and the result was this stupid update. witch freaked things up.

" is more like daggers class was long way forgotten"

Check infinity many daggers play there probably more then archers little less then mages enemy clans have 50% dagers we have little less but still there are many daggers.

Quote from: TrackZero on November 04, 2009, 06:15:43 PM"Yes NM always get updates 1st, because after update period , we use nm as beta test updater , then if all fine all other servers get correct ones after a week, imo there is no problem in it."

Well all isnt fine, you freaked up.. beta testing failed thats why this post was made, if problem isnt found in a beta test it isnt a problem latter?

Iam sure all woud agree if you just boost skills instead of p atk that this will make a more fun gameplay for all... not only daggers but also for other chars. Or soon skills will be forgotten in total and this will be noob-network that only press F1. mybe you shoud make autobuffers also so nobody will have to get buffed and unlimited buffs so we can take all ;
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: jygh on November 06, 2009, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 06, 2009, 07:19:48 AM
I would say daggers boost was made not because "i have personal criers to make them happy"   

So if you dont listen to the people that play ingame who do you listen to?

And how do you know where updates are needed if not from players? as far as i know GM's are not allowed to play on the servers, so by default you should know sh1t about the server situation, so all info you get is from other players like  zthrx witch is a total noob and doesnt know how to play his char and the result was this stupid update. witch freaked things up.

" is more like daggers class was long way forgotten"

Check infinity many daggers play there probably more then archers little less then mages enemy clans have 50% dagers we have little less but still there are many daggers.

Well all isnt fine, you freaked up.. beta testing failed thats why this post was made, if problem isnt found in a beta test it isnt a problem latter?

Iam sure all woud agree if you just boost skills instead of p atk that this will make a more fun gameplay for all... not only daggers but also for other chars. Or soon skills will be forgotten in total and this will be noob-network that only press F1. mybe you shoud make autobuffers also so nobody will have to get buffed and unlimited buffs so we can take all ;

go qq to infinity gm not  to track lol
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Di on November 06, 2009, 11:37:01 AM
We joking after RB , me and davy..  im on Guts 30%  songs pdef COV and pdef pot    he did 8k  WHILE JUST HITTING WITH DAGGER!
So if Dagger isant Strong too much now... why a good dagger coud kill anyone b4? isant enough  to have  2 good daggers on party of pvp ?  now dagger is something like SPS ? TY/DE ?  will kill all alone ?   i tell u its BULLXIT!   

Make blows land more... make lethal land more  but dont make a stupid daggger hit  8k on ty/de with 4k pdef
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: flamingAwe on November 06, 2009, 11:40:31 AM
this again shows that admins should stop trying to balance things, players will balance game their own way
admins should fix stuff that doesn't work, really many things that were reported on arena test still are not fixed
and really many things could be fixed by just copy/paste/change  stat.
Admins, ofc we could uderstand that it is hard, if you buy/get from somewhere working server, and using reverce engeneering methods update code, but you always say that you code servfer.... so fix, add new stuff, don't try to lol-balance
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Alex on November 06, 2009, 11:52:00 AM
i see that th/glad is like superstar there xD
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
And as usual Emiel is only blowing smoke out his ass.... Back in the days when you played dagger you cheated your ass off, so I don't see how you can even utter an opinion at all in this matter (have you even played since c3?)

But then I read a few of your responses, and I realise that your way of "arguing" is based on just prooving the other person to be less intelligent then you. Something you just failed horribly with, you still sound and write like you're a little brat who's afraid ppl are gonna forget him.

Got news for ya son, barely anyone knows who you are anymore, and why you keep writing theese long-ass responses will forever be a riddle to me.
And if you write "I like to argue with ppl, and prove dumb ppl wrong" I ain't buying it cause right now you are stuck in your "you are to dumb to explain it to" loop wich means you know you have absolutely no arguements left, and you try to muster up your most advanced english (epic fail btw) to make it look like you're intelligent (epic fail again).

Newsflash turd, noone likes you so go sodomize a shotgun dkweed.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 12:00:53 PM
And as usual Emiel is only blowing smoke out his ass.... Back in the days when you played dagger you cheated your ass off, so I don't see how you can even utter an opinion at all in this matter (have you even played since c3?)
I never cheated. I just understand this game better as you do, that's all. Yea I played a while in C4 but it sucked.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 12:00:53 PMBut then I read a few of your responses, and I realise that your way of "arguing" is based on just prooving the other person to be less intelligent then you. Something you just failed horribly with, you still sound and write like you're a little brat who's afraid ppl are gonna forget him.
Actually most of the replys were based on own experience, so facts. I don't have to argue with anyone here to show he's less intelligent, everybody knows he is already so no point to talk about it. Why would I be afraid of some people I don't know to forget me? Do you even see what you're writing? About the little brat stuff. Call me what ever you like just remember in the end of the day I'm not a sad old 30+ year old guy with no wife/gf and sellings playstations.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 12:00:53 PMGot news for ya son, barely anyone knows who you are anymore, and why you keep writing theese long-ass responses will forever be a riddle to me.
And if you write "I like to argue with ppl, and prove dumb ppl wrong" I ain't buying it cause right now you are stuck in your "you are to dumb to explain it to" loop wich means you know you have absolutely no arguements left, and you try to muster up your most advanced english (epic fail btw) to make it look like you're intelligent (epic fail again).
Like I care if people don't know who I am, if I want I can change that matter in a week. I already explained to you a dosen times why I'm writing here so I don't get why you keep asking that question... I already explained that guy two times what I ment with it, so yes he is to stupid to explain it to. Just like you with the writing here stuff. I don't need it to look intelligent, I am intelligent it's big difference my boy. But let us throw something from the left corner in the ring shall we? You keep asking me "Why u write here zomg!" Didn't you tell me that you quit player? Oh yes son, you did. So lets get this straight. You blaim me in a kind of way that I write here because I don't play L2 anymore, but arent you doing the exact same thing?

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 12:00:53 PMNewsflash turd, noone likes you so go sodomize a shotgun dkweed.
That's the difference between you and me. You think you are loved here, hell I'll even rephrase it. You are loved here. So it's quite common you prefer talking to people on the internet that "love" you, instead of real-life. On the otherhand we have me. I don't give a jackshit about anyone here if someone would die, care. I have something you don't have, friends, girlfriend, and a nice automobile! lol. I don't care what people think about me here it's all about the real-life son, I already understood that the time that I was 15, you're like what? 30? 31? You havent achiefed anything in your life if you compare it to mine. Maybe you are more known here as me, maybe you have better items as me, maybe you have better chars as me. Who cares? Server gone, your so called life gone. Mine wont son, mine wont.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
I never cheated. I just understand this game better as you do, that's all. Yea I played a while in C4 but it sucked.
Actually most of the replys were based on own experience, so facts. I don't have to argue with anyone here to show he's less intelligent, everybody knows he is already so no point to talk about it. Why would I be afraid of some people I don't know to forget me? Do you even see what you're writing? About the little brat stuff. Call me what ever you like just remember in the end of the day I'm not a sad old 30+ year old guy with no wife/gf and sellings playstations.
Like I care if people don't know who I am, if I want I can change that matter in a week. I already explained to you a dosen times why I'm writing here so I don't get why you keep asking that question... I already explained that guy two times what I ment with it, so yes he is to stupid to explain it to. Just like you with the writing here stuff. I don't need it to look intelligent, I am intelligent it's big difference my boy. But let us throw something from the left corner in the ring shall we? You keep asking me "Why u write here zomg!" Didn't you tell me that you quit player? Oh yes son, you did. So lets get this straight. You blaim me in a kind of way that I write here because I don't play L2 anymore, but arent you doing the exact same thing?
That's the difference between you and me. You think you are loved here, hell I'll even rephrase it. You are loved here. So it's quite common you prefer talking to people on the internet that "love" you, instead of real-life. On the otherhand we have me. I don't give a jackshit about anyone here if someone would die, care. I have something you don't have, friends, girlfriend, and a nice automobile! lol. I don't care what people think about me here it's all about the real-life son, I already understood that the time that I was 15, you're like what? 30? 31? You havent achiefed anything in your life if you compare it to mine. Maybe you are more known here as me, maybe you have better items as me, maybe you have better chars as me. Who cares? Server gone, your so called life gone. Mine wont son, mine wont.

Quick reply since all your text is just empty nonsense like i pointed out earlier.

1. Im 25... Ain't that hard to check before you make the assumption im 30+
2. Yeah im recently singel..... Don't see why thats something you find that negative... Is status determined whether or not your in a relationship in the neatherlands?
3. You have posted way more on this forum then I have the past months.... And I have never said I quit. And I haven't uttered my opinion about the daggerupdate since I haven't tried it yet.
4. You have never exaplined to me once while you are writing here. What you are telling me are lies to save your ego, but the real reason is rather obvious.
5. Yes you cheated... You already said yourself that your th/wlk had edited skills (cry for attention imo but thats what you said) and I know for a fact that you made an L2walker for DNet.
6. Not caring whether ppl die or live is a sure sign of mental problems. Empathy is something we all should have.
7. Anyone in my clan can confirm that I haven't really been active in this game for the past year.
8. You have no idea what I've done in my life so you shouldn't assume I haven't done shit cause that only makes you look like a fool to the ppl that actually knows me here.

Last but not least @Kikolina I've done your misstake before... And believe me Emiel has absolutely no life at all and he won't ever stop with the same arguements no matter how many times you tell him he's wrong. So it's totally up to you how much time you wanna waste on him.

Cheerio
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Shinyu on November 06, 2009, 03:37:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
I never cheated. I just understand this game better as you do, that's all. Yea I played a while in C4 but it sucked.
Actually most of the replys were based on own experience, so facts. I don't have to argue with anyone here to show he's less intelligent, everybody knows he is already so no point to talk about it. Why would I be afraid of some people I don't know to forget me? Do you even see what you're writing? About the little brat stuff. Call me what ever you like just remember in the end of the day I'm not a sad old 30+ year old guy with no wife/gf and sellings playstations.
Like I care if people don't know who I am, if I want I can change that matter in a week. I already explained to you a dosen times why I'm writing here so I don't get why you keep asking that question... I already explained that guy two times what I ment with it, so yes he is to stupid to explain it to. Just like you with the writing here stuff. I don't need it to look intelligent, I am intelligent it's big difference my boy. But let us throw something from the left corner in the ring shall we? You keep asking me "Why u write here zomg!" Didn't you tell me that you quit player? Oh yes son, you did. So lets get this straight. You blaim me in a kind of way that I write here because I don't play L2 anymore, but arent you doing the exact same thing?
That's the difference between you and me. You think you are loved here, hell I'll even rephrase it. You are loved here. So it's quite common you prefer talking to people on the internet that "love" you, instead of real-life. On the otherhand we have me. I don't give a jackshit about anyone here if someone would die, care. I have something you don't have, friends, girlfriend, and a nice automobile! lol. I don't care what people think about me here it's all about the real-life son, I already understood that the time that I was 15, you're like what? 30? 31? You havent achieved anything in your life if you compare it to mine. Maybe you are more known here as me, maybe you have better items as me, maybe you have better chars as me. Who cares? Server gone, your so called life gone. Mine wont son, mine wont.

u kinda sound like an dumb hater that needs to swear at some ppl to stand in a better light =D reallife problems? =D



Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: BassSultan^^ on November 06, 2009, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quick reply since all your text is just empty nonsense like i pointed out earlier.

1. Im 25... Ain't that hard to check before you make the assumption im 30+
2. Yeah im recently singel..... Don't see why thats something you find that negative... Is status determined whether or not your in a relationship in the neatherlands?
3. You have posted way more on this forum then I have the past months.... And I have never said I quit. And I haven't uttered my opinion about the daggerupdate since I haven't tried it yet.
4. You have never exaplined to me once while you are writing here. What you are telling me are lies to save your ego, but the real reason is rather obvious.
5. Yes you cheated... You already said yourself that your th/wlk had edited skills (cry for attention imo but thats what you said) and I know for a fact that you made an L2walker for DNet.
6. Not caring whether ppl die or live is a sure sign of mental problems. Empathy is something we all should have.
7. Anyone in my clan can confirm that I haven't really been active in this game for the past year.
8. You have no idea what I've done in my life so you shouldn't assume I haven't done shit cause that only makes you look like a fool to the ppl that actually knows me here.

Last but not least @Kikolina I've done your misstake before... And believe me Emiel has absolutely no life at all and he won't ever stop with the same arguements no matter how many times you tell him he's wrong. So it's totally up to you how much time you wanna waste on him.

Cheerio

:) actually this the way how i heard/ know the things :D  +1
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
Quick reply since all your text is just empty nonsense like i pointed out earlier.

1. Im 25... Ain't that hard to check before you make the assumption im 30+
2. Yeah im recently singel..... Don't see why thats something you find that negative... Is status determined whether or not your in a relationship in the neatherlands?
3. You have posted way more on this forum then I have the past months.... And I have never said I quit. And I haven't uttered my opinion about the daggerupdate since I haven't tried it yet.
4. You have never exaplined to me once while you are writing here. What you are telling me are lies to save your ego, but the real reason is rather obvious.
5. Yes you cheated... You already said yourself that your th/wlk had edited skills (cry for attention imo but thats what you said) and I know for a fact that you made an L2walker for DNet.
6. Not caring whether ppl die or live is a sure sign of mental problems. Empathy is something we all should have.
7. Anyone in my clan can confirm that I haven't really been active in this game for the past year.
8. You have no idea what I've done in my life so you shouldn't assume I haven't done shit cause that only makes you look like a fool to the ppl that actually knows me here.

Last but not least @Kikolina I've done your misstake before... And believe me Emiel has absolutely no life at all and he won't ever stop with the same arguements no matter how many times you tell him he's wrong. So it's totally up to you how much time you wanna waste on him.

Cheerio

#1 - Well you look like 35 that's why I thought you were 30+
#2 - Yes, it's' negative. You're from Norway so it can't be that the girls arent pretty enough. Of course it's a status symbol to have a gf, atleast a hot one. A girlfriend is like a expensive car, to show off with it.
#3 - Like I care how much you posted, you did post that's were it's all about. You litterly said to me "I quit for like 3 months now" So uhm... Who cares if you didn't try it yet, like I did.
#4 - Well let me explain this to you once again real quick. I'm rich, my friends arent. My friends work, I don't. I'm home alone bored so I come here to have some conversations that I think are amusing.
#5 - I never said that my char wasnt edited, I did it myself. Like I said before I understand this game better then the most around here. I don't call that cheating but being smarter as someone else. So if you make walkers for a server you're a cheater?
#6 - Empathy for what? If a stranger would come to you and said "Hey, my brother died" would you care? Well I don't and I think most of us wont.
#7 - Not really active or not active at all is a big difference.
#8 - Well from what I heard is; You left Sweden to sell Playstations, that's a real case you can be proud of. It can't be that you're rich, otherwise you wouldn't be working. It can't be that your high educated otherwise you wouldn't sell Playstations. So I'm pretty sure I can say that you didn't achieve anything at all.

lol @ you. I'm lifeless here? If I could stand you and would look decent I would invite you once to my rich & famous life but since you're a complete tard it will never happen.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: =^TrackZero^= on November 06, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
I wonder who have bigger tool , Kidicarus or Mr. Emiel  ;D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 05:09:23 PM
#1 - Well you look like 35 that's why I thought you were 30+
#2 - Yes, it's' negative. You're from Norway so it can't be that the girls arent pretty enough. Of course it's a status symbol to have a gf, atleast a hot one. A girlfriend is like a expensive car, to show off with it.
#3 - Like I care how much you posted, you did post that's were it's all about. You litterly said to me "I quit for like 3 months now" So uhm... Who cares if you didn't try it yet, like I did.
#4 - Well let me explain this to you once again real quick. I'm rich, my friends arent. My friends work, I don't. I'm home alone bored so I come here to have some conversations that I think are amusing.
#5 - I never said that my char wasnt edited, I did it myself. Like I said before I understand this game better then the most around here. I don't call that cheating but being smarter as someone else. So if you make walkers for a server you're a cheater?
#6 - Empathy for what? If a stranger would come to you and said "Hey, my brother died" would you care? Well I don't and I think most of us wont.
#7 - Not really active or not active at all is a big difference.
#8 - Well from what I heard is; You left Sweden to sell Playstations, that's a real case you can be proud of. It can't be that you're rich, otherwise you wouldn't be working. It can't be that your high educated otherwise you wouldn't sell Playstations. So I'm pretty sure I can say that you didn't achieve anything at all.

lol @ you. I'm lifeless here? If I could stand you and would look decent I would invite you once to my rich & famous life but since you're a complete tard it will never happen.

Education has nothing to do with being smart.... Hell I failed english in school but I promise I would kick your ass in any Englishtest.
And "selling playstations" is your way of looking down at me being a manager of an electronics store... Don't really care though.

And yes if a stranger 's brother dies and he comes up to me and tells me that, ofcourse I feel sorry for him... Most ppl do, it's called empathy and it's not a bad thing.

Well here in norway it's not a status symbol to have a girlfriend.... Personally im enjoying the single life, and being single doesn't mean that you don't meet girls. Just wait untill you are a little older and you will see.

And I define L2walker and edited chars as cheating... And if your flexible morals allows you to think of that as you being smarter then everyone else... Well then I have overestimated you, and believe me my opinion about you wasn't exactly flattering.

Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 06, 2009, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on November 06, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
I wonder who have bigger tool , Kidicarus or Mr. Emiel  ;D
tie
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Ann on November 06, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 05:09:23 PM
#2 - Yes, it's' negative. You're from Norway so it can't be that the girls arent pretty enough. Of course it's a status symbol to have a gf, atleast a hot one. A girlfriend is like a expensive car, to show off with it.
#4 - Well let me explain this to you once again real quick. I'm rich, my friends arent. My friends work, I don't. I'm home alone bored so I come here to have some conversations that I think are amusing.
#6 - Empathy for what? If a stranger would come to you and said "Hey, my brother died" would you care? Well I don't and I think most of us wont.
#8 - Well from what I heard is; You left Sweden to sell Playstations, that's a real case you can be proud of. It can't be that you're rich, otherwise you wouldn't be working. It can't be that your high educated otherwise you wouldn't sell Playstations. So I'm pretty sure I can say that you didn't achieve anything at all.

lol @ you. I'm lifeless here? If I could stand you and would look decent I would invite you once to my rich & famous life but since you're a complete tard it will never happen.
Well it has nothing to do with the topic here, but lol, since you ve described yourself like that here..
Firstly, the sentence about a girlfriend... huh? A girl is not a thing, it's a person with feelings inside, not a machine like a car. A girl is not to show off with her, you have no idea what a relationship is. you just treat women as if they were supposed to make you happy in a bed, don't you? get a slut for it, lol. It seems to me that you actually like the girls that spend 24 h/7 days in a solarium to look 'cool', always say "hihihih, you are so sweet" no matter what you ask them.
You are so proud here with saying that you are rich. Why should it matter for others? Here? it explains all. "Hey, I'm rich, I don't have to work, I don't have to make girls love me, they do love me for my money." those so called 'friends'.. are they the real ones? That you could count on them no matter if you wouldbecome a homeless person once day? Or you just call them this way cause those "cool" guys are always surrounded by dozens of 'friends'. Will you be even able to tell one of them when you are in troubles, what's the matter? "A friend in need, is a friend indeed."
As you said, you don't have to work - fine. so what? Parents pay for everything that you feel you need? It's like in the school, where rich guys pretend to be #1. 'Hey, look at me, i have the money, you don't." To pass exams or a year they will pay, if they have to. a work makes you feel you do it just for yourself.
#6 maybe it's just me, but I would actually care. He might be in a need, and all he needs is just to speak with sb. But whatever...
#8 lol. what does it have to do? Is that an argument? That he works as a manager of a store... Unlike you, he does sth for himself. He has a normal work. Even rich guys work. Somebody should feel ashamed of working as a bitch, not as you said of working in a shop.
I just couldn't resist, have to write it. I hope I'm wrong and you are kinda different than how you described yourself, but I'm almost sure it's all true up there. And no, not all those kids born in rich families are like this, some may be really nice. some.
Now, hf in your "rich & famous" life. Who would even accept an invitation for that...
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: J4cKDan13L on November 06, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: Alex on November 03, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
im dragon player and i post here coz our gms are basically useless. no when I see archer with 2k atk spd i say "lol what an easy frag with monk tattoos" coz w/o ogre tattoos archers hit for shit now on full archer resist buff.

btw judging by your posts and L2 knowledge I can roll full party of same idiots like you on any of my chars.

the translation of "good players of infinity" for rav3n is: "permafullbuffed ppl that target and hit with icarus bow"  8)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: farenk on November 07, 2009, 02:41:52 AM
Quote from: TrackZero on November 06, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
I wonder who have bigger tool , Kidicarus or Mr. Emiel  ;D

hehe...

TrackZero, could you check why Urabanus was banned?  character on NM server. I don't know why. posted in "bad users section" for NM forum, but didn't get any reply. "Trackzero,,," something, is the name of the topic.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PM
Education has nothing to do with being smart.... Hell I failed english in school but I promise I would kick your ass in any Englishtest.
Is that a challenge? if it is you're on.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PMAnd "selling playstations" is your way of looking down at me being a manager of an electronics store... Don't really care though.
rofl manager... Like I said you didn't achieve shit in real life.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PMAnd yes if a stranger 's brother dies and he comes up to me and tells me that, ofcourse I feel sorry for him... Most ppl do, it's called empathy and it's not a bad thing.
It's a weak thing and that's why you fail in live. The people with succes go over bodies. Emotions are bad especially when you're around someone like me. Emotions are very easy to "exploit" If you wouldn't had been a nerd and chased girls you would had known this already.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PMWell here in norway it's not a status symbol to have a girlfriend.... Personally im enjoying the single life, and being single doesn't mean that you don't meet girls. Just wait untill you are a little older and you will see.
Maybe it's not a symbol of status with the people you call friends. Seriously dude... I saw your picture and you're one those guys that stays single till he's 40/45 and then marrys a Polish chick with 3 childeren. You're 4 years older as me. lol. Besides I can get girlfriends in a sec two on the right two on the left. You just have to remind them once a while that they're with you, and that you're not with them.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 06, 2009, 05:36:12 PMAnd I define L2walker and edited chars as cheating... And if your flexible morals allows you to think of that as you being smarter then everyone else... Well then I have overestimated you, and believe me my opinion about you wasn't exactly flattering.
I don't call it cheating. If someone else is smarter as you and you both make a test it's cheating because he has more knowledge? Everybody could had done it, they just didn't find the right way to do it. And till this day nobody succeeded in doing it, only me and a real life friend so yes, I think I can state that I'm smarter then the avarange player here. About the walker. You want to say that you never used walker? 99% of the server does/did it.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:15:07 AM
Quote from: Ann on November 06, 2009, 07:11:21 PM
Well it has nothing to do with the topic here, but lol, since you ve described yourself like that here..
Firstly, the sentence about a girlfriend... huh? A girl is not a thing, it's a person with feelings inside, not a machine like a car. A girl is not to show off with her, you have no idea what a relationship is. you just treat women as if they were supposed to make you happy in a bed, don't you? get a slut for it, lol. It seems to me that you actually like the girls that spend 24 h/7 days in a solarium to look 'cool', always say "hihihih, you are so sweet" no matter what you ask them.
You are so proud here with saying that you are rich. Why should it matter for others? Here? it explains all. "Hey, I'm rich, I don't have to work, I don't have to make girls love me, they do love me for my money." those so called 'friends'.. are they the real ones? That you could count on them no matter if you wouldbecome a homeless person once day? Or you just call them this way cause those "cool" guys are always surrounded by dozens of 'friends'. Will you be even able to tell one of them when you are in troubles, what's the matter? "A friend in need, is a friend indeed."
As you said, you don't have to work - fine. so what? Parents pay for everything that you feel you need? It's like in the school, where rich guys pretend to be #1. 'Hey, look at me, i have the money, you don't." To pass exams or a year they will pay, if they have to. a work makes you feel you do it just for yourself.
#6 maybe it's just me, but I would actually care. He might be in a need, and all he needs is just to speak with sb. But whatever...
#8 lol. what does it have to do? Is that an argument? That he works as a manager of a store... Unlike you, he does sth for himself. He has a normal work. Even rich guys work. Somebody should feel ashamed of working as a bitch, not as you said of working in a shop.
I just couldn't resist, have to write it. I hope I'm wrong and you are kinda different than how you described yourself, but I'm almost sure it's all true up there. And no, not all those kids born in rich families are like this, some may be really nice. some.
Now, hf in your "rich & famous" life. Who would even accept an invitation for that...
Dude... do you even have a girlfriend? If you really mean what you said I doubt that you have one. The nice guy act doesn't get you any girlfriend. Yes, I think girls are only on this planet to freak, clean, make food. Yea I totally like those girls. I think that this so called "love" is crap anyway just think about it. Guys and Girls have nothing in common. Like guys like Cars, girls like Horses. There's only one thing they like and it's six altho girls wont be as easy with it as guys so the guy has to addapt a bit to get what he wants. Of course I'm proud of being rich, who wouldn't? You really think I have to show off how much money I have to get a freak? Get real. Yes, they're real friends, they don't even accept money of me like last summer I wanted to go to Australia they did also but couldn't afford it so I said that I'd pay it but they didn't wanna. Don't come up with Placebo lyrics, it's a gay band. I don't know from what country you are where you can buy papers but it works kind of different here. And yes it's kinda cool being 18 years old and coming to school with a Mercedes SL 500, don't you think? Yes, my dad pays for everything that I feel that I need heck I even have allowance to withdraw money from his bank account. Altho I don't need it especially after Hijemans (company) got worth more then 150% a few weeks ago.  About not doing anything I make more money a day just with stocks then you'd probably earn a year. Who's a bitch? Many people accept a invite like that and I bet that if we met in a normal way and I'd liked you that you wouldn't decline that offer. The rich & famous life is always fun don't worry about that.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: mark_elesse on November 07, 2009, 02:16:08 AM
i miss the old Emiel ... the current " iamthealphayousuckEmiel" is lol and sad ...  :< 

i wish if Sarvi would join here, he is the ultimate flamer w/o insults, he would stick some verbal penis in Emiel's ass....:)
I'm not even flaming. lol.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: RaV3NCLaW on November 07, 2009, 10:37:37 AM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:15:07 AM
Dude... do you even have a girlfriend? If you really mean what you said I doubt that you have one. The nice guy act doesn't get you any girlfriend. Yes, I think girls are only on this planet to freak, clean, make food. Yea I totally like those girls. I think that this so called "love" is crap anyway just think about it. Guys and Girls have nothing in common. Like guys like Cars, girls like Horses. There's only one thing they like and it's six altho girls wont be as easy with it as guys so the guy has to addapt a bit to get what he wants. Of course I'm proud of being rich, who wouldn't? You really think I have to show off how much money I have to get a freak? Get real. Yes, they're real friends, they don't even accept money of me like last summer I wanted to go to Australia they did also but couldn't afford it so I said that I'd pay it but they didn't wanna. Don't come up with Placebo lyrics, it's a gay band. I don't know from what country you are where you can buy papers but it works kind of different here. And yes it's kinda cool being 18 years old and coming to school with a Mercedes SL 500, don't you think? Yes, my dad pays for everything that I feel that I need heck I even have allowance to withdraw money from his bank account. Altho I don't need it especially after Hijemans (company) got worth more then 150% a few weeks ago.  About not doing anything I make more money a day just with stocks then you'd probably earn a year. Who's a bitch? Many people accept a invite like that and I bet that if we met in a normal way and I'd liked you that you wouldn't decline that offer. The rich & famous life is always fun don't worry about that.

buahahhahaha :D i feel bad for you. what a moron incredible. tell your dady to buy you a private l2 server and GTFO of here :
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Shinyu on November 07, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:15:07 AM
Dude... do you even have a girlfriend? If you really mean what you said I doubt that you have one. The nice guy act doesn't get you any girlfriend. Yes, I think girls are only on this planet to freak, clean, make food. Yea I totally like those girls. I think that this so called "love" is crap anyway just think about it. Guys and Girls have nothing in common. Like guys like Cars, girls like Horses. There's only one thing they like and it's six altho girls wont be as easy with it as guys so the guy has to addapt a bit to get what he wants. Of course I'm proud of being rich, who wouldn't? You really think I have to show off how much money I have to get a freak? Get real. Yes, they're real friends, they don't even accept money of me like last summer I wanted to go to Australia they did also but couldn't afford it so I said that I'd pay it but they didn't wanna. Don't come up with Placebo lyrics, it's a gay band. I don't know from what country you are where you can buy papers but it works kind of different here. And yes it's kinda cool being 18 years old and coming to school with a Mercedes SL 500, don't you think? Yes, my dad pays for everything that I feel that I need heck I even have allowance to withdraw money from his bank account. Altho I don't need it especially after Hijemans (company) got worth more then 150% a few weeks ago.  About not doing anything I make more money a day just with stocks then you'd probably earn a year. Who's a bitch? Many people accept a invite like that and I bet that if we met in a normal way and I'd liked you that you wouldn't decline that offer. The rich & famous life is always fun don't worry about that.

HUZAHUZAHAUZHUAUZHUZAHAUZA mr big pimpin'.....  it's funny that u dont even look at the gender of the person u quote and flame.. but  loook u are even more pathetic now after u told us that u reached nothing of ur "rich and famous lifestyle" by urself :D stay as  ur daddys lil petboy

ps: u got a mum?xD is she running around like maid cleaning,cooking and getting banged by ur father all the time or she ran away? i mean there must be a reason why u have such a weird image of women in ur head? =D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Shinyu on November 07, 2009, 10:59:28 AM
HUZAHUZAHAUZHUAUZHUZAHAUZA mr big pimpin'.....  it's funny that u dont even look at the gender of the person u quote and flame.. but  loook u are even more pathetic now after u told us that u reached nothing of ur "rich and famous lifestyle" by urself :D stay as  ur daddys lil petboy
You may call me Mr. Big sixy if you like. I'm looking for hot girls, not nice girls. I have on goal and that's freaking, not a relation. I reached enough actually, I made of 30,000 euro 450,000 in two weeks, and you?

Quote from: Shinyu on November 07, 2009, 10:59:28 AMps: u got a mum?xD is she running around like maid cleaning,cooking and getting banged by ur father all the time or she ran away? i mean there must be a reason why u have such a weird image of women in ur head? =D
My real mum died, never knew her. Yes, we have a maid now just don't know if my dad bangs her. I don't call it a weird image at all it's pretty logical if you ask me.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: mark_elesse on November 07, 2009, 11:47:37 AM
well okay so let me join... :) i would like hear a logical answer on the question: With an awesome life like yours, why you need come to a game forum, claim how good and rich you are ? im kinda well loaded too, tho i havent an SL 500, just a C180 :)  honestly i just dont see your point, i betta like enjoy my life, claimin with my stuffs aint makes me happy...
Previous page, already explained that. Why the hell did you buy a C180? CLK is way better and it's about the same price.

Quote from: mark_elesse on November 07, 2009, 11:47:37 AMalso fix the fact that we are on a mmorpg forum ( i kinda logged ingame  twice since months but whatever :D ) ... so i dont understand why every conversation with you ends on your real life and your "successes".
I can't even talk about L2, don't know jackshit about it anymore last time I played is like 3 years ago. lol. I love my life altho the minor parts are that being alone in the mornings kinda sucks but thats the part this forum kicks in. Just gotta last another hour then I gotta get ready for Masters of Hardcore.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
Quote from: mark_elesse on November 07, 2009, 12:10:53 PM
mkay, got my answers :D and buah...the back of the CLK sucks big time xD c180 got more sixy ass  ::)
No dude you gotta lower it and it's sixy as hell. The CLK DTM AMG one is freaking nice.
(http://static.pagenstecher.de/uploads/7/70/708/7081/2006-Mercedes-Benz-CLK-DTM-AMG-Cabriolet-Left-Front-2-1280x960.jpg)

The CLK 63 AMG is nice aswell.

(http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mercedes-benz-clk-63-amg-black-series.jpg)

But they're in a way different price category I guess.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Golradyr on November 07, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
bOObs for Davy :D
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Deavon on November 07, 2009, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
No dude you gotta lower it and it's sixy as hell. The CLK DTM AMG one is freaking nice.
(http://static.pagenstecher.de/uploads/7/70/708/7081/2006-Mercedes-Benz-CLK-DTM-AMG-Cabriolet-Left-Front-2-1280x960.jpg)

The CLK 63 AMG is nice aswell.

(http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mercedes-benz-clk-63-amg-black-series.jpg)

But they're in a way different price category I guess.

The car of my dreams :D

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6665/shelbysupersnake.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/shelbysupersnake.jpg/)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Deavon on November 07, 2009, 08:22:20 PM
Quote from: mark_elesse on November 07, 2009, 08:20:58 PM
you should buy a Truck fo' your fat gay ass ! also, you wanna sell your Harley  ? :D:D:D

You got Harley FAG !!burububrubrburbuburburbrburburburbuburrbubur !!!!
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: PolSilv3r on November 07, 2009, 11:04:43 PM
May I spam here too?  ::)
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Darkloola on November 08, 2009, 07:40:29 AM
Quote from: RaV3NCLaW on November 03, 2009, 09:55:23 PM
Ello NM ppl ;

Track plz... if you listen to NM noobs that dunno how to play daggers dont apply the same updated on every other server.. or at least in this case infinity, cause now archers/tyrants/glads etc use daggers instead of bows/fists/duals and actually do massive dmg.

A friend is a dager and he can reach 6k p atk... i can reach 7,4 k with bow... so he has 1,4k p atk less then me with a FCKING DAGGER :) and there are no resist buffs for daggers ; for archers you have songs with lame boosted reuse and this incredibly stupid instant dance that makes archers not playable at least on server wher good players play i dunno the case on NM.

Track your doing a great job with other updates but plz when you dicide to nerf/boost chars dont ask random ppl or i dunno how you do it... but seams you have no idea what chars are capable of or what gear/buffs etc they must/can use.

On infinity dagers are the new DE/TY's... with 350 run speed ;

This may work for NM... but it doesnt work for us.... mybe we need a GM like you?

There's a time for every class in this game at DN severs. Raven i've never been thinking that u'll be crying on forum. As a matter of fact u had ur time for a lonnnnnnnng period. Let them be.............
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Dag on November 08, 2009, 09:27:25 AM
prefer old style

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Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Dag on November 08, 2009, 09:27:25 AM
prefer old style

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Old Mustang > new Mustang.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: PolSilv3r on November 08, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
I prefere this one:

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Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PM
Quote from: TrackZero on November 06, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
I wonder who have bigger tool , Kidicarus or Mr. Emiel  ;D

I have the bigger tool, but Emiel is the bigger tool.

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
Is that a challenge? if it is you're on.
We don't need any challenge when you're tossing out beautifull sentences like;  "You're 4 years older as me"  "Everybody could had done it"  your texts are full of theese small grammatical errors that shows you're not as fluent in english as you think.

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
Maybe it's not a symbol of status with the people you call friends. Seriously dude... I saw your picture and you're one those guys that stays single till he's 40/45 and then marrys a Polish chick with 3 childeren.
Seriously dude how hard can it be to look at the right picture? I've told you for like a year that it's very kind of you to say I look 30+ but you are looking at the wrong picture.

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
You're 4 years older as me. lol. Besides I can get girlfriends in a sec two on the right two on the left. You just have to remind them once a while that they're with you, and that you're not with them.
Emiel just because you finally got a girlfriend and lost your cherry it doesn't mean that we all are out looking to get hitched up.

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 07, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
I don't call it cheating. If someone else is smarter as you and you both make a test it's cheating because he has more knowledge? Everybody could had done it, they just didn't find the right way to do it. And till this day nobody succeeded in doing it, only me and a real life friend so yes, I think I can state that I'm smarter then the avarange player here. About the walker. You want to say that you never used walker? 99% of the server does/did it.
No I never used walker.... But Herami sent me your walker back in c3 so I started it once to sell items since the server DC'd every 15 mins. And what you are describing is actually the definition of an exploit/cheat... So yeah. And your simile about knowledge on a test is just freaking retarded lol.
I can also draw retarded parallels look; If you succesfully rob a 7/11 you are smarter then everyone else cause they just never figured out how.


PS. I wouldn't even want to drive a Mercedes.... Thats the type of car desperate rich folks buy to compensate for their tiny genetalia.
My last car was a Honda Civic 1992 that I bought for like 300$, I honestly couldn't care less as long as it gets me from A-B.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PM
I have the bigger tool, but Emiel is the bigger tool.
Only to bad that you never use your tool, ain't it?

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PMWe don't need any challenge when you're tossing out beautifull sentences like;  "You're 4 years older as me"  "Everybody could had done it"  your texts are full of theese small grammatical errors that shows you're not as fluent in english as you think.
as or then who cares.


Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PMSeriously dude how hard can it be to look at the right picture? I've told you for like a year that it's very kind of you to say I look 30+ but you are looking at the wrong picture.
Im looking at the wrong picture... You posted it yourself and said "me blablabl after blablabla with no shower" or something like that. So uhm...

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PMEmiel just because you finally got a girlfriend and lost your cherry it doesn't mean that we all are out looking to get hitched up.
I don't have any girlfriends there are just girls that believe that I am her boyfriend, big difference.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PMNo I never used walker.... But Herami sent me your walker back in c3 so I started it once to sell items since the server DC'd every 15 mins. And what you are describing is actually the definition of an exploit/cheat... So yeah. And your simile about knowledge on a test is just freaking retarded lol.
I can also draw retarded parallels look; If you succesfully rob a 7/11 you are smarter then everyone else cause they just never figured out how.
You never used walker and 1 line further you did, so what is it? Well yes if you don't get caught it shows that you've done it smarter then others. I still don't call it exploiting.


Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 01:21:06 PMPS. I wouldn't even want to drive a Mercedes.... Thats the type of car desperate rich folks buy to compensate for their tiny genetalia.
My last car was a Honda Civic 1992 that I bought for like 300$, I honestly couldn't care less as long as it gets me from A-B.
Everybody wants a Mercedes just not everybody can afford one then they say "I don't wanna drive one". You're really a poor excuse of a male with you Civic. Not because it was only 300$ but because it's Japanese. Oh and of course many many more things like spending more money on a remote controll then as for your car. Go hire a car and maybe you can use that "bigger tool" of you once a while.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 06, 2009, 12:39:44 PM
I don't give a jackshit about anyone here if someone would die, care. I have something you don't have, friends, girlfriend, and a nice automobile!

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
I don't have any girlfriends there are just girls that believe that I am her boyfriend, big difference.
You need to keep track of your lies, contradictions just makes you look stupid. And you live with your dad in your mansion whilst I live with 2 friends. Not really sure why you assume I don't have any friends... Is it so hard to believe that not everyone likes your lifestyle, and being an elitist asshole is not something we all want to achieve?

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
You never used walker and 1 line further you did, so what is it? Well yes if you don't get caught it shows that you've done it smarter then others. I still don't call it exploiting.
My statement stands... I never use walker, but yes I have tested it once in town to auto-login a dwarf that was selling pots. This went on for a total of 6 hours 3 years ago. Is that explanation satisfactory to you?


Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Everybody wants a Mercedes just not everybody can afford one then they say "I don't wanna drive one". You're really a poor excuse of a male with you Civic. Not because it was only 300$ but because it's Japanese. Oh and of course many many more things like spending more money on a remote controll then as for your car. Go hire a car and maybe you can use that "bigger tool" of you once a while.
My mom drives a mercedes, it's not exactly a statussymbol over here. And now I haven't even had a car for 2 years since i live smack down in the middle of downtown oslo so having a car would actually be a drawback for me.


Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
as or then who cares.
LoooL you claim your english is flawless and that you would beat me in a test, and 1 post later it's like "grammar.... pffff who cares"

Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
Im looking at the wrong picture... You posted it yourself and said "me blablabl after blablabla with no shower" or something like that. So uhm...
Do I still look 30+? Well thanks mate! Or are you just to stubborn to swallow your pride and say that you've been looking at the  wrong picture?
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: SpoilerAngel on November 08, 2009, 04:56:38 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PM
You need to keep track of your lies, contradictions just makes you look stupid. And you live with your dad in your mansion whilst I live with 2 friends. Not really sure why you assume I don't have any friends... Is it so hard to believe that not everyone likes your lifestyle, and being an elitist asshole is not something we all want to achieve?
My statement stands... I never use walker, but yes I have tested it once in town to auto-login a dwarf that was selling pots. This went on for a total of 6 hours 3 years ago. Is that explanation satisfactory to you?

My mom drives a mercedes, it's not exactly a statussymbol over here. And now I haven't even had a car for 2 years since i live smack down in the middle of downtown oslo so having a car would actually be a drawback for me.

LoooL you claim your english is flawless and that you would beat me in a test, and 1 post later it's like "grammar.... pffff who cares"
Do I still look 30+? Well thanks mate! Or are you just to stubborn to swallow your pride and say that you've been looking at the  wrong picture?


lol Fyx just leave him imo xD he`s already to pwnd
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: ehlena on November 08, 2009, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on November 08, 2009, 04:56:38 PM
lol Fyx just leave him imo xD he`s already to pwnd
clearly..
Just need to read emiel answers to see he's a complete retard.
and if he has a clk, it's a 1/50e model toy.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PM
You need to keep track of your lies, contradictions just makes you look stupid. And you live with your dad in your mansion whilst I live with 2 friends. Not really sure why you assume I don't have any friends... Is it so hard to believe that not everyone likes your lifestyle, and being an elitist asshole is not something we all want to achieve?
Well having a girlfriend is in my terms having someone to freak with. I have that and not only with one. Dude you sound more poor everyday now you can't even afford to buy your own house. I'm not a elite asshole, I'm a Alpha beast.


Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PMMy statement stands... I never use walker, but yes I have tested it once in town to auto-login a dwarf that was selling pots. This went on for a total of 6 hours 3 years ago. Is that explanation satisfactory to you?
So you used it.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PMMy mom drives a mercedes, it's not exactly a statussymbol over here. And now I haven't even had a car for 2 years since i live smack down in the middle of downtown oslo so having a car would actually be a drawback for me.
How the freak could it be a drawback? Having a car is a must for everybody.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PMLoooL you claim your english is flawless and that you would beat me in a test, and 1 post later it's like "grammar.... pffff who cares"
You think I put any time of writing here? I don't even read back what I wrote so it's understandable that there are some minor failures in some of the sentences. Altho I'm pretty sure that if I would do my best and actually put some time in it that you'll find non. Besides this is just the writing, someone from England can't even tell that it isn't my native language.

Quote from: kidicarus on November 08, 2009, 03:21:57 PMDo I still look 30+? Well thanks mate! Or are you just to stubborn to swallow your pride and say that you've been looking at the  wrong picture?
What wrong picture? I only saw one and that was the one from the "show yourself" thread. I'm talking about this picture; http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7800/arvikac.jpg So either you post fake pictures, wouldn't make sence tho because who would lie about that being you, you could had picked a better one. Or you're just a retard and talk about pictures that I never saw.



Quote from: ehlena on November 08, 2009, 06:44:58 PM
clearly..
Just need to read emiel answers to see he's a complete retard.
and if he has a clk, it's a 1/50e model toy.
Don't be jealous but I don't have a CLK, I got a SL 500.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 09:58:48 PM
Quote from: SpoilerAngel on November 08, 2009, 04:56:38 PM
lol Fyx just leave him imo xD he`s already to pwnd
If you're the guy "Spoilerangel" from IG you'd better shut up because you're the biggest retard in history.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: Phate on November 09, 2009, 08:58:07 AM
just lol at this guy Mr.Emiel... there are two options of explanation about what the hell is going on about him:
1] he is just an ordinary guy, job of copymachine service man or whatever who simply creates a bubble around his virtual identity - just to a] piss off people on forum ...b] worse, still true about his dreaming on the virtual identity, but because he is solving some of his mental issues (i would give him maybe +1 if its option 1a) as in that case he obviously would be making a decent roleplay in that case!  :P )

2] everything what he claims to be and his opinions are 100% true...then just lol...
- girls topic - probably some mother issues as was stated above... or he just is an overegoed shampoo boy.. whatever
- money topic - dude, u r flaming the other guy about being sales manager, that he achieved nothing...and show-off-ing that u r a millionaire in your age of 20(? whatever), when your money comes from your daddy? seriously... u just cant be serious about it.. think about it once again.. and come back when u will earn something by YOURSELF.. coz only THAT is meaning of achieving something... lol... "i drive mercedes, my daddy bought me it.. and what did you achieved in your life?" ..roftl, joke of a day, should be carved into the stone

...one more thing, seriously, i dont get u, why would u spend your time on L2 private server without real "customer service" ..for example...instead of official server, spending few bank notes (euros) by which u probably clean your ass at toilet using them instead of paper... Why the hell you would have even bother to search for free private server in a first place? ...just to get some with stuck subs? o rly?:)

anyway, thx for providing me fun, as last days i can read this topic in the daily routine, together with checking my company growth on market and the other daily news in my country...

god bless sarcasm

ps: looking forward to next episode of "the rich boy confession" forum series
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: SpoilerAngel on November 09, 2009, 11:40:40 AM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 09:58:48 PM
If you're the guy "Spoilerangel" from IG you'd better shut up because you're the biggest retard in history.

Woa woa QQ? I Bet i pwnd u so badly IG that u can only flame me xDDDDDDDD pathetic Hommie <3
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: kidicarus on November 09, 2009, 12:23:06 PM
Quote from: Mr. Emiel on November 08, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
Well having a girlfriend is in my terms having someone to freak with. I have that and not only with one. Dude you sound more poor everyday now you can't even afford to buy your own house. I'm not a elite asshole, I'm a Alpha beast.

So you used it.
How the freak could it be a drawback? Having a car is a must for everybody.
You think I put any time of writing here? I don't even read back what I wrote so it's understandable that there are some minor failures in some of the sentences. Altho I'm pretty sure that if I would do my best and actually put some time in it that you'll find non. Besides this is just the writing, someone from England can't even tell that it isn't my native language.
What wrong picture? I only saw one and that was the one from the "show yourself" thread. I'm talking about this picture; http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7800/arvikac.jpg So either you post fake pictures, wouldn't make sence tho because who would lie about that being you, you could had picked a better one. Or you're just a retard and talk about pictures that I never saw.


Don't be jealous but I don't have a CLK, I got a SL 500.

You're a fag. But since everyone else is starting to see you for who you are I guess my work here is done. Peace out hombre try and leave with some dignity.
Title: Re: Dager boost effect on infinity
Post by: FadeAway on November 09, 2009, 03:02:19 PM
I'm ashamed that emiel is from my country >_<

Please don't think all dutch people are like him haha xD.