Okey , cant stand this anymore. Was keep on waiting that something will happen but for quite some things are keeps bothering me.
You can call me sided or not sided corrupted or not corrupted but as a GM of this network i wanna know what the fk is going on?!And why is it going on?!
1st of all im asking this because you players constantly complain about UNBALANCED pvp UNBALANCED chars UNBALANCED weapons in PvP while you never PvP , so it makes me wonder how did you test that by killing your bot? Cause every time to get some pvp from you guys i have to summon like half of servers RBs and <MAYBE> you will appear for PVP!
Whats wrong with you guys , i mean i know its nice to farm but seriously choosing to farm with alts while you can do some pvp at least 1x at day makes me wonder are you playing right game? I mean in the end what can happen so BAD , that you got defeated? Insulted ? Well we fixed that no more insults if you wanna say that! So whats wrong?
Im asking you all this because im giving myself 666% to make all things for you fix all the hell bugs you report , making new things etc... etc.. etc.. et freaking c, but you still complaining how server sux blababla while you camping towns or logging alts to farm :(
Or you gonna change this attitude or ill really give up of everything and ill let you enjoy what you do now.
And dont tell me you dont have enough people online , i checked clans and they are like 35+ online and i have checked like 4-5 clans who i know...
Jeeez >:( >:( >:( >:( :-X :-X :-X :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: TrackZero on February 21, 2012, 08:48:17 PM
Okey , cant stand this anymore. Was keep on waiting that something will happen but for quite some things are keeps bothering me.
You can call me sided or not sided corrupted or not corrupted but as a GM of this network i wanna know what the fk is going on?!And why is it going on?!
1st of all im asking this because you players constantly complain about UNBALANCED pvp UNBALANCED chars UNBALANCED weapons in PvP while you never PvP , so it makes me wonder how did you test that by killing your bot? Cause every time to get some pvp from you guys i have to summon like half of servers RBs and <MAYBE> you will appear for PVP!
Whats wrong with you guys , i mean i know its nice to farm but seriously choosing to farm with alts while you can do some pvp at least 1x at day makes me wonder are you playing right game? I mean in the end what can happen so BAD , that you got defeated? Insulted ? Well we fixed that no more insults if you wanna say that! So whats wrong?
Im asking you all this because im giving myself 666% to make all things for you fix all the hell bugs you report , making new things etc... etc.. etc.. et freaking c, but you still complaining how server sux blababla while you camping towns or logging alts to farm :(
Or you gonna change this attitude or ill really give up of everything and ill let you enjoy what you do now.
And dont tell me you dont have enough people online , i checked clans and they are like 35+ online and i have checked like 4-5 clans who i know...
Jeeez >:( >:( >:( >:( :-X :-X :-X :-\ :-\ :-\
http://www.dragon-network.net/banlist/infinitenightmare/
there u have reason, after banning 2 pvp pioneers who all the time shout and scream to go out of town for fun, there is REALLY no other pvpzors here
Quote from: Peorexo on February 21, 2012, 08:52:59 PM
http://www.dragon-network.net/banlist/infinitenightmare/
there u have reason, after banning 2 pvp pioneers who all the time shout and scream to go out of town for fun, there is REALLY no other pvpzors here
Better NO pvp then logging 8 boxes and .........
HOWEVER this is not a subject of this section so dont change the topic of it , else ill just delete you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now for the REAL reason, not some dumb "you bant 2 pleyers menx!"...
Xp plays an important role here, losing it in PvP for some sort of reward is not worth it since you have to grind mobs for ages to get little xp.
Difference in equipment is another part of it. For instance, someone who is full dynasty wont even consider going to such an event thinking they will surely lose infront of a couple of people in vesper with full raid jewels.
Another reason would be that people set goals when they go online like : i wanna level up to 85 today or i wanna farm for a recipe, or i wanna sell some item. So they would rather stick with that and get it over with than go to the event.
There's no server with fully balanced chars but this one is one of the best balance servers, so people complaining about this are just butthurt that they suck at PvP.
Communication is one other issue, if you can't make people understand you, you can't get people to join your event. During the event i heard alot of people on clan saying they had trouble understanding what you want them to do.
And for the grand finale...the server community started losing interest in PvP since the server got upgraded from c4/IL, face it, people were PvP-ing everywhere and all the time during C4/IL. Now the difference between sets, levels, jewels, skill enchants brings a too big of a gap between players for them to even bother trying to fight someone with better equipment than them.
i think it's not about spawning RB all around, in my case, If i got team i got pvp, i won't go pvp with 7 tanks + bd coz it's useless. We got kinda another point of view People in clan it's not always team for pvp
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
i think it's not about spawning RB all around, in my case, If i got team i got pvp, i won't go pvp with 7 tanks + bd coz it's useless. We got kinda another point of view People in clan it's not always team for pvp
+1
Imo it was just bad timing or smthg!
Cause like some1 said here alrdy if we have a full party we go pvp! And atm you need all buffs to fight some classes! And honestly most ppl want to play uberkillzor classes and there's just not enough suport classes around anymore, and most of them only log during tw/siege! Honestly, we where disussing that in clan chat not long ago, who wants to play sr/sws atm? nobody! he's weak compared to some combos here, and other suportclasses to! Thats my opinion.
I can recall 2 raid events where we were seriously outnumbered and people didnt come out of harbor. In the first time we suffered a serious defeat trying to pvp, then we came back and no one left harbor, our numbers were the same. And all ppl just stood watching, like nothing was goin on, dunno i guess sometimes in raid event ppl just wanna kill raids and not bother with pvp.
Track you fixed insults and rewards, dunno what else can be done.
About gear differences and bad pvp teams, that is all true, those issues change people´s perspective of pvp. And alts for farming, i dont do it, never did, never will but some people just wanna pve i guess. Also lack of supports in some clans\parties...
k i could take some ppl to AL, Me Tyia and Birk, for what? die in glory? since you had 3 bp's we could only run to giran.
Btw. when yday we went to pvp with Jorge coz 2 cb was at westlands they came back with 1 pt + 2 bp's on back xD
Yesterday? We didnt even have full party... no pp buffs, sws bot... but ok, we had 3 bishops etc... lol
But ok. And u had the kamael, so u werent u, tyia and birk.
next time call your giran stairs clanmembers
In the last 2 weeks we pvped sometimes (having same numbers or even u guys having slightly more), and MORE THAN 1 time, and u cant deny that, when u "lose" a pvp, some of u guys simply do logout and the pm comes like " ok we dont have ppl anymore, good fight". I can recall perfectly, 2 times at wastelands.
track better make some nice events, then spawn rb's/boxes and force us to pvp. like zaled said, w/o team pvp vs party with 2 bp's and 1 ol, it not fun, it's just free point's.
p.s. hide and seek is funny, it's give chance to earn some coins.
p.s.s. and about farm on alt: most of all ppl farm with low equipment, coz they wanna reach smth better, on main it's bring nothing with half pt port HB start farm, then come enemy with full pt, kill u soe to westaland and kill u again.
4ek
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
k i could take some ppl to AL, Me Tyia and Birk, for what? die in glory? since you had 3 bp's we could only run to giran.
Btw. when yday we went to pvp with Jorge coz 2 cb was at westlands they came back with 1 pt + 2 bp's on back xD
and how many times we fighted 1pt vs your 2-3pt i past ? at least we tryed :(
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
and how many times we fighted 1pt vs your 2-3pt i past ? at least we tryed :(
We keep pvping 14 vs like 28 and we keep comming back...
same numbers make them leave and saying that they got not enough ppl
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
k i could take some ppl to AL, Me Tyia and Birk, for what? die in glory? since you had 3 bp's we could only run to giran.
Btw. when yday we went to pvp with Jorge coz 2 cb was at westlands they came back with 1 pt + 2 bp's on back xD
But it has been the same for weeks: when we manage to get some mass pvp (if we are lucky enough to get some action), if your side loses the battle, you never come back (don't know why).
And they take AGES to comeback...
Dunno about what You talk here.
Yes, I work whole day, after work need spend time with wife etc.
But I log every evening and always go pvp, everyday...
ps. Just end of the month is different couse of hard enemys share on oly, avoid fights, switch ppl in teams for not get them etc. So need camp hero monument when I'm online
Fix that, so you dont hit also your friends WS+Mojo... LOL
Thats perfectly normal Feli, all got a life... but why some guys leave when u lose? (not you, you send the pm :P )
Quote from: MIRAA on February 21, 2012, 09:41:41 PM
But it has been the same for weeks: when we manage to get some mass pvp (if we are lucky enough to get some action), if your side loses the battle, you never come back (don't know why).
nice bullsh1t xD we always come back if we have lets say not ppl but needed classes. but for sure i wont pvp w/o bp and ol/wc in pt. and if they log out or we dont have them than yes ofc we dont back. ofc i cant tell it about all, but atleast this is true for my pt.
p.s. dont tell me bullsh1t like log bots and come. i prefer active ppl in pt not bots.
p.p.s. i rly intrested who is this da pro TiagoRamos in game, cuz for now u an wanna be pro noname and this start tell me alot also: Date Registered: November 09, 2011, 09:00:04 am
p.p.p.s. dont like us as enemy gtfo and try find better.
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 09:39:02 PM
and how many times we fighted 1pt vs your 2-3pt i past ? at least we tryed :(
we were also back but after 4-5 attemps we gave up coz it was useles
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 09:49:44 PM
we were also back but after 4-5 attemps we gave up coz it was useles
no one of u died anyway...not enough damage from us lol
but was fun
Drama: I am talking about what I saw ingame, and in the last week (or the other), happened 2 times.
We "won" 2 fair pvps on wastelands, different days. then u left. Keep those retard insults for yourself, i dditn insult anyone or used stupid irony
Quote from: TiagoRamos on February 21, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
no one of u died anyway...not enough damage from us lol
but was fun
Drama: I am talking about what I saw ingame, and in the last week (or the other), happened 2 times.
We "won" 2 fair pvps on wastelands, different days. then u left. Keep those retard insults for yourself, i dditn insult anyone or used stupid irony
Send him your business card or something.
Quote from: TiagoRamos on February 21, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
no one of u died anyway...not enough damage from us lol
but was fun
Drama: I am talking about what I saw ingame, and in the last week (or the other), happened 2 times.
We "won" 2 fair pvps on wastelands, different days. then u left. Keep those retard insults for yourself, i dditn insult anyone or used stupid irony
i have no idea about these 2 pvp in last the last week cuz was not there. every ur post show only 1 thing: our enemy sux, noobs etc and we r da pro. so who is retard here?
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 09:49:07 PM
log bots and come. i prefer active ppl in pt not bots
And why you need to log bots? Cause for every actif suport there's 10 top combos!! Imo it's all about turning suportclasses more atractif!!
Damn if more ppl would be willing to play them, omg we would have pvp all the time.
Drama, Ok, you werent present, that doesnt mean that didnt happen, and i RECALL really well.
again, keep the retarded insults for yourself and stop the stupid irony. it happened like im saying :)
Quote from: Javardsnegger on February 21, 2012, 10:01:02 PM
And why you need to log bots? Cause for every actif suport there's 10 top combos!! Imo it's all about turning suportclasses more atractif!!
Damn if more ppl would be willing to play them, omg we would have pvp all the time.
im lf solution how force ppl play on supports chars not 1 or 2 month but much more and cant find till now. all wanna be mega uberpwnage dd this is foking big problem.
Omfg stay on topic you two!!
Another reason why flame section is needed!! Send pm's to eachother or get a room!! This is a serious topic!
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:03:42 PM
im lf solution how force ppl play on supports chars not 1 or 2 month but much more and cant find till now. all wanna be mega uberpwnage dd this is foking big problem.
Exactly.
Quote from: Javardsnegger on February 21, 2012, 10:05:49 PM
Omfg stay on topic you two!!
Another reason why flame section is needed!! Send pm's to eachother or get a room!! This is a serious topic!
Exactly.
lol your signature xD this kid act like FTP :D ?
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
lol your signature xD this kid act like FTP :D ?
no its u during pvp
i play support now, but tell me plz how i can farm (on main) to get any sh1t to equip me a bit better. y i back to dn after eu-off, and my clan m8s already in vesper full attribute with top wepons. so 1 think that i can do it farm on alt. even fortress i cant farm with my char
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:10:37 PM
no its u during pvp
stfu "back to your cave" and keep your comment to yourself
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:03:42 PM
im lf solution how force ppl play on supports chars not 1 or 2 month but much more and cant find till now. all wanna be mega uberpwnage dd this is foking big problem.
What u say here is true, people would rather be mega p00nzords than be active supporters, IMO that is fukin wrong and people need to learn that parties need a buffer, supports etc. U can still be good and be a support char, but what are u gonna do? everyone wanna make huberz00rds, I´d rather help my party with buffs and ocasional lol than having to miss pvp cause im just another pew pew.
Quote from: 6bIK on February 21, 2012, 10:12:40 PM
i play support now, but tell me plz how i can farm (on main) to get any sh1t to equip me a bit better. y i back to dn after eu-off, and my clan m8s already in vesper full attribute with top wepons. so 1 think that i can do it farm on alt. even fortress i cant farm with my char
Why dont they help you? :\
GG talking to a wall
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 10:12:56 PM
stfu "back to your cave" and keep your comment to yourself
truth hurt, yeah? :P
p.s. and an cave is place for animals like u ^^
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 10:09:33 PM
lol your signature xD this kid act like FTP :D ?
stop spam here
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
truth hurt, yeah? :P
p.s. and an cave is place for animals like u ^^
u2 ;]
Quote from: 6bIK on February 21, 2012, 10:18:02 PM
stop spam here
u2 ;]
Cmon lets keep the conversation serious ffs.
+1
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
truth hurt, yeah? :P
p.s. and an cave is place for animals like u ^^
what truth ? leave town and then speak about pvp
Dont see the problem tbh.
"Enemy: Hi, make a team and come pvp
Enemy: Sure, where we meet?
"Enemy: Wherever you want, we are 3.
Enemy: Aite, we will 3 aswell cu there in 5 mins.
Pvp started, enjoy
Quote from: Naku on February 21, 2012, 10:15:01 PM
What u say here is true, people would rather be mega p00nzords than be active supporters, IMO that is fukin wrong and people need to learn that parties need a buffer, supports etc. U can still be good and be a support char, but what are u gonna do? everyone wanna make huberz00rds, Iґd rather help my party with buffs and ocasional lol than having to miss pvp cause im just another pew pew.
Why dont they help you? :\
how? they should spend me coins for set or smth? we try go tiat, but problem is that when tiat spawn in clan 10 ppl max, but need 36 to join. and what should i farm, spoil vesper parts or what? xD
Quote from: 6bIK on February 21, 2012, 10:24:01 PM
how? they should spend me coins for set or smth? we try go tiat, but problem is that when tiat spawn in clan 10 ppl max, but need 36 to join. and what should i farm, spoil vesper parts or what? xD
This is no news to you but some people get a freaking lot of coin from jewels\energies, OFC its not supper fast but if u need to spoil and xp\sp\adena and items ur mates should help you, isnt that what a clan is for? A clan is not just a bunch of war buddies imo.
I recall leveling a lot of chars in HB with my char, and often people from enemie clans of GoK asked me for party, and i asked why? dont you have a clan to help u? "they are top etc", that sh1t is not right...at all.
Quote from: Garro on February 21, 2012, 10:23:44 PM
So i guess , 7 tanks or at least 6 of them should reroll for other classes that are usefull for pt .
Let me answer for ur incoming answer , If they dont want to change class or they think that nobody can tell them what char should they play , let them sit in stairs and wait for nothing , lets see if they will like their chars so much without any action .
I have no idea how much u know eachother but at least some of u , mostly active ones , should have acc infos to other ones , less active for sure ( if they are supports )
are u rly smart xD
tell some your tank/th sell his armor and rerol to support, what u will get as answer? xD and is it simple to reroll now day, i dont think so. hard to sell set/weapon and buy other1. and it take time even char from 0 to 85 + enchant skills
Quote from: Naku on February 21, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
This is no news to you but some people get a freaking lot of coin from jewels\energies, OFC its not supper fast but if u need to spoil and xp\sp\adena and items ur mates should help you, isnt that what a clan is for? A clan is not just a bunch of war buddies imo.
I recall leveling a lot of chars in HB with my char, and often people from enemie clans of GoK asked me for party, and i asked why? dont you have a clan to help u? "they are top etc", that sh1t is not right...at all.
and how many take it time? xD
Sometimes its the thing to do... otherwise, no party for him...
Quote from: 6bIK on February 21, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
are u rly smart xD
tell some your tank/th sell his armor and rerol to support, what u will get as answer? xD and is it simple to reroll now day, i dont think so. hard to sell set/weapon and buy other1. and it take time even char from 0 to 85 + enchant skills
You would be amazed at what team work can do, and that team work char is in every siege and almost all pvp we have atm. Its not impossible cmon, when there is a will there is a way.
Quote from: Garro on February 21, 2012, 10:23:44 PM
Let me answer for ur incoming answer , If they dont want to change class or they think that nobody can tell them what char should they play , let them sit in stairs and wait for nothing , lets see if they will like their chars so much without any action .
unfortunatelly its true, they prefer camp stairs or cry about buff than reroll to supports.
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 10:20:43 PM
what truth ? leave town and then speak about pvp
when my pt online and ppl not busy at oly or somewhere else i go. but for sure i wont go pvp with 8 tanks in pt for die in glory. so gtfo with ur theories kido.
Quote from: Garro on February 21, 2012, 10:37:10 PM
Well infact thats pretty easy , we had a lot of tanks aswell , even now we have them but much less , they just hadnt pt in some pvps / RB actions and they decide to reroll for something more usefull , or at least they made second char to play . Even if u are TH/PAL or PR/SK u can make second char that is usefull and just change EQ if its needed .
true, but back to topic ;)
p.s. i have alot of chars, and all of them half support, so it's not my fault at all that some clans dont go pvp
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 10:38:07 PM
unfortunatelly its true, they prefer camp stairs or cry about buff than reroll to supports.
when my pt online and ppl not busy at oly or somewhere else i go. but for sure i wont go pvp with 8 tanks in pt for die in glory. so gtfo with ur theories kido.
so start troll forum with glory :D , huh u already do it :D
Quote from: 6bIK on February 21, 2012, 10:32:36 PM
are u rly smart xD
tell some your tank/th sell his armor and rerol to support, what u will get as answer? xD and is it simple to reroll now day, i dont think so. hard to sell set/weapon and buy other1. and it take time even char from 0 to 85 + enchant skills
and how many take it time? xD
If u are in need of skipping time donate. If its that urgent get coins and buy stuff.
Quote from: PainMaster on February 21, 2012, 10:40:25 PM
so start troll forum with glory :D , huh u already do it :D
im just answering for trolls like u.
Quote from: FeelmyBow on February 21, 2012, 10:22:54 PM
Dont see the problem tbh.
"Enemy: Hi, make a team and come pvp
Enemy: Sure, where we meet?
"Enemy: Wherever you want, we are 3.
Enemy: Aite, we will 3 aswell cu there in 5 mins.
Pvp started, enjoy
who is doing in this way lolz ? XDDD
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
who is doing in this way lolz ? XDDD
hm we did so in past on infinity noob, forgot? :) heh i missed fi, nw and into as enemy rly so much:/
Face it, not everyone can get a team to PvP. It might become a problem, people who don't have a team would rather farm/trade do whatever else than PvP. Why would you go PvP if it's pure suicide?
Quote from: Naku on February 21, 2012, 10:41:09 PM
If u are in need of skipping time donate. If its that urgent get coins and buy stuff.
donating is not problem, problem is ppl, our online dont rise up, we have +-900 online, but 600 offshops.
p.s. track make rb more stronger, ppl can farm them alone.
Quote from: Garro on February 21, 2012, 10:28:27 PM
Well it depends of enemy i guess , most of AoD's / BA counts BP like smth that is not a part of PT or at least shouldnt be in party during PVP , every single request from them ends like this -> YEA U HAVE 2 BPS < INVITE EVEN MORE FOR US
Also there is some difference between 3 v 3 with full buff and 3 v 3 on sell buff , some ppl just cant stand fact that some ppl can be full buffed while they arent buffers .
If everyone logs a buffer (1 dual) you can be on full buff, so thats not an excuse. I did that with Fade and Noobs everytime.
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
who is doing in this way lolz ? XDDD
How many times did we pm you and Tyia to make a pt and go for pvp?
noob!
Quote from: FeelmyBow on February 21, 2012, 10:59:41 PM
How many times did we pm you and Tyia to make a pt and go for pvp?
noob!
3 Times ! XDD
nah i'm jokking, i miss that a bit :(
Quote from: Zaled on February 21, 2012, 11:02:56 PM
3 Times ! XDD
nah i'm jokking, i miss that a bit :(
Aye, well im gone already. Perhaps Noobs continues this way, i saw he was buying new gear.
Quote from: FeelmyBow on February 21, 2012, 10:59:41 PM
How many times did we pm you and Tyia to make a pt and go for pvp?
noob!
there is difference, some ppl prefer log bots some no.
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 21, 2012, 11:05:32 PM
there is difference, some ppl prefer log bots some no.
I prefer active buffers aswell, but if i can't manage them i log bots.
I think a Good solution will be to upgrade L2 version :D, cuz GF its kind of old and suxs for most of players (most players are 85), and other thing u can do its to make available to get Vesper (normal) set for farm with quest, like it is in GE, or other more advanced versions of L2, in this way the guys that dont have change to farm a lot, can get decent set and weapon for PvP, i know that nothing is impossible in this game, and not everything is about donation, cuz i have good equipment and best dagger on server and i have never donate, im a farmer guy, and seriously is not about CB, FTP, Mojoo, WS, WP, Etc., that pvp doesnt always go good, its hard to now make pvp cuz all clans have lack of supports, and its a pain in the ass to reroll, why? easy, first no so much ppl buy stuff that u sell, and if u have spend hundreds of coins in ur char, ull think 5 times before leaving it :D.
I know ur events of hide and seek had help lots of ppl, cuz damn rewards are awesome, bunch of crazy coins and more, and i really thank u for that,, but i think we need to get more ppl to play this server, so in this way we can have old times pvp, with lots of players, supports, and fun.
P.S. Another way that will be damn cool its like other severs (wont say which ones) have PvP Exp, what i mean is that u gain experience killing ppl, so in that way u play more pvp and less farm of experience and SP :D, dunno was just a nice idea :D
Quote from: Phonex on February 22, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
I think a Good solution will be to upgrade L2 version :D, cuz GF its kind of old and suxs for most of players (most players are 85), and other thing u can do its to make available to get Vesper (normal) set for farm with quest, like it is in GE, or other more advanced versions of L2, in this way the guys that dont have change to farm a lot, can get decent set and weapon for PvP, i know that nothing is impossible in this game, and not everything is about donation, cuz i have good equipment and best dagger on server and i have never donate, im a farmer guy, and seriously is not about CB, FTP, Mojoo, WS, WP, Etc., that pvp doesnt always go good, its hard to now make pvp cuz all clans have lack of supports, and its a pain in the ass to reroll, why? easy, first no so much ppl buy stuff that u sell, and if u have spend hundreds of coins in ur char, ull think 5 times before leaving it :D.
I know ur events of hide and seek had help lots of ppl, cuz damn rewards are awesome, bunch of crazy coins and more, and i really thank u for that,, but i think we need to get more ppl to play this server, so in this way we can have old times pvp, with lots of players, supports, and fun.
when they update server, main problem will be A LOT of bugs, and ppl start cry about them. maybe old player come back, maybe come new player, bot they leave server in half year coz of this bags. i know isnt simple to repair them all in 1-2 days, but as we saw/see they repair them slowly
A merge with DN could push those ppl out of town 8)
Quote from: SauroN on February 22, 2012, 01:20:02 AM
A merge with DN could push those ppl out of town 8)
keep dreaming
Problem is simple but hard to fix, everyone want UBER killer, none like / wish to play with needed class, example of that: im the only "Active" wk from cb... its a dead class, mostly to be played by healer...
anyway... i think problem is that.. players who dont want to heal, but want to be healed...... want to be buffed but dont want to buff... problem is not community, but players on it...
I think we can filtrate trough all the bullshit the main problem! Wich is: Lack of suports>>suport are not atractif enough>>ppl don't play them.
Turn suport combos more atratif>>more ppl will play them>>more suports logged in>>more pvp!!
I don't think i can explain it any easier sry....!
he/wk was an used class b4. He/pp also! Sr/sws also... from all suport classes, the only 1 which remains playable (with avg equip) imo is pr/bd!
Just fix what you changed and i think we'll have more of such classes! I belive i told you this would hapen!!
Quote from: Di on February 22, 2012, 01:25:13 AM
Problem is simple but hard to fix, everyone want UBER killer, none like / wish to play with needed class, example of that: im the only "Active" wk from cb... its a dead class, mostly to be played by healer...
anyway... i think problem is that.. players who dont want to heal, but want to be healed...... want to be buffed but dont want to buff... problem is not community, but players on it...
biru stop cry about wk (summoners) , i played he/wk and th/wk, nice chars, yes maybe not oe like other classes, cant back to th, check signature xD
Quote from: Javardsnegger on February 22, 2012, 01:31:07 AM
I think we can filtrate trough all the bullshit the main problem! Wich is: Lack of suports>>suport are not atractif enough>>ppl don't play them.
Turn suport combos more atratif>>more ppl will play them>>more suports logged in>>more pvp!!
I don't think i can explain it any easier sry....!
he/wk was an used class b4. He/pp also! Sr/sws also... from all suport classes, the only 1 which remains playable (with avg equip) imo is pr/bd!
Just fix what you changed and i think we'll have more of such classes! I belive i told you this would hapen!!
main problem is low promotion. tbh if track check siges/tw all time, why he dont make video, why dont post yourube or other video hosts, why he dont make vote's and so on
p.s. track i know, i know that u tryed make this vote, but some websites had sam u, is not reas to stop, try others. u know how many ppl fro Poland play here, why dont try there, check some rus sites like l2top.ru and so on, if u need any idea, "we" as community are here, just ask ;)
Quote from: SauroN on February 22, 2012, 01:20:02 AM
A merge with DN could push those ppl out of town 8)
if u pk glasy w/o salvation, are u welcome ;D
I got aw/sk ... with wc/sws i can hit 500 crit rate, 1.5k atack speed, and around 4k p.atack .... a pw/sws can hit 500 crit rate , 1.5k atack speed but half of p.atack maybe less. Some classes are ment to hit high atack speed or c.speed and the limit kind of makes them unatractive. SR and PW should have a boost in p.tack and atack speed reised .. cuse that was their advantage. About wc/ol and BP/XX don't know what we can do but conclusion is good: WE NEED MORE SUPPORT COMBOS!!! i got 10 tanks almost 90% of the time logged ... but finding a WC or a BP is a pain in the ass and most of the time i got to dual box wich in pvp turns out to be crap cuse i can't focus on my main char...
Quote from: 6bIK
biru stop cry about wk (summoners) , i played he/wk and th/wk, nice chars, yes maybe not oe like other classes, cant back to th, check signature xD
stop, breath , read again, i have sure u can find out.
I i did not said anything about wk or etc, i said rare number of players play it, and still its a NEEDED class for pvp.. same as others classes and still players dont want to play it... nothing about weak or strong, but about be needed...
Quote from: Di on February 22, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
stop, breath , read again, i have sure u can find out
with second part of your post u have right, but i wrote for first part, y, class dead, but playable, i even was on oly and was funny, but hard ;)
Quote from: CrashOverAll on February 22, 2012, 01:56:28 AM
I got aw/sk ... with wc/sws i can hit 500 crit rate, 1.5k atack speed, and around 4k p.atack .... a pw/sws can hit 500 crit rate , 1.5k atack speed but half of p.atack maybe less. Some classes are ment to hit high atack speed or c.speed and the limit kind of makes them unatractive. SR and PW should have a boost in p.tack and atack speed reised .. cuse that was their advantage. About wc/ol and BP/XX don't know what we can do but conclusion is good: WE NEED MORE SUPPORT COMBOS!!! i got 10 tanks almost 90% of the time logged ... but finding a WC or a BP is a pain in the ass and most of the time i got to dual box wich in pvp turns out to be crap cuse i can't focus on my main char...
dunno wich buff u used, my th/wk on normal pvp buff with g.shild hit 1,5k crit (was half year ago)
Quote from: 6bIK on February 22, 2012, 02:01:53 AM
dunno wich buff u used, my th/wk on normal pvp buff with g.shild hit 1,5k crit (was half year ago)
it doesn't matter what how if when... point was elf fighter classes should have a littel boost or something changed about the atack speed (that should have been their bonus) just like sps had high c.speed ....
Damn i read the fukin 6 pages of pure spam and cry about "we need supports" and "i dont play sws/xx or bd/xx cause sux better i make tank/xx" omg keep playin on your uber char with bot at your back and try to be real pwnz0rds with random flagged guy outside town... dont even think about trying pvp with an organized clan with good players on what u think they are "sh1tty classes".
@Track: next time u wanna watch pvp just make like the other events... domination event, king of the hill, last man standing, dunno... use your imagination. Spawning bosses may help the newbies but greedy baztards farm them with alt chars...
cheers.
PS: im almost playin wc/ol all the time xD
i can tell u my opinion as a 4 years old player , low equiped , wich likes to pvp :
1. i spent a lot time farming for my dynasti items , ench skills , etc but 4 years of hard work is reduced to 1 shot dead for me from uber equiped players ... don't get me wrong cause there always were super strong guys , but after the nm merge there was a big infusion of coins wich made my ( an a lot of my friends ) pvp-ing imposible .... despite that i always join for pvp even i am worthless , but most of ppl don't like 10 second pvp so they left pvp , they are logging rare , or they just left for good
2. this server never was a pvp server ... if u want lots of pvp it's simple ... make buffer npc in town and problem of supports is solved
my opinion .... make global damage 1/2 or better 1/4 for long long pvp and u will see a difference
for the 3rd time .....IT'S JUST MY OPINION
Quote from: cerebelo on February 22, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
i can tell u my opinion as a 4 years old player , low equiped , wich likes to pvp :
1. i spent a lot time farming for my dynasti items , ench skills , etc but 4 years of hard work is reduced to 1 shot dead for me from uber equiped players ... don't get me wrong cause there always were super strong guys , but after the nm merge there was a big infusion of coins wich made my ( an a lot of my friends ) pvp-ing imposible .... despite that i always join for pvp even i am worthless , but most of ppl don't like 10 second pvp so they left pvp , they are logging rare , or they just left for good
2. this server never was a pvp server ... if u want lots of pvp it's simple ... make buffer npc in town and problem of supports is solved
my opinion .... make global damage 1/2 or better 1/4 for long long pvp and u will see a difference
for the 3rd time .....IT'S JUST MY OPINION
no u wrong about 10 sec pvp. as low equiped too i can tell all depends of team. in my team where im just 1 in dnet robe we can 5-10 min. against cb. there are ppl have top gear and most of them +30/15 skills. dunno how long and where u farm, when i back to infy after valky i had there nothing. i didnt donate and after half year i was in dnet and just missed necklace from rb set.
p.s. the problem on server is not donation, bugs, oe chars/weapons and so on. it's not problem that ppl should farm hard to get some coins for top equipment, but big problem is "0" promotion , sorry track (with all respect) i must say it, yes it's your fault that server are like now. u must make PR for server. yes it's take time, money, health and nerves, but as GM u must do this. my logic say me that more ppl= more donation=more fun.
p.s.s. i think u should start play on server, i know it will be hard for u coz u have gm panel, i wont say that server gonna corrupted, like on raven, but u will see all problem which normal player have. i even can give u char for start ;)
Quote from: 6bIK on February 22, 2012, 07:08:43 AM
p.s. the problem on server is not donation, bugs, oe chars/weapons and so on. it's not problem that ppl should farm hard to get some coins for top equipment,but big problem is "0" promotion , sorry track (with all respect) i must say it, yes it's your fault that server are like now. u must make PR for server. yes it's take time, money, health and nerves, but as GM u must do this. my logic say me that more ppl= more donation=more fun.
It is a problem with you statement you say no donate but at the end is like kissing track ass, you say more donate more donate
You made my day, gm is asking why is people bitch1ng and why no pvp and you flame more people more donate more coins, and no donate?
The answer was given in this forum, is the gap between vesper vs dnet vs dynasty, after 3-4 years over 50% of server die in 1 or 2 shots tops.
Now you go pvp and see if you like it track to die that fast after 3-4 fak1ng years of farming.
how the fack should i go pvp with ic+f+7, i spend over 100 coins to get it and now i see "lucky" people who made vesper+f+13.
No track no more donate no more coins this is what you have on server and to quoate the NPC "THE END IS NEAR"
PS: to the naab with farming a lot to get top gear, you retarded naab we did farm we did get top gear but some smart ass gm give all players with real $ weapons OE i mean fack me vesper +13 and the enchant rate and the ews drop is like..... nevermind.
lol what a topic seriously.
If ppl have team to pvp - they go pvp
If they are lack some supports - they do not go
What more to think and spam ?
You wroted here so many shits, suppports, stuff, unbalanced, dead classes, farm, coins etc....
LOL ppl think at least for a while.
ps. Track do not listen cryiers. This is way to nowhere.
i vote for mega server promotion + dragon/infi merge + lower rates to max x5 :)
like now it looks like:
no fun > less active players > less ppl and more offline shops > new players wont come > old players run from serv to innova > even less ppl > same things for ppl who stayed here > GM makes event for old players with good equip or cash (does not matter if equip lowered to S grade +3 or not...skills are still +30 which needs some cash and xp/sp to make :| ) > no fun > back to beggining.
solution is simple. with no new blood on server or economics will fail. now i cant sell A sets bcs noone uses it...so this means noone is >75?? no. u just dont need A grade. makich char to 66 lvl takes few hours. hitting char to 80 lvl is max 1,5 hour on Garden of Eva... insane exp there, lots of SP, drops taken live from hellbound (tomes, darion badges, S mats, ews). btw check fahrite mob... def is maxed, atk is still at 40 lvll :|
Dont blame ppl on server that they wont pvp. i saw yesterday action. CB organised in few minutes...there was no opposite side... Who u wanna pvp?? besides CB does not give best picture about serv condition, talking to all about they have gm panels, beeing sponsored by gm etc.... i dont care. i made new char, trying to have some fun. but think who will want to join our community if there are such news around. once again. L2 gracia final is not attracvie any more on the official innova background, specially with all this GM sponsor Aura, lame events (pigs? please, fighting for one hour to get one hour buffs - which i can take from npc for free??). Please Track start thinking how to change serv to invite new faces, instead of flaming old players that they are bored to exp/pvp...for last 7 years....
Quote from: lasombra on February 22, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
lol what a topic seriously.
If ppl have team to pvp - they go pvp
If they are lack some supports - they do not go
What more to think and spam ?
You wroted here so many shits, suppports, stuff, unbalanced, dead classes, farm, coins etc....
LOL ppl think at least for a while.
ps. Track do not listen cryiers. This is way to nowhere.
So....AoD votes for NPC AiO baffs. maybe make pvp event with no buffs at all. AoD should come, and problem solved...
Quote from: VampyRUL on February 22, 2012, 09:12:40 AM
It is a problem with you statement you say no donate but at the end is like kissing track ass, you say more donate more donate
You made my day, gm is asking why is people bitch1ng and why no pvp and you flame more people more donate more coins, and no donate?
The answer was given in this forum, is the gap between vesper vs dnet vs dynasty, after 3-4 years over 50% of server die in 1 or 2 shots tops.
Now you go pvp and see if you like it track to die that fast after 3-4 fak1ng years of farming.
how the fack should i go pvp with ic+f+7, i spend over 100 coins to get it and now i see "lucky" people who made vesper+f+13.
No track no more donate no more coins this is what you have on server and to quoate the NPC "THE END IS NEAR"
PS: to the naab with farming a lot to get top gear, you retarded naab we did farm we did get top gear but some smart ass gm give all players with real $ weapons OE i mean fack me vesper +13 and the enchant rate and the ews drop is like..... nevermind.
i read your post 2 time, and i ask me is u can read?
p.s. and where u read that im kissing track ass? xD
Quote from: 6bIK on February 22, 2012, 07:08:43 AM
p.s. the problem on server is not donation, bugs, oe chars/weapons and so on. it's not problem that ppl should farm hard to get some coins for top equipment, but big problem is "0" promotion , sorry track (with all respect) i must say it, yes it's your fault that server are like now. u must make PR for server. yes it's take time, money, health and nerves, but as GM u must do this. my logic say me that more ppl= more donation=more fun.
read so, maybe u get it xD
p.s.s ic+f+7 with full attribute is nice bow. maybe u have 2 left hands and dont know your char?
p.s.s u just dont have ballz to enchant your bow, that's all
Quote from: lasombra on February 22, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
lol what a topic seriously.
If ppl have team to pvp - they go pvp
If they are lack some supports - they do not go
What more to think and spam ?
You wroted here so many shits, suppports, stuff, unbalanced, dead classes, farm, coins etc....
LOL ppl think at least for a while.
ps. Track do not listen cryiers. This is way to nowhere.
Feli u have right, but this pvp problem in pack with rest.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
bla bla bla
show me plox where AOD votes for NPC AIO buffs, rly intrested in this part.
and merge with dragon imo bullsh1t till glasy, kesy and rest of sh1t gm's there.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
i vote for mega server promotion + dragon/infi merge + lower rates to max x5 :)
like now it looks like:
no fun > less active players > less ppl and more offline shops > new players wont come > old players run from serv to innova > even less ppl > same things for ppl who stayed here > GM makes event for old players with good equip or cash (does not matter if equip lowered to S grade +3 or not...skills are still +30 which needs some cash and xp/sp to make :| ) > no fun > back to beggining.
solution is simple. with no new blood on server or economics will fail. now i cant sell A sets bcs noone uses it...so this means noone is >75?? no. u just dont need A grade. makich char to 66 lvl takes few hours. hitting char to 80 lvl is max 1,5 hour on Garden of Eva... insane exp there, lots of SP, drops taken live from hellbound (tomes, darion badges, S mats, ews). btw check fahrite mob... def is maxed, atk is still at 40 lvll :|
Dont blame ppl on server that they wont pvp. i saw yesterday action. CB organised in few minutes...there was no opposite side... Who u wanna pvp?? besides CB does not give best picture about serv condition, talking to all about they have gm panels, beeing sponsored by gm etc.... i dont care. i made new char, trying to have some fun. but think who will want to join our community if there are such news around. once again. L2 gracia final is not attracvie any more on the official innova background, specially with all this GM sponsor Aura, lame events (pigs? please, fighting for one hour to get one hour buffs - which i can take from npc for free??). Please Track start thinking how to change serv to invite new faces, instead of flaming old players that they are bored to exp/pvp...for last 7 years....
So....AoD votes for NPC AiO baffs. maybe make pvp event with no buffs at all. AoD should come, and problem solved...
1. if u vote, make vote topic and ask other if they wanna merge, i think many of us will vote no
2. to have new player on server aka new blood need promotion, they should somehow know about us .
As already many ppl said we are in a chronicle and in a server situation that if you don't have ALL buffs...some Bishop...some tank for SOF... some OL... it's useless to PvP... and it sux hard but that's it...
In my own experience, with my SH/SE, I used to be a glass cannon that was dealing nice damage but I was 2 hits for all... now I still 2 hit for all but I need half of my mana for kill some1 even with good equip... ofc I do my part in clan for TW and sieges when I can... but the will to pvp that I had before really decreased in the last new chronicles... and I say that as a old pvp whore b1tch that would follow 1 even for half elmore-aden map for kill some1 =D...
Should I reroll and not QQ? yes you have right.. but maybe I am a crazy disturbed and I don't wanna abandon my char that I've never changed since C2...
I tell this also for my personal porpouse (I admit) but maybe if clans could obtain the chance of modify their main subclasses for fit better in pvp, this could help for give a refresh to the gameplay and reorganize better the classes of supports needed for pvp...
Igideon said that this option is not easy to implement due the enchanted skilsl and ppl would lose their enchantment... well... ppl would deal with it imo =)...
Just my 2 cents...
all
this shiet happend when u capped everything so live with it .u destroyed a lot of suport classes and make this server a tanks server .
u took this server fun with ur bullshiet actions and ur so called nerfs.all this is your fault ....maybe now that gm from dragon is happy he can pwn all.answer me this one question why should some1 play for example sr/sws? same speed as all same atk speed lower p atk then rest or any other suport class for fighters. answer ? no1 coz this classes dont give any advantage
Quote from: kalu on February 22, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
all
this shiet happend when u capped everything so live with it .u destroyed a lot of suport classes and make this server a tanks server .
u took this server fun with ur bullshiet actions and ur so called nerfs.all this is your fault ....maybe now that gm from dragon is happy he can pwn all.answer me this one question why should some1 play for example sr/sws? same speed as all same atk speed lower p atk then rest or any other suport class for fighters. answer ? no1 coz this classes dont give any advantage
SO maybe use fackin brain and use ur class special things
like dye +5str/-5dex on sr/sws ? if u have amx speed/atkspeed anyway so decrease it to get more hp/cp or patk
Also if u take good certificates up to ur char setup will help much.
Start thinking, stop crying
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 22, 2012, 10:00:48 AM
show me plox where AOD votes for NPC AIO buffs, rly intrested in this part.
and merge with dragon imo bullsh1t till glasy, kesy and rest of sh1t gm's there.
here...
Quote from: lasombra on February 22, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
lol what a topic seriously.
If ppl have team to pvp - they go pvp
If they are lack some supports - they do not go
i read it like that. we have buff = we go pvp. no buff - no pvp. like yesterday... i saw one clan buffed with no supports trying to pvp... AoD is like bosss.. i wont move my ass cause i die lol!.. i wont move out of town w/o healer. i wont pvp w/o chp. i wont i wont i wont... reading all CB hero messages inviting opposite side to pvp at HB/wateland/varka/wherever is a proof that FTP is an ally of fighters with no supports = make AiO buffers, FTP will join fight maybe.
PS: too lazy to log support boxes?
PSS: i remamber a guy, necro/PP running all over Infi server in karmian + homunkulus and pking all players from lvls 20 to 78.... and he was supported by ee/sps.... everyone cried than to ban him. but that was most exciting moment for mass pvp...
psss: Jack +1
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
i read it like that. we have buff = we go pvp. no buff - no pvp. like yesterday... i saw one clan buffed with no supports trying to pvp... AoD is like bosss.. i wont move my ass cause i die lol!.. i wont move out of town w/o healer. i wont pvp w/o chp. i wont i wont i wont... reading all CB hero messages inviting opposite side to pvp at HB/wateland/varka/wherever is a proof that FTP is an ally of fighters with no supports = make AiO buffers, FTP will join fight maybe.
PS: too lazy to log support boxes?
first of all, dunno who are you, but tell me 1 thing, what is the point to go with 3 ppl against 2 pt' s? except running till giran or bsoe durring, imo it's sensless, i guess my box for pvp was logged more time then you and for sure got more pvp points xD If i can spot about 5-6 enemy i can take Tyia and go there but if they are mroe, i need good team for pvp.
i still dont get about what You talk about.
pvp is EVERYDAY... (evenings/night)
online on server is better than some time ago
no way for change subs jack, its nonsense...wanna play smth different, make new char, wanna old nick...change nick.
This topic become place for cry about all...
- i have no equip...buuu
- my char sux...buuuuuu
- tanks online....buuuuu
- no supports.....buuuuuu
All those things You can change ALONE, need only a bit will for it. All is depends on You. You only make Track head ache with Your personal menthal problems.
I play here since zenith server was open Felissin is my 3rd char, and i play it already 6,5 years, why i do not cry about my char? Its not uber pwnzor char, just shity sh/bd. Accept weakness of Your char and problem solved. Thats the key. And mby learn to play...?
also since i play here i see crying, nerfs, next crying etc. I heard since 5+ years "server dying mengzzz" and ? here we are...server 7 yers old. Mby give smth from Your self at least, and STOP CRY ABOUT EVERYRHING.
With what i can agree, gm stuff should try nake bigfer promotion of server. Couse irs good server and can offer lot of fun.
Also mby some day we will make 3-4 sides war so fun will be bigger xd
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Quote from: Zaled on February 22, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
first of all, dunno who are you, but tell me 1 thing, what is the point to go with 3 ppl against 2 pt' s? except running till giran or bsoe durring, imo it's sensless, i guess my box for pvp was logged more time then you and for sure got more pvp points xD If i can spot about 5-6 enemy i can take Tyia and go there but if they are mroe, i need good team for pvp.
If that is the picture of PVP by Your clan/ally...btw... Your clan is about 3 ppl active? change it :) or find tactics/better ally
Quote from: SauroN on February 22, 2012, 01:20:02 AM
A merge with DN could push those ppl out of town 8)
And it would bring Glasy and the crew here. Do you really want that?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 10:49:32 AM
here...
i read it like that. we have buff = we go pvp. no buff - no pvp. like yesterday... i saw one clan buffed with no supports trying to pvp... AoD is like bosss.. i wont move my ass cause i die lol!.. i wont move out of town w/o healer. i wont pvp w/o chp. i wont i wont i wont... reading all CB hero messages inviting opposite side to pvp at HB/wateland/varka/wherever is a proof that FTP is an ally of fighters with no supports = make AiO buffers, FTP will join fight maybe.
PS: too lazy to log support boxes?
PSS: i remamber a guy, necro/PP running all over Infi server in karmian + homunkulus and pking all players from lvls 20 to 78.... and he was supported by ee/sps.... everyone cried than to ban him. but that was most exciting moment for mass pvp...
psss: Jack +1
....... hard talk to the wall but ill try.
sure i wont move for pvp w/o bp in pt and normal buff, cuz i wanna fun, not port>died in 10 second>tp village. mb for u this is fun but for me no and for many ppl also.
aio buffers wont help cuz in normal pvp u can lose buffs and u need active support who can rebuff u during pvp, u need bp for cleanse, ol/wc for cp and debuffs, ee/se for recharge.
i guess u some1 like yoshimo who log 10 boxes, turn on autoclicker(or even better some autocp program based on items id) and go pvp. unfortunatelly not all like u.
- Onu3DeHeJIa - Sps/EE - retired
- DramaQueen - SwS/EE ?
What for u need bp? Youre support needed in clan. Not active? So, wassup?
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
If that is the picture of PVP by Your clan/ally...btw... Your clan is about 3 ppl active? change it :) or find tactics/better ally
Rly i prefer to play with ppl who know how to play their chars, I don't need to change clan, but if you don't see the sense of my sentence i understand why you are a random guy
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:09:21 AM
- Onu3DeHeJIa - Sps/EE - retired
- DramaQueen - SwS/EE ?
What for u need bp? Youre support needed in clan. Not active? So, wassup?
and you can't see the difeerence between ee and bp.... xDDDDDD
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:09:21 AM
- Onu3DeHeJIa - Sps/EE - retired
- DramaQueen - SwS/EE ?
What for u need bp? Youre support needed in clan. Not active? So, wassup?
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Quote from: Zaled on February 22, 2012, 11:10:40 AM
Rly i prefer to play with ppl who know how to play their chars, I don't need to change clan, but if you don't see the sense of my sentence i understand why you are a random guy
i am random guy, cause i dont want to be "not random" i started l2 on infi in may 2007. i have family/work/other things than camping bosses and cry for lack of supports...just want to be a small part of community. and i understand u want to be in your clan, u want more players active, u want various classes, u want organised ppl and no kids allowed... i needed the same. didnt found.
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and you can't see the difeerence between ee and bp.... xDDDDDD
I play BP for 5 years now if u would like to know. and subbed with wk. its just u cry for lack of supports, than i itell u u have some supports. but than u cry for exact support like BP... i think u just need excuse for not playing
PvT: noticed ";)" ??
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:09:21 AM
- Onu3DeHeJIa - Sps/EE - retired
- DramaQueen - SwS/EE ?
What for u need bp? Youre support needed in clan. Not active? So, wassup?
if u dont see difference between ee and bp go read smth about their skills. also try get some info about full buff and supports in pvp cuz for now loooks like u r yoshimo's pt member.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
I play BP for 5 years now if u would like to know. and subbed with wk. its just u cry for lack of supports, than i itell u u have some supports. but than u cry for exact support like BP... i think u just need excuse for not playing
dude some supports is not full buff and needed for pvp classes. but seems ur knowledge about pvp close to 0 so go make few more theories.
I don't see the point of all this argue and excuses rush.
Ppl are free to do whatever they want ingame. Who wanna pvp, go on; if you miss opponents, split that "pvp eager" party/clan/ally in half/3/4 parts and pvp all day/night long.
and see how it looks..
Track asked what u want to do in server. first few posts gave answers...rest told that U need no changes, u just want to stay at point. Good luck.
AoD u want me to donate my account to Your Clan? BP/WK is what u need. subbed for WC/OL <- guess u need it also. TH/WL <- if u wanna cry for more supports... just tell me and find player for that account.
and i feel no need to google for EE or BP skills... but maybe u need to google for "101 methods to find myself in cross-sub server". all make killers like destro/tyr or th/wl or glad/pal and cry for lack of supports...
Track, time to make supporting NPC for few clans here...
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
I play BP for 5 years now if u would like to know. and subbed with wk. its just u cry for lack of supports, than i itell u u have some supports. but than u cry for exact support like BP... i think u just need excuse for not playing
if i would be clanless and not even going to pvp i could play even 6 years with spoil/craft xd
Quote from: Zaled on February 22, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
if i would be clanless and not even going to pvp i could play even 6 years with spoil/craft xd
xD
To Your information i had clans. i was in tbl, AoD :) <-- yes, i saw cool things there, and few others.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:39:05 AM
To Your information i had clans. i was in tbl, AoD :) <-- yes, i saw cool things there, and few others.
mb u was in some clans but u know sh1t about pvp and pt setup.
Just put GoD here, 1(max 2) supports per party needed xD
About dyna vs vesper: of ppl with dyna +0 attribute die like elpies, but if they put full attribute, they will be not much weaker than vesper collegues.
Supports in clan problem could be solved, if clan would invite people, not chars, if someone wants to join, must create needed char.
Farm on alts could be solved by making impossible solo farming in good areas. Want spoil SoP, spoil solo, want farm dyna++ must have really good pt. (strenthen mobs, add minions to RB, that on spawn deal 20k damage, etc, etc
Or make farm areas - free pvp (like, for ex, SoD instance), yes sux for new ppl... but will bring more pvp for rest, noone can hide from pvp on alts then...
Make towns a free pvp areas by random (like olympiad arena, during match time, and becoming normal at buff/aftermatch time) xD
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:39:05 AM
To Your information i had clans. i was in tbl, AoD :) <-- yes, i saw cool things there, and few others.
in c4 IL bp/wk was awesome. i was even playing on brix some time
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 22, 2012, 11:41:35 AM
mb u was in some clans but u know sh1t about pvp and pt setup.
Yes...AoD trained me well :))
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 11:54:44 AM
Yes...AoD trained me well :))
and ur nick in game? cuz for now i see here only some noname random
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 22, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
and ur nick in game? cuz for now i see here only some noname random
he wanna be aod in past and now became pr0 (at least he think it). he is random on forum and random in game aswell who is 1 shooted like an elpy ;)
i reccomend dont waste ur time for him :)
Quote from: ylim on February 22, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
he wanna be aod in past and now became pr0 (at least he think it). he is random on forum and random in game aswell who is 1 shooted like an elpy ;)
i reccomend dont waste ur time for him :)
thx for info :)
Quote from: ylim on February 22, 2012, 12:01:58 PM
he wanna be aod in past and now became pr0 (at least he think it). he is random on forum and random in game aswell who is 1 shooted like an elpy ;)
i reccomend dont waste ur time for him :)
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 22, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
and ur nick in game? cuz for now i see here only some noname random
i was just about to answer..but ye. i am noob. nonamed noob :) no need to know nicks. but i clearly remamber AoD walkering in HB, and AF. now u cry for walkers? i was in AoD for 3 weeks. enough.
:] just wrote my opinion. As You said Ylim. "If noone hates me, I'm doing something wrong..." do good luck is doing nothing :)
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 12:10:01 PM
You said Ylim. "If noone hates me, I'm doing something wrong..." do good luck is doing nothing :)
actualy it is/was awe`s signature, fail more pls 8)
Quote from: ylim on February 22, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
actualy it is/was awe`s signature, fail more pls 8)
U remamber all Forum Users signatures? Get some real life.
i suggest stopping offtop. let's fix server
Track the fact that few ppl join your pvp event doesn't mean that there's no pvp.
Yesterday scenario:
me and 2 ppl from WS was killing RB we killed one on Ketra and the got wiped by incoming WP party. We started bringing ppl and after 2 or 3 glorious "go back to town" we had 6 ppl team that, starting from now, was smashing all WP attempts to re take RBs. We had our fun with those guys and then track announced the event time. Well since we have buffed party then lets go.
At place we had random lags(RBs spawning) and CB with heavy heal. We had sws/ee as healer only. Problem was obvious and even if crew from CB is telling now that they were out of sws and pp i can say only one thing..bolocks.
Since we were without good healer we stayed close to the entrance trying to catch one of you off guard. If you want to tell me that full buffed sh, full atri skills +15 is capable to hit few CB chars for 700 WITHOUT PP/SWS buffs then there's something seriously wrong. Plus having you in front and WP at back there was no point of rushing forward on crew with massive heal.
Track there's pvp alright but some circumstances like yesterday one we're just pointless to pvp.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
U remamber all Forum Users signatures? Get some real life.
i suggest stopping offtop. let's fix server
for urs i never will remember, cos u r a brainless random asshole :-*
thx im fine with my life :)
ps how many times u pushed f5 and wait for my awnser ? :)
Quote from: lasombra on February 22, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
This topic become place for cry about all...
- i have no equip...buuu
All those things You can change ALONE, need only a bit will for it. All is depends on You. You only make Track head ache with Your personal menthal problems.
I play here since zenith server was open Felissin is my 3rd char, and i play it already 6,5 years, why i do not cry about my char? and STOP CRY ABOUT EVERYRHING.
so u want new ppl to join server and farm 6.5 years then join pvp ? or u think maybe new ppl will bring more pvp action without huge donations ? ofc u don't cry about equipment , ofc u as a clan leader with acces to grate items will never cry , top donators will never cry , non lifers with 24/7 farming will never cry , but.... this is all what is left for this server .... only the above type of players still pvp now regulary ..... what i read from tz is that this is really the problem , big online - low pvp
ofc if 1000 ppl online they will never pvp with some extra equiped players , they could be 20k online , same story ... equipement > numbers .... see last siege
ppl same like me in this server are a lot , and are very active but they don't wanna join your fun ..... u can see lot of topics " i am pro i kille full pt " or " we fok u noobs , and u were 3 times more then us "
2 times. u like insulting ppl?
During a while u had to write those warm words to me i was updating my WTS thread on forum. U can call me noob, lame or whatever, but a person who insults ppl just because they are unknown and have other point of view, is just pathetic. specially when it is all about a computer game. grow up kid.
Quote from: cerebelo on February 22, 2012, 12:31:49 PM
so u want new ppl to join server and farm 6.5 years then join pvp ? or u think maybe new ppl will bring more pvp action without huge donations ? ofc u don't cry about equipment , ofc u as a clan leader with acces to grate items will never cry , top donators will never cry , non lifers with 24/7 farming will never cry , but.... this is all what is left for this server .... only the above type of players still pvp now regulary ..... what i read from tz is that this is really the problem , big online - low pvp
ofc if 1000 ppl online they will never pvp with some extra equiped players , they could be 20k online , same story ... equipement > numbers .... see last siege
ppl same like me in this server are a lot , and are very active but they don't wanna join your fun ..... u can see lot of topics " i am pro i kille full pt " or " we fok u noobs , and u were 3 times more then us "
so new ppl should get items for free for be on same lvl with old players who waste not 1 year for those items? or i didnt got ur idea.....
about last siege: 4-5 good organised pt>not organised zerg and there nothing about equip. when ppl start read orders and even more important, understand and follow them result will be totally different.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
U remamber all Forum Users signatures? Get some real life.
i suggest stopping offtop. let's fix server
and what our pr0 bp/wk will fix?
Quote from: 6bIK on February 22, 2012, 12:49:56 PM
and what our pr0 bp/wk will fix?
prolly he gonna spam again about AIO buffer cuz need buff somehow his farm bots.
Quote from: cerebelo on February 22, 2012, 12:31:49 PM
ofc if 1000 ppl online they will never pvp with some extra equiped players , they could be 20k online , same story ... equipement > numbers .... see last siege
this is total nonsence you write here
go to any big off server, and ask why big clans do not explicitely attack randoms/neutrals
you'll get simple answer, even tops can't handle whole community against them.
infinity history, 4 sided war. who won? high equiped/average numberd side. (vs top equiped, vs high numbers vs another top equiped low numbers).
Valki history: " karmian ally of randoms" vs dyna ally.... karmians were winning cause cooperated
Thus top equipment is not main, main is cooperation.
Quote from: cerebelo on February 22, 2012, 06:58:41 AM
i can tell u my opinion as a 4 years old player , low equiped , wich likes to pvp :
1. i spent a lot time farming for my dynasti items , ench skills , etc but 4 years of hard work is reduced to 1 shot dead for me from uber equiped players ... don't get me wrong cause there always were super strong guys , but after the nm merge there was a big infusion of coins wich made my ( an a lot of my friends ) pvp-ing imposible .... despite that i always join for pvp even i am worthless , but most of ppl don't like 10 second pvp so they left pvp , they are logging rare , or they just left for good
2. this server never was a pvp server ... if u want lots of pvp it's simple ... make buffer npc in town and problem of supports is solved
my opinion .... make global damage 1/2 or better 1/4 for long long pvp and u will see a difference
for the 3rd time .....IT'S JUST MY OPINION
Sry mate but if u play here 4 years and u still dont have top items, you are just noob w/o knowledge of lineage 2. I play here around 4 years also and i have top items w/o farming 24/7. Good example of player who show that farm and little knowledge of l2 and u can get all is Nomad. He play here around 1 year and got all.How? He dont cry on forums and dont sit on giran stairs waiting for coins from heaven. He go and farm.
SAD TRACK U START THIS TOPIC WITH GOOD WISHES, BUT HE GONNA DIE LIKE ALL OTHERS.
i think if u realy wanna know from US what should be good on server, start new topic. there ppl should write thier ideas about server and nothing else, no discussion and delete double posts from each player.
Quote from: 6bIK on February 22, 2012, 12:49:56 PM
and what our pr0 bp/wk will fix?
I wrote my opinion.
I agree with Onu. New players wont take part in pvps with high levels. but if they will come to server playing will be more attrractive. And maybe after some time there will be no need to use boxes
Quote from: Shadow21 on February 22, 2012, 12:56:21 PM
prolly he gonna spam again about AIO buffer cuz need buff somehow his farm bots.
and again... sorry for You kids. going off.
w/o discussion that topic will be like our bug report topic, where every1 posting his wishes, 80% of ppl show lack of game knowledge and cry w/o reason.
~Keep on posting , i am reading and following creative ideas and good intentioned people here, in a bit ill state my thoughts , im rereading all over again.
thanks
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
I wrote my opinion.
I agree with Onu. New players wont take part in pvps with high levels. but if they will come to server playing will be more attrractive. And maybe after some time there will be no need to use boxes
and again... sorry for You kids. going off.
smart dude and how they should know about us, from Twitter or FB, is it joke?
Quote from: TrackZero on February 22, 2012, 01:06:49 PM
~Keep on posting , i am reading and following creative ideas and good intentioned people here, in a bit ill state my thoughts , im rereading all over again.
thanks
track plz write them somewhere here ;)
p.s. track check pm plz...
Quote from: Cookie Monster on February 22, 2012, 12:34:06 PM
2 times. u like insulting ppl?
During a while u had to write those warm words to me i was updating my WTS thread on forum. U can call me noob, lame or whatever, but a person who insults ppl just because they are unknown and have other point of view, is just pathetic. specially when it is all about a computer game. grow up kid.
i didnt insult u, i not even tried just said facts :-*
cya tomorrow
Quote from: ylim on February 22, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
i didnt insult u, i not even tried just said facts :-*
cya tomorrow
Comming back Ylim?xD
Quote from: ylim on February 22, 2012, 01:19:34 PM
i didnt insult u, i not even tried just said facts :-*
cya tomorrow
im just curious how old are u
Quote from: cthon on February 22, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
im just curious how old are u
any offer? ;p
p.s. stop useless spam ;)
Disable attributes in weapons and armors, just for one week. Only attributes from enchanted skills, buffs, armor bonuses and potions should work.
We will see what will happen.
Go PVP without supports it's rly useless, we all know that gonna happen, ur enemies gonna rape u and ur pt.
The same way go pvp with bots is also a problem, cause some buffs gonna end or dissapear in the middle of pvp, so if pvp takes some time u gonna loose buffs and gonna die rly easily when this happen.
Most of people who complains about lack of support don't wanna make one, it's easier to complain than make one and solve the problem of the rest of ur party, everyone wanna play char that can kill all, but they forget that without buffs even UBER KILLER gonna SUCK! On CB we also have problems sometimes with supports, sometimes we miss active BD or OL/WC to some pt, but this we need to solve as clan, we can't w8 that a solution will come from the sky and solve all problems (like make AIO, this rly sucks).
Here we can XP rly fast (20x + Vitality System + Eddited mobs is rly great), so XP isn't a problem, also make nobless isn't a problem. Now u don't even need to hit Baium, just take another option on quest and go kill some mobs. Also people don't need to trade equips, talk with players and who plays HE/GL for example make a BD/PR, SR/SWS or HE/WK. Who plays as SPS/TK make SPS/SWS.
Also even if the parties r full buffed with all active players FTP and allied clans still gonna have problem with Debuffs, u will take debuffs from allymates, but this can be solved, just need some pratice and organization, the main problem is to pratice pvp u must go pvp, u just gonna learn what to do and how to do, when u rly on PVP situation. This can take some time cause but it's the better way to learn how to pvp.
Most of problems r related to lack of supports and organization, this can be solved if PLAYERS (not just CL's) decide that is time to change this, that ur pt that u usually play need some support chars, that this supports can't be bots, or all gonna die, some players will have to reroll for the good of the rest of the clan, and also the clan must recognize that, since this player is rly helping the clan he should recieve more help from the clan, help for XP, to enchant skills, to get more chances to get a Vesper Set for example.
And ofc the organization, the CL can be the best on tatics and PVP, but if others dont follow his orders all gonna die, when he say RUSH all need to rush, no matter if his command will send all to death, cause there's more chance to survive if all goes and not just 50% of who's on CC, sometimes u gonna fail and sometimes u gonna win, none can win all the time.
Imo atm the bigger enemy of FTP it's FTP, till some players realize they need reroll and follow orders they still gonna die and still gonna complain.
great words dude. hope some ppl gonna read and follow them.
last PvP event we don't have in whole ally even 1 bp or they been afk dunno ::) then what's the point to go PvP without it :-\ 1v1 2v2 kk but with full pt+ its pointless... some of us want kite with them for fun but a lot ppl quit bcz they dont go without BP, CB's make same if they dont have BP they not even move from town vs Full PT if they dont have supports + BP.
sometimes we dont have PvP PT sometimes they don't have... happens ::)
huh weezer.
its another time when I fully agree with You.
About making supports (i help always like i can if smbd reroll to support). And about commanding, when ppl do not listen what I write its drive me crazy
Track can't solve problems, ppl must do it. They need just a bit will for it.
About cryiers with wish concert...forget about them.
Quote from: Weezer on February 22, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Go PVP without supports it's rly useless, we all know that gonna happen, ur enemies gonna rape u and ur pt.
The same way go pvp with bots is also a problem, cause some buffs gonna end or dissapear in the middle of pvp, so if pvp takes some time u gonna loose buffs and gonna die rly easily when this happen.
Most of people who complains about lack of support don't wanna make one, it's easier to complain than make one and solve the problem of the rest of ur party, everyone wanna play char that can kill all, but they forget that without buffs even UBER KILLER gonna SUCK! On CB we also have problems sometimes with supports, sometimes we miss active BD or OL/WC to some pt, but this we need to solve as clan, we can't w8 that a solution will come from the sky and solve all problems (like make AIO, this rly sucks).
Here we can XP rly fast (20x + Vitality System + Eddited mobs is rly great), so XP isn't a problem, also make nobless isn't a problem. Now u don't even need to hit Baium, just take another option on quest and go kill some mobs. Also people don't need to trade equips, talk with players and who plays HE/GL for example make a BD/PR, SR/SWS or HE/WK. Who plays as SPS/TK make SPS/SWS.
Also even if the parties r full buffed with all active players FTP and allied clans still gonna have problem with Debuffs, u will take debuffs from allymates, but this can be solved, just need some pratice and organization, the main problem is to pratice pvp u must go pvp, u just gonna learn what to do and how to do, when u rly on PVP situation. This can take some time cause but it's the better way to learn how to pvp.
Most of problems r related to lack of supports and organization, this can be solved if PLAYERS (not just CL's) decide that is time to change this, that ur pt that u usually play need some support chars, that this supports can't be bots, or all gonna die, some players will have to reroll for the good of the rest of the clan, and also the clan must recognize that, since this player is rly helping the clan he should recieve more help from the clan, help for XP, to enchant skills, to get more chances to get a Vesper Set for example.
And ofc the organization, the CL can be the best on tatics and PVP, but if others dont follow his orders all gonna die, when he say RUSH all need to rush, no matter if his command will send all to death, cause there's more chance to survive if all goes and not just 50% of who's on CC, sometimes u gonna fail and sometimes u gonna win, none can win all the time.
Imo atm the bigger enemy of FTP it's FTP, till some players realize they need reroll and follow orders they still gonna die and still gonna complain.
+1
Quote from: Weezer on February 22, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Imo atm the bigger enemy of FTP it's FTP, till some players realize they need reroll and follow orders they still gonna die and still gonna complain.
the truth is ftp blows, they always did, they were zerging since their begining, now they just dont have 3x , 4x more to win..
Quote from: cthon on February 22, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
the truth is ftp blows, they always did, they were zerging since their begining, now they just dont have 3x , 4x more to win..
the truth is blows ppl like u, who think to much about them selves.
p.s. in another topic u told impossible use normal arguments and talk with me. but seems when u made that post u looked in the mirror. true impossible have any normal conversation with ppl which ego have no limits.
now go make more posts how u pro and how we suck. but if once ftp leave this server will be rly intresting to see what such pro gonna do except camp stairs.
suggestion for track. make some new server specially for cb and sg from x15. so there they can be happy w/o so noobish enemy.
well my 50 cents...
iff its so wrong that is 0 pvp smtimes and cb r uber bored . since u ve always 2-3 pt rdy for pvp fight each other and ur boredom ll be over lol ...
and its kinda obvious track u wont get mass pvp at 19 gmt +1 since most of ppls r relaxing after job and loging at 21-22 gmt+1
anyway golky events r bored . hide and seek ftw !
Ideas:
-Make useless classes stronger or atleast attractive to play.
-Make an special PVP zone at (Forgotten Gateway as example) with exclusive mobs that drop kewl things (not able killing it with 1-5 char). With some RB's spawning there once a while.
-AIO buffer in town with 99 hours buffs. Although it sounds like some x999 server thingy, to me it would be more attractive to search for pvp since I dont need to log many buffers or ask for help to go pvp (cause full buffs are needed to pvp now).
-Fix or change skills that really are needed to be corrected than changing things which really make me wonder whats wrong with you... (as example smart cubic ... )
-A pretty long time ago on a gracia sever, they had a simple feature called something like automatic TVT event. You could sign up at a NPC in town, you had blue vs red, party's were made randomly. You needed to make your party, not one buff able getting inside the TVT area besides the buff team mates have. The team that won could get some reward that you need plenty off to get something usefull which could make the server easier to play for new players.
-The balance between DNET / RB armors and Vesper is still too big (those RB armors still aint working correctly...). Buying DNET vesper isnt cheap, and lets face it a new player would need to donate to even being able getting a vesper set...
And about rerolling to a 'buff' char, sure exping it from 1 to 85 could be done within 5 hours... Doing 3rd class aint that hard... Retail + nobl might be a bit harder, but still do-able.... But then the harder things come (that are really needed): Making skills +++ , Certification skills and the hardest part those Forgotten Scrolls... getting all of them takes pretty much coins. Just an quick guess but lets say you need 50 coins to get +++ skills and all those FS? or even more? Doesnt really sound attractive to me to reroll... (I'm playing support myself so shhh :P).
And something 'Carebears' related (to respond a bit too Jyg), yes I agree if there's some small pvp we come with 1 - 2 party's (3 is redicilous...). But can you blame them? everyone wants pvp... (although i must say a player should tell himself not to go when its obvious he might participate something zergy). But I clearly remember that it was the other way arround and no matter if you were more, CB still came to pvp. Lets say i've found pvp at wastelands, 2-3 FTP there. I got 2 options: 1. i log many buffers. 2. i ask clan for help. Now logging buffers takes more work than a simple text in clan chat. Result: People read about pvp, and everyone wants to come. = 'zerg'.
So AIO buffer might be an solution for this problem. Or do you have any other suggestions?
Quote from: ForgotPass on February 22, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
And something 'Carebears' related (to respond a bit too Jyg), yes I agree if there's some small pvp we come with 1 - 2 party's (3 is redicilous...). But can you blame them? everyone wants pvp... (although i must say a player should tell himself not to go when its obvious he might participate something zergy). But I clearly remember that it was the other way arround and no matter if you were more, CB still came to pvp. Lets say i've found pvp at wastelands, 2-3 FTP there. I got 2 options: 1. i log many buffers. 2. i ask clan for help.
no 1 is blaming no 1 :P but smtimes when is a pvp 2 ppls for example 2-3 days ago i was seazrching for pvp . i killed 1 cb and in result u came with full mage pt for me lolz which i find stupid .
anyway when we ve normal created pt ( read all chars needed ) we go to pvp but many of us ve job/familly ( some cb dont cuz i see em everytime i log xD ) and we cant simple go cuz is no point to fight 2 pts ( dont tell me to say 2-3 ppls cause u know iff is pvp all of ur ppls appear even for 1 person ) iff we ve few ppls searching for pvp . and for ur info many times some of ur clan m8s pmed me with " gosh why they fcking came with second pt and ruined all " so the pvp problem is not just that . and no ftp is not 100000 x more than u . u took many ppls to clan and we can see daily a lot of cb at giran stairs . ur online is same as ours in ftp cause ppls r loging mostly for tw/siege just.
Quote from: TrackZero on February 21, 2012, 08:48:17 PM
Okey , cant stand this anymore. Was keep on waiting that something will happen but for quite some things are keeps bothering me.
You can call me sided or not sided corrupted or not corrupted but as a GM of this network i wanna know what the fk is going on?!And why is it going on?!
1st of all im asking this because you players constantly complain about UNBALANCED pvp UNBALANCED chars UNBALANCED weapons in PvP while you never PvP , so it makes me wonder how did you test that by killing your bot? Cause every time to get some pvp from you guys i have to summon like half of servers RBs and <MAYBE> you will appear for PVP!
Whats wrong with you guys , i mean i know its nice to farm but seriously choosing to farm with alts while you can do some pvp at least 1x at day makes me wonder are you playing right game? I mean in the end what can happen so BAD , that you got defeated? Insulted ? Well we fixed that no more insults if you wanna say that! So whats wrong?
Im asking you all this because im giving myself 666% to make all things for you fix all the hell bugs you report , making new things etc... etc.. etc.. et freaking c, but you still complaining how server sux blababla while you camping towns or logging alts to farm :(
Or you gonna change this attitude or ill really give up of everything and ill let you enjoy what you do now.
And dont tell me you dont have enough people online , i checked clans and they are like 35+ online and i have checked like 4-5 clans who i know...
Jeeez >:( >:( >:( >:( :-X :-X :-X :-\ :-\ :-\
we do pvp with CB in 1v1, 2CBv1 or small groups, and they are lame as hell
dont ask us, why we have no fun to pvp with donat-gm-edited-chars in large group, ask yourself, why ....
i could see myself 2 CB chars and i was in heavy shock for what i saw there (new skills, enchanted on +30 skills that has no chance to be enchanted on those classes) ... n/c
that is why we need to put more work to enchant our chars (CB just paid euro)
and believe me or not, we are much more skilled in pvp then CB, couse it is 10 times harder to own edited chars witch +30 skills then play such a edited char
and pls, look at oly ... 90% fake farm hero from 3v3 = CB, like escarlet and pigmacul
Quote from: Hefestus on February 22, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
we do pvp with CB in 1v1, 2CBv1 or small groups, and they are lame as hell
dont ask us, why we have no fun to pvp with donat-gm-edited-chars in large group, ask yourself, why ....
i could see myself 2 CB chars and i was in heavy shock for what i saw there (new skills, enchanted on +30 skills that has no chance to be enchanted on those classes) ... n/c
that is why we need to put more work to enchant our chars (CB just paid euro)
and believe me or not, we are much more skilled in pvp then CB, couse it is 10 times harder to own edited chars witch +30 skills then play such a edited char
and pls, look at oly ... 90% fake farm hero from 3v3 = CB, like escarlet and pigmacul
BAN INCOMMING! ;D
And hell no AiO here! It would fok everything.
Quote from: Hefestus on February 22, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
we do pvp with CB in 1v1, 2CBv1 or small groups, and they are lame as hell
dont ask us, why we have no fun to pvp with donat-gm-edited-chars in large group, ask yourself, why ....
i could see myself 2 CB chars and i was in heavy shock for what i saw there (new skills, enchanted on +30 skills that has no chance to be enchanted on those classes) ... n/c
that is why we need to put more work to enchant our chars (CB just paid euro)
and believe me or not, we are much more skilled in pvp then CB, couse it is 10 times harder to own edited chars witch +30 skills then play such a edited char
and pls, look at oly ... 90% fake farm hero from 3v3 = CB, like escarlet and pigmacul
riiiiiight...
Quote from: Hefestus on February 22, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
we do pvp with CB in 1v1, 2CBv1 or small groups, and they are lame as hell
dont ask us, why we have no fun to pvp with donat-gm-edited-chars in large group, ask yourself, why ....
i could see myself 2 CB chars and i was in heavy shock for what i saw there (new skills, enchanted on +30 skills that has no chance to be enchanted on those classes) ... n/c
that is why we need to put more work to enchant our chars (CB just paid euro)
and believe me or not, we are much more skilled in pvp then CB, couse it is 10 times harder to own edited chars witch +30 skills then play such a edited char
and pls, look at oly ... 90% fake farm hero from 3v3 = CB, like escarlet and pigmacul
xDDDDD another hater
Quote from: Hefestus on February 22, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
we do pvp with CB in 1v1, 2CBv1 or small groups, and they are lame as hell
dont ask us, why we have no fun to pvp with donat-gm-edited-chars in large group, ask yourself, why ....
i could see myself 2 CB chars and i was in heavy shock for what i saw there (new skills, enchanted on +30 skills that has no chance to be enchanted on those classes) ... n/c
that is why we need to put more work to enchant our chars (CB just paid euro)
and believe me or not, we are much more skilled in pvp then CB, couse it is 10 times harder to own edited chars witch +30 skills then play such a edited char
and pls, look at oly ... 90% fake farm hero from 3v3 = CB, like escarlet and pigmacul
(http://suucks.dobd.hu/sr/f/1TXRAwrzrU9/don_t_cry)
NO WAY FOR AIO BUFFERS LOL PPL
If there will be such shit in town, it will be my last day here.
WTF You think? Are You brainless?
This game is made for play with ppl, ppl must make supports.
Go play single player or tetris if You do not want play with others ppl.
Stop cry, stop write ideas from ass. Start play the game. All problems can be solved easy by ppl. Track have NOTHING to this.
Abour cthon posts...n/c. Too bad i dont fraps actions. Sensless even discuss.
As i reading this spam i notice many ppl cry about support, and some other ppl have nice ideals
SO how about raising retail lvl to lvl 82.. Im sure many ppl have support on retails so at lvl 82 these ppl can have a decent support char.
I have 13 pages to re-read, So once i reply yo good ones ill unlock again!
Stay tuned