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Title: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Ok. After few ban from our clan, we alsto start freak up ppl fron enemy. Today, some fuker from Exidium Chery pm =Jaila= abou l2w (terapatrick & Triskalion), Triscalion get jail for "noob answer" - ok. In same time, some1 found l2w on Frozen Labirynt from clan Crows, and pm =Jaila= to check him, and nothing, zero answer, activity.

So i have question. From what clan its =Jaila= because its player on this Server,and i dont get it. GM should be obiective, but if he is wartag so how can he be obiective?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 09:54:35 AM
just +1 and about "enclave on observation list" its good for you  jaila, you can learn something usefull while u watch us ;)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 09:43:23 AM
Ok. After few ban from our clan, we alsto start freak up ppl fron enemy. Today, some fuker from Exidium Chery pm =Jaila= abou l2w (terapatrick & Triskalion), Triscalion get jail for "noob answer" - ok. In same time, some1 found l2w on Frozen Labirynt from clan Crows, and pm =Jaila= to check him, and nothing, zero answer, activity.

So i have question. From what clan its =Jaila= because its player on this Server,and i dont get it. GM should be obiective, but if he is wartag so how can he be obiective?

So, from 1 time when  Jaila didnt answer to him, you predict that he is corrupted? Rofl

At least he is trying to do something, but well, remove him from gm's :P
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
yeah :) sure.

1. i'm not always at my computer
2. cherry reported, i came to check

Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol. Exci or any other clan i suspect of botting are harassed as much as you guys are :).

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 11:13:14 AM
I dont whant to remove him. He make good job, but its kinda not Obiective if he play in some clan... and if i good remember also Exi pt was fraps on forum and nothing, 0 punishment.

Just fuking great i piss on this if u are from EXI , good choise ^Torn^... Fuking hypocrite Exi, just lawl, clan who also use mostly l2w and now sell whole server because have GM in clan? Hypocrite, forum fighters.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:17:14 AM
From now on you are not gm in our eyes dont even pm us we dont wanna to insult you, we will not play on corrupted server where our enemys have gm who can ban/jail any1, we seriously think to leave this shit
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: pigozord on June 12, 2010, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 10:58:16 AM
So, from 1 time when  Jaila didnt answer to him, you predict that he is corrupted? Rofl

At least he is trying to do something, but well, remove him from gm's :P


lets make it clear.

enclave bots same as excidium or crow or any other clan. not more not less. one difference is we are not hipocryts, who cry "jes GM plix ban dis gaj" and minute later we start l2w.

besides, dont show me screenshot with banned 66 lvl char, if you need you can ban my 40 lvl spoil. gl.

anyway, you WERE NOT afk (you talked with other ppl) while one of us pmed you, but anyway.

and last but not least, I dont say jaila is 'corrupted', I just say he is not right and apropriate person for this.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:18:31 AM
Quote from: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:17:14 AM
From now on you are not gm in our eyes dont even pm us we dont wanna to insult you, we will not play on corrupted server where our enemys have gm who can ban/jail any1, we seriously think to leave this shit

don't let the door hit you on the way out
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: pigozord on June 12, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
so GL, make one big carebear family and kill RB.

edit "you need 10 parties to kill baium" right?  ;D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:18:31 AM
don't let the door hit you on the way out
gl with that, evety post in this topic is screened and watch out or you will be posted on every  l2 forum. enclave want gm also and we will be seriously objective as jaila
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
Dude. Or GM or play in Exidium. WTF with this server, so we also whant GM. You aren obiective, and dont write touche posts, because u are jist hypocrite Exi Member who use mostly l2w, and didint get any ban. WoW, ban some newbie on 60 lvl its rly punish... what about fraps on forum?

Let ^tonr^ do something with this, i dont whant play on server where GMs are from Wartags.

Chose GM panel, or play in Exidium, and dont act good GM plz.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:27:51 AM
choose is not solution he can choose be gm and still he will be against us
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: BB on June 12, 2010, 11:30:32 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png)
nice screen ^^
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 11:31:53 AM
GM with a char in a clan? wth with that ?
As Navaro said, you are either GM or player, not both...

That's just completely retard... how do you except ppl to believe or trust you to be impartial and objective if you are playing in one clan...
Plus what can tell us for sure that you didn't ban some ppl just because you didn't like them ? nothing.

You can say as much as you want that you are impartial and objective, till you keep play on this server, it will just be worthless words.

One thing after another on this server... what will be the next big joke the GMs will get us?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: MrYoOcker on June 12, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
it is unacceptable that the admin played in a clan on the server, on the other  yes
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:40:36 AM
If I were you .. I wouldn't try to do what you're doing now. I'm not in my best mood in the morning.

To make things clear: 1

1. I am not member of exci clan, their ally or their friend clans
2. Torn knows all my ingame chars

The end, continue with this and you will find yourself some temp ban time until you cool off
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM


Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol. Exci or any other clan i suspect of botting are harassed as much as you guys are :).

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png)

Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:40:36 AM
If I were you .. I wouldn't try to do what you're doing now. I'm not in my best mood in the morning.

To make things clear: 1

1. I am not member of exci clan, their ally or their friend clans
2. Torn knows all my ingame chars

The end, continue with this and you will find yourself some temp ban time until you cool off

selfowned no point to write here anymore afk
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:46:05 AM
Quote from: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
selfowned no point to write here anymore afk

Are you stupid or just pretending ? That's a screenshot sent to me by Fun

Jun 10 2010 12:51PM   Fun   -   NEVER!   ^Torn^
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:40:36 AM
If I were you .. I wouldn't try to do what you're doing now. I'm not in my best mood in the morning.

To make things clear: 1

1. I am not member of exci clan, their ally or their friend clans
2. Torn knows all my ingame chars

The end, continue with this and you will find yourself some temp ban time until you cool off
Quite funny, i thought it was a forum on which we could give our opinions about what is wrong on the server ?

And sorry if you don't see it, but a GM playing on the server he's managing IS wrong.
Even if you are not in excidium clan, your opinion might be biased by what you do or did while playing, what ppl did to you etc...   and sorry to say, there is nothing you can do to change that because as everybodyelse , you are just another human being.

But yes, threaten ppl with ban etc.... for sure that will solve everything...
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 12, 2010, 11:47:38 AM
im talking about you said you are exci member and in other post you are not
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChujoZord on June 12, 2010, 11:47:50 AM
IM freakING LOLED!! :D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:49:18 AM
Ofcourse I'm biased!! LOL !! Do you know what i'm biased against ? Against L2W Users and L2W using clans ! YES!!
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Heray on June 12, 2010, 11:49:37 AM
Man you are Gm not normal player. Its not fair to help 1 clan and is ass have others like you making now ,you baning ppl whos using bots but no1 ffrom excidium like korina (she or he using and dont get ban) .So if you want to server going down make still the same.We want neutral GM.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:51:18 AM
Quote from: Heray on June 12, 2010, 11:49:37 AM
Man you are Gm not normal player. Its not fair to help 1 clan and is ass have others like you making now ,you baning ppl whos using bots but no1 ffrom excidium like korina (she or he using and dont get ban) .So if you want to server going down make still the same.We want neutral GM.

Are you stupid or just pretending ?

Jun 6 2010 4:34PM   K0R1Na   -   NEVER!   ^Descent^    l2w
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 11:51:34 AM
LOL no mather. You play on this server as a player, so u have friends, and enemy. You just show that u arent obiective, and your decysion are conditional from you mood.
Quote
If I were you .. I wouldn't try to do what you're doing now. I'm not in my best mood in the morning.
So if u are woman, and have period u will ban because u have bad day? Rly good obiective GM, GL. I whant neutral, obiective ppl on GM.

So you will perm ban all ppl who whant changes? Because u have GM panel, and dont whant heard  critique? GL.... good GM. Mr.I Know betterDontfreakWithMe?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChujoZord on June 12, 2010, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Heray on June 12, 2010, 11:49:37 AM
Man you are Gm not normal player. Its not fair to help 1 clan and is ass have others like you making now ,you baning ppl whos using bots but no1 ffrom excidium like korina (she or he using and dont get ban) .So if you want to server going down make still the same.We want neutral GM.
K0rina got ban you freaking idiot ...
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 11:54:00 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM

Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol.



Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:40:36 AM

1. I am not member of exci clan, their ally or their friend clans


Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Heray on June 12, 2010, 11:55:40 AM
Ye maybe im but i playing at more servers and GMs was neutral not like you , you making still same problems .
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Navaro on June 12, 2010, 11:55:56 AM
Yea And u (Exidium) Start to sell ppl who use l2w, while Jaila get GM. And i also mostly use l2w.... Hypocrite kids. And Dont Denay, Poor Cherry whant to fight by ban, not in l2. Poor kid.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: bourrin on June 12, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
l2w is useless lol
try play without it
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: pigozord on June 12, 2010, 11:18:13 AM

lets make it clear.

enclave bots same as excidium or crow or any other clan. not more not less. one difference is we are not hipocryts, who cry "jes GM plix ban dis gaj" and minute later we start l2w.

besides, dont show me screenshot with banned 66 lvl char, if you need you can ban my 40 lvl spoil. gl.

anyway, you WERE NOT afk (you talked with other ppl) while one of us pmed you, but anyway.

and last but not least, I dont say jaila is 'corrupted', I just say he is not right and apropriate person for this.

Me? You misunderstood probably. Or you ment exci members by saying you?

Anyway, every clan have boters, some are unlucky and got ban some not.

Dont think that 'reporting someone boting and to bot after it himself' is something strange or etc, same way is in the real life. And soon will be more stuff like that probably when big raids farming will start, l2 drama wtf :P
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 11:59:57 AM
Can't believe you don't see what's wrong with this situation, do you even know what it means to be GM ? oO
And your replies... just show immaturity to me, which is quite dreadful when we know you are a GM...

At start i had some respect for your work since you were active and all, but knowing you are playing on this server... just lost all respect/trust because for me it can't be anything else than one big joke.

And i might start to understand why you don't ban from older video... which for me is stupid, guys used a bot to lvl their char 78+ for example but because they stopped now that they are 78, that's fine ? so fair ;)

Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 12:03:44 PM
Quote from: Lecktor on June 12, 2010, 11:55:32 AM
we had brainless corrupted cow glasy on x15

i moved to here , to have non playing gm's

wtf wtf this suck again

Lecktor :) you should be last to talk considering some of your pm's .. You were all fine with me banning people, until Teargas got banned :)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:10:01 PM
what about me ?     cry mode on ? 

i got ban but   i got all my items so   in 3 days i was   making already retail   and for pwn  u  1 more time  like u got owned much in this topic with ur QQing friends   gm is checking me    .

active  proove?         http://img810.imageshack.us/i/shot01127.png/     http://img819.imageshack.us/i/shot01129.png/

So Jaila isnt corrupted mb he overreact sometimes but he is fair   kkthnxbb
And why would you get your items back ? oO
Since when a ban let you get back your items or did i miss something ?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Torn on June 12, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
OH what a drama, 1st of all you must understand that Jailas Logs are monitored every day and there is no way he can be "corrupted" or anything, his decissions are always consulted by me and advised what to do. We dont protect any clan any perso any alliance basically YOU ARE ALL SAME TO US, doesnt matter if you play 10 years 1 month 1 week old player or new player donator or non donator, if you are using l2w you will  be banned no matter what. Also Jaila is getting PMs (i see the logs) from all the players on server checking EVERYONE not  any clan based, and i can tell you 1 thing, if EXi clan doesnt use bots now for any reason maybe they are just too jealose seeing other people using l2w while they are too affraid to do same since they know they will be banned too, in the end why you think they dont use l2w atm, if we dont wanna ban them they would use it right?
So all this story about "corruption" or anything FAILS big time, and i wont tolerate this false acusations. We are not playing on server where we are GMs and we will never do it, so we dont care for any clan you are all same to us.

PLAY FAIR BE SAFE.

Thanks.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Heray on June 12, 2010, 12:17:37 PM
Pwned? s00r from the banned char you cant take items .so gm must help you
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 12:18:49 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:10:01 PM
i got ban but   i got all my items so   in 3 days i was   making already retail   

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
this is my own business  if u able get back too  :-*
(doesnt have to do with gms)
What, GMs let you time to trade your stuff and didn't see it ? cause i don't see any other way.
Didn't the GM checked logs to see if there had be trade ? come on...

So you're now lvling again with the stuff you might have got while boting ?

Woot nice doing GMs :)

Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
for u all noobz  after i got reported  i had 3 days for transfer items   kk now ?
Haha even more stupid than i thought... get ban but let you transfer stuff... LOL
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 12:22:04 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
  after i got reported  i had 3 days for transfer items

Fast GM Reaction  :D :D :D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 12:23:20 PM
He got away with items same like    MAKSI, they were reported on forum, they saw .. they transfered items cause they knew they would get ban. Neither me nor ^Torn^ are online 24/7.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
3 days
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 12:26:14 PM
Quote from: Heray on June 12, 2010, 12:17:37 PM
Pwned? s00r from the banned char you cant take items .so gm must help you

Do you understand that there are many ways to' get back items'? Thats quite simple, he was reported before Jaila became gm, in that time when you were reported and until gm see topic, you were able to do anything(correct me if im wrong, but now if someone is suspected for using walker, he is jailed , right?). And you are quite stupid if you see topic about you with 100% proofs using walker and do nothing. Transfer items to other account, give items for friend to keep it, put it to clan wh and so on.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 12:26:21 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:25:17 PM
well jaila in my place u whouldnt do it ? 

if i was gm at that time you probably wouldn't have gotten away with it ... recently people don't even post in badusers, they send me private messages so people don't transfer their items.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 12:23:20 PM
He got away with items same like    MAKSI, they were reported on forum, they saw .. they transfered items cause they knew they would get ban. Neither me nor ^Torn^ are online 24/7.
And ? can't you check log to see if they transfered anything ? and then remove the stuff... :s

Ok they loose the char and lvl... but if they keep all the stuff they might have gotten while boting (and since they were caught boting, that likely the case).. they will just remake another char pretty fast.

So much for the ban then... :s
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ThunderDome on June 12, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
first of all kazuki noob that was his first time to use bot he was 60 level SK what items u think he got WOW ?~!?!?!?!?
u must be a total moron rly
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 12:32:11 PM
Walker issue only was taken seriously not long ago, those that used walker from the very first day got what they wanted ( im talking about even buffpets, boxes ppl use are a graded) Now you only gonna catch commplete nubcakes that dont read forums and small fishes that just started on this server. Good luck
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Torn on June 12, 2010, 12:35:24 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 12:28:05 PM
but u wasnt 
ps :  back in topic yes  3 days isnt my problem  now i am clean and jaila checked me so
Your annoying arogance regarding other players can just lead you to nice punish.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: deiwidaz on June 12, 2010, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:29:01 PM
And ? can't you check log to see if they transfered anything ? and then remove the stuff... :s

Ok they loose the char and lvl... but if they keep all the stuff they might have gotten while boting (and since they were caught boting, that likely the case).. they will just remake another char pretty fast.

So much for the ban then... :s

There are many ways to transfer items, at least most of items that gm couldnt do anything, simple.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:39:20 PM
Quote from: ThunderDome on June 12, 2010, 12:31:36 PM
first of all kazuki noob that was his first time to use bot he was 60 level SK what items u think he got WOW ?~!?!?!?!?
u must be a total moron rly
Yeah insult me to make your point seem smarter, go ahead ;)

How would i know what lvl he was and what stuff he had ? i didn't see any screen nor video and anyway, that's not the point.
It's not about K0rina only, it's about anybody that can get ban but still save their stuff... sorry if you don't see the problem here, can't help you...

"it was my first time mister officer... believe me, i never did it before"... do you see where i'm going or you need picture ?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ThunderDome on June 12, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
i dont understand what's your all problem ....
he had the chance so he took
gms could check him everyday if they wanna he dont use freaking bot
some people deserve second chance
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 12:56:40 PM
Quote from: ThunderDome on June 12, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
i dont understand what's your all problem ....
he had the chance so he took
gms could check him everyday if they wanna he dont use freaking bot
Ok i'll try to make my point clear.

Imagine i use bots to farm A/S grade set... and once i have them... oh damn i get caught botting and my chars get ban... oh well nevermind, i got time to transfer the stuff i got by botting and now can make a legit char really fast with that stuff, neat !!!

Is it getting more clear for you ?

(again i'm not talking about K0rina only)

Quote from: ThunderDome on June 12, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
some people deserve second chance
And who is supposed to decide who deserve a second chance and who doesn't ?
Because K0rina got some friends he deserves second chance but a random getting caught botting doesn't ?
Sorry but you either give everybody the same punishment or you don't punish at all.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:07:35 PM

Lets remember the guy that selfowned himself with screenshot of l2w preasense he said, I only used l2w to xp my dorf.
This kid says:

Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
i used bot for 2 days cuz i couldnt exp my retail (sk) 


One more lame excuse for Exi? Confirm? :D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
Quote from: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:07:35 PM
Lets remember the guy that selfowned himself with screenshot of l2w preasense he said, I only used l2w to xp my dorf.
This kid says:


One more lame excuse for Exi? Confirm? :D

you do know he was caught and banned for walker right ?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 01:04:12 PM
mb u are not talking only about me but u mention my name
i used bot for 2 days cuz i couldnt exp my retail (sk)  before all items i made i did w/o botting    so  whats the result  2 days bot using =lost char  rdy to get sub    got it now ?
I mention your name because look like ThunderDome think i'm doing a crusade against you when i'm talking about all bots (which still include you...)

Anyway the reasons you botted aren't really my problem... and sorry to say that but it's hard to believe what you say after you got caught, even if what you say is true but i'm sure you can understand.

It's as i said in a previous post "i swear Mr Officer, it's the first time i do that"... do you really think the officer will try to figure out if its true or not ?

The stuff not getting removed is still an issue to me as i said in the example.
Could even motivate few people to bot to farm their stuff if they think that even if they get caught, they still can save the stuff they botted for...
Because on this server it can take way longer to make A grade set than lvling a char 78...
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
I mention your name because look like ThunderDome think i'm doing a crusade against you when i'm talking about all bots (which still include you...)

Anyway the reasons you botted aren't really my problem... and sorry to say that but it's hard to believe what you say after you got caught, even if what you say is true but i'm sure you can understand.

It's as i said in a previous post "i swear Mr Officer, it's the first time i do that"... do you really think the officer will try to figure out if its true or not ?

The stuff not getting removed is still an issue to me as i said in the example.
Could even motivate few people to bot to farm their stuff if they think that even if they get caught, they still can save the stuff they botted for...
Because on this server it can take way longer to make A grade set than lvling a char 78...

when he was banned he had c-grade on :/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1BAk7ljpNI
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
you do know he was caught and banned for walker right ?

Yes i do. However, ip ban or no balls.

In my point of view that banlist contains certain number of people that create new char and bot again after main char is banned.

If you want to make your garden clean from bad grass, you have to take them out with roots, or else they still gonna continue to grow.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChujoZord on June 12, 2010, 01:53:02 PM
JAila close that topic. It's annoying to read that spamm about nothing ...
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:54:35 PM
Quote from: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:45:03 PM
Yes i do. However, ip ban or no balls.

In my point of view that banlist contains certain number of people that create new char and bot again after main char is banned.

i give you list of people that suspected for walker only from exci and i check on daily basis and they know that:

korina, peja, masterghost, hotpussy, pono, pezet, albarosie .. and more :) , i don't think they dare botting anymore
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:54:58 PM
Anyway :) That one bots, that one dont, dont give a damn :) Just play fair :)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 01:55:14 PM
ip ban etc    ? lol u retard    ye go BAN EVERY1 AND AT THE END  U WILL PLAY  ALONE IN THIS FVCKING SERV U AND UR DUAL BOX  IDIOT  
ok i can change my ip when i want  keke?

Grow up kid
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 02:00:54 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 01:58:26 PM
at least i do not QQ  here   (even when i got ban) i didnt even make a QQ topic

Why do you think i should care what you did and what you didnt? :-\
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: sausrainis on June 12, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
Quote from: k0rina on June 12, 2010, 02:01:27 PM
ok then if u dont care do not reply aka QQ  again here 


Listen, il post my comments wherever i want and whenever i want, just dont want to be a part of conversation with a kid that doesnt respect other peoples oppinion. Dont bother responding.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:28:39 PM
when he was banned he had c-grade on :/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1BAk7ljpNI

C grade because he was xping retail.
So he said he only botted to xp retail but honestly, what's prove he didn't bot on main too ? his words ? for me they have no value even if what he says is the truth... if he wanted to be believed, shouldn't have botted in first place.

The point is, as you can't be sure that he didn't bot on main too... and as he got caught botting (for any reasons he... or others give)... you should assume he botted the whole char, which include the stuff of the main too.

Or do you believe people you catch botting when they all tell you it's the very first time ?

It's the same for all.. not K0rina in particular (just unlucky he has been the example since the beginning of this post)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Anulk4 on June 12, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
yeah :) sure.

1. i'm not always at my computer
2. cherry reported, i came to check

Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol. Exci or any other clan i suspect of botting are harassed as much as you guys are :).

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png)

O.o why haven't you ban them all yet then?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: 6bIK on June 12, 2010, 07:12:51 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
yeah :) sure.

1. i'm not always at my computer
2. cherry reported, i came to check

Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol. Exci or any other clan i suspect of botting are harassed as much as you guys are :).

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9420/shot00063.png)

gm's 1 thing for u, with bot log is more simple and less lag ;]
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Kyouzo on June 12, 2010, 08:23:48 PM
it just amazes me how ppl that cant play fair are whining  here about how mistreated they are.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: bajaksc on June 13, 2010, 07:36:04 AM
you cant kill us on pvp this is a problem.... ;/ sry guys but day by day we are stronger ;/
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Ashee on June 13, 2010, 07:44:47 AM
Quote from: 6bIK on June 12, 2010, 07:12:51 PM
gm's 1 thing for u, with bot log is more simple and less lag ;]

sadly it's true. But there is another way to solve it. Buy better PC. (Its not for you. For everyone.)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 13, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
Quote from: Torek [IF] on June 13, 2010, 01:02:27 PM
well normally a gm shouldn't play in any clan but if the gm is a clever and mature person he can do his job without any problems (f.e. piccy on infinity, he plays in one of the oldest and great clans of infy but he is a good person so noone complain about him.)

but, according to this tread, many many many ppl don't want jailaa as gm, it means that in some way he helps his clan....


torn i suggest u to check jailaa's work closer and harder

... for the milionth time, I AM NOT IN ANY CLAN !
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Ashee on June 13, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
Lvl 7 Clan with nice clan skills recruiting gms.

:Dl
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 01:37:08 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:04:24 AM
Torn knows that I am actually a clan member of Exci xD lol. Exci or any other clan i suspect of botting are harassed as much as you guys are :).



Quote from: jailaa on June 13, 2010, 01:11:49 PM
... for the milionth time, I AM NOT IN ANY CLAN !

no comment
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Ryoko on June 13, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
Do u know what sarcasm is ?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 13, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
Quote from: Ryoko on June 13, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
Do u know what sarcasm is ?

I don't think he does, a study shows that only people over a certain IQ can detect sarcasm
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: k0dex on June 13, 2010, 02:01:32 PM
well I do know now;] sorry for mess, peace.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: magnitogorsk on June 13, 2010, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Kazuki on June 12, 2010, 11:47:35 AM
Quite funny, i thought it was a forum on which we could give our opinions about what is wrong on the server ?

And sorry if you don't see it, but a GM playing on the server he's managing IS wrong.
Even if you are not in excidium clan, your opinion might be biased by what you do or did while playing, what ppl did to you etc...   and sorry to say, there is nothing you can do to change that because as everybodyelse , you are just another human being.

But yes, threaten ppl with ban etc.... for sure that will solve everything...

GM playing in some clan was EXACTLY one of the main reasons dragon x15 died.Ask Glasy alla Ebolas if you don`t believe me  ;) ;)
But if he says he don`t, u must believe him against the odds ;) ;) After all, he is GM on DN  ;) ;)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ThornPL on June 13, 2010, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:46:05 AM
Are you stupid or just pretending ? That's a screenshot sent to me by Fun

Jun 10 2010 12:51PM   Fun   -   NEVER!   ^Torn^

just LOL ....plz stfu b1tch

ur GM? :D  u r fuccking kid
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChillyWilly on June 13, 2010, 03:13:23 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 13, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
I don't think he does, a study shows that only people over a certain IQ can detect sarcasm

I'm pretty good with sarcasm, and I missed it the first time, too.  ;D
Text makes it a bit harder to see...  maybe use "  ::) " with it, to help recognition?    :-*
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Ashanti on June 13, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
GM's shouldn't play at the server as normal player ... but atm i don't see that jailaa is banning ppl from one clan and don't ban ppl from other clan ... This whole topic is just missunderstanding and acussing jailaa just because he didn't answer on one pm. Guys be seriuos ... and think a little bit: how many pm's in one time have GM's? It is normal that he can miss one or two or even few more pm's. Also remeber that not all of you have a good english or can say clear what they want ... u have some example -> Korina ;)



So cool down ppl ... we will see in the future if jailaa is objective or not ... And now, let him work a little bit and other GM's take a carefull look on him.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jimterr on June 13, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:54:35 PM
korina, peja, masterghost, hotpussy, pono, pezet, albarosie .. and more :) , i don't think they dare botting anymore


Are U fck ing kidding me ?
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ThornPL on June 13, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 01:54:35 PM
i give you list of people that suspected for walker only from exci and i check on daily basis and they know that:

korina, peja, masterghost, hotpussy, pono, pezet, albarosie .. and more :) , i don't think they dare botting anymore

BUUUAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no, cuz they dont need exp more

ps. U R FUCCKING IDIOT!!!!
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: MyCookie on June 13, 2010, 11:32:41 PM
i see only exi members protecting jaila xD so funny
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: pigozord on June 13, 2010, 11:41:41 PM
Quote from: Ashanti on June 13, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
This whole topic is just missunderstanding and acussing jailaa just because he didn't answer on one pm.

you are wrong. this topic was made, cuz same time when jaila came check our 2 chars, he recived some pms about other bot. result - only lolclave chars were checked.

so keep your cool stories to yourself bro.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: Tyler on June 14, 2010, 12:15:30 AM
Quote from: MyCookie on June 13, 2010, 11:32:41 PM
i see only exi members protecting jaila xD so funny

Good remark.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: EsaKeDoem on June 14, 2010, 04:30:06 AM
Quote from: Torn on June 12, 2010, 12:15:03 PM
OH what a drama, 1st of all you must understand that Jailas Logs are monitored every day and there is no way he can be "corrupted" or anything, his decissions are always consulted by me and advised what to do. We dont protect any clan any perso any alliance basically YOU ARE ALL SAME TO US, doesnt matter if you play 10 years 1 month 1 week old player or new player donator or non donator, if you are using l2w you will  be banned no matter what. Also Jaila is getting PMs (i see the logs) from all the players on server checking EVERYONE not  any clan based, and i can tell you 1 thing, if EXi clan doesnt use bots now for any reason maybe they are just too jealose seeing other people using l2w while they are too affraid to do same since they know they will be banned too, in the end why you think they dont use l2w atm, if we dont wanna ban them they would use it right?
So all this story about "corruption" or anything FAILS big time, and i wont tolerate this false acusations. We are not playing on server where we are GMs and we will never do it, so we dont care for any clan you are all same to us.

PLAY FAIR BE SAFE.



Thanks.

Didn't you say you can't be 24/7 on PC, and actually how big is the GM's staff here, i mean can you even afort your self to cover atleast 12 hours a day , on 5 servers? ROFL. :-X And how should ppl plaiing here understand Basically ?
And i see how DN dies faster. :o ;D ::)
R.I.P DN ! I don't know how private network of servers depending on ppls mothly willing to pay donations , can afort having bots on server and not active GM's to observe game from first day of servers.Couse with  bot you won't pay any donation on server couse you get absolutly free all you need without moving a finger. So i ask why to donate when i can bot to get it ROFL and from this don't loose only normal players but also server owners.Especially at a small comunity like DN (once upon a time it wasn't).Lets drain all the milk from the cow till it dies folks .This seems to be the case now and here iff you ask me .
And here we have next topic about corupted GM's on DN and bots.
Not first post not last nothing will change .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjEUmdb2eh0 - Old as Hell and active to the bone !Sry didn't find English vertion.Still .... :-*
Best regards from Atreia cya Folks in next stupid topic, whylle i wait damn kisk to finish. ;D
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: MyCookie on June 14, 2010, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Bav3 on June 14, 2010, 12:04:51 AM
i see only jealous kid crying
arent u exi too ? xDD
+1 from meh anyway

i cant say anything about jaila becuz we didnt face anywhere but " Players > New GMs "
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: DarkGirlsS on June 14, 2010, 10:22:24 AM
Excidium recruits  only :
chaters
l2w users 
Gm 
if you wanna join leave post :)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 14, 2010, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: MyCookie on June 13, 2010, 11:32:41 PM
i see only exi members protecting jaila xD so funny

exi are the only ones who know 100% that i'm not exci members, that's why they not crying about me
FYI users banned from "top" clans since i'm GM:
banned from enclave: 1 or 2 ( only 1 temp ban) ( mryoocker temp) ( i don't know if Wodo is from enclave but I think so )
banned from zerg: 2 (1 full / 1 temp) ( dsquared / ichaoswalkeri or smth)
banned from fatalillusions: 1 ( Maksi)
banned from excidium: 3 ( fun / dralo / firesoul ) all perma
banned from goldragon: 0 i think .. not sure
banned from crows: 1 (doncorleone)
banned from diversion: 2 or 3 i think (teargas + 2 others .. name escapes me but i got them at home)


so let's see: 6 perma from exci+diversion alliance / 2 perma + 2 temp from enclave+zerg ally / 1 perma from FI + Crows + Goldragon

This report obviously shows that I'm an excidium member .. (( ---- WARNING !!!!!! :: THIS WAS SARCASM :: !!!!! WARNING ---- )))
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: MyCookie on June 14, 2010, 12:10:39 PM
be cool jaili$h, just i say only what i saw, why ur so nerveous and sending post like a kiddo, u r the GM take care act like that

its hard to being gm even if u are playing the same server as player imo choose one way

ps. just im imaging ur pc > 1 box (jaili$h) + triple double box (bot farming) haha (kidding only)
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChillyWilly on June 14, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
omg, all this drama.  And to think, it all could have been avoided in the first place if NOBODY HAD EVER STARTED CHEATING BY USING WALKER.  IDK which clans are "top", and what's more I couldn't possibly care less, they and their little pixel-wars don't affect me at all.  My chars are unknown, unimportant, uninfluential and insignificant on this server.  And yet...  the one time one of my little low lvl nobodies pm'd with a bot report, it was checked out instantly. Not only checked out, but quite unexpectedly I recieved a reply and report on the result! 
All this entire thread proves is that Jailaa is making people's fingers twitch a bit before they hit that l2W start button.... a good thing.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: 2nFear on June 14, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 12, 2010, 11:40:36 AM

2. Torn knows all my ingame chars
btw what are ur chars ingame? :P
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: jailaa on June 14, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: 2nFear on June 14, 2010, 05:46:53 PM
btw what are ur chars ingame? :P

Larry, Curly & Moe
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: ChillyWilly on June 14, 2010, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: jailaa on June 14, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Larry, Curly & Moe

rofl...  true or not, either way I gotta love your sense of humor.
Title: Re: =Jaila= Obiectivity. ^Torn^ make something...
Post by: 700 on June 15, 2010, 10:10:32 AM
Quote from: jailaa on June 14, 2010, 05:57:31 PM
Larry, Curly & Moe

The Three Stooges = dream team :D