I know dragon is a private server and i am 100% agree with dontations. I didnt wrote nothing all those year aboute it ..there it was lot of red Dildo in this server for kinda many fags. But listen you all! : thats not enough! and will never be enough for this group of players moust of them from CB!
and you know why?
Becouse they simply dont wanna have any enemy skills disturbing them in pvp.
All the mage are really owned now cuz those pleyers from CB they have the gm in msn.Making jocks speaking aboute ladys bla bla bla. etc....and after words they sending arrows like " listen blizard, sleep, slow anchoor etc its rly OVERPOWERD, but they dont say nothing aboute archers range,and somehow they got what they want from GM
Next week they willl find something else from mage to be nerfed and so on...
Those days NO matter if u are necro , sh or sps becouse they have the same rate on crits (tested from 100 hits on npc). NO matter if u have valakas anyway and as far i noticed price of the moust wanted jew now is just a bs, ppl are send 100 shouts on hero chat to sell a valakas lol.
Its rly funny a mage as me with 9000 m atk to hit on archers with 2-300 dmg..lol thats not enough even for CP.
BTW : did u ever seen mage wrting " lol i kill archers on fll cp"
well archers write daily this.
Iv seen nitopamy trading items in WTS section.
Orin was writing few days ago aboute u need 4 boots to fight with a archer ! thats true
im really searching for a better server cuz all i wrote aboute it show what kind of pers is track ...but wtf !!! where i think i am? its not geneva court here its just a private server with a GM what it cames from a fighter player and tones of pm in msn from CB clan.
Quote from: NYPD on September 13, 2009, 09:53:40 PM
I know dragon is a private server and i am 100% agree with dontations. I didnt wrote nothing all those year aboute it ..there it was lot of red Dildo in this server for kinda many fags. But listen you all! : thats not enough! and will never be enough for this group of players moust of them from CB!
and you know why?
Becouse they simply dont wanna have any enemy skills disturbing them in pvp.
All the mage are really owned now cuz those pleyers from CB they have the gm in msn.Making jocks speaking aboute ladys bla bla bla. etc....and after words they sending arrows like " listen blizard, sleep, slow anchoor etc its rly OVERPOWERD, but they dont say nothing aboute archers range,and somehow they got what they want from GM
Next week they willl find something else from mage to be nerfed and so on...
Those days NO matter if u are necro , sh or sps becouse they have the same rate on crits . NO matter if u have valakas anyway and as far i noticed price of the moust wanted jew now is just a bs, ppl are send 100 shouts on hero chat to sell a valakas lol.
Its rly funny a mage as me with 9000 m atk to hit on archers with 2-300 dmg..lol thats not enough even for CP.
BTW : did u ever seen mage wrting " lol i kill archers on fll cp"
well archers write daily this.
Iv seen nitopamy trading items in WTS section.
Orin was writing few days ago aboute u need 4 boots to fight with a archer ! thats true
im really searching for a better server cuz all i wrote aboute it show what kind of pers is track ...but wtf !!! where i think i am? its not geneva court here its just a private server with a GM what it cames from a fighter player and tones of pm in msn from CB clan.
i am from CB, hence i am overpowered ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 09:56:09 PM
i am from CB, hence i am overpowered ;D
You are out of discution.
i hae no idea even what weapon u use or armore
never sow u ..
I have track on MSN, I am overpowered too.
nerf MSN!
Quote from: NYPD on September 13, 2009, 09:53:40 PM
I know dragon is a private server and i am 100% agree with dontations. I didnt wrote nothing all those year aboute it ..there it was lot of red Dildo in this server for kinda many fags. But listen you all! : thats not enough! and will never be enough for this group of players moust of them from CB!
and you know why?
Becouse they simply dont wanna have any enemy skills disturbing them in pvp.
All the mage are really owned now cuz those pleyers from CB they have the gm in msn.Making jocks speaking aboute ladys bla bla bla. etc....and after words they sending arrows like " listen blizard, sleep, slow anchoor etc its rly OVERPOWERD, but they dont say nothing aboute archers range,and somehow they got what they want from GM
Next week they willl find something else from mage to be nerfed and so on...
Those days NO matter if u are necro , sh or sps becouse they have the same rate on crits . NO matter if u have valakas anyway and as far i noticed price of the moust wanted jew now is just a bs, ppl are send 100 shouts on hero chat to sell a valakas lol.
Its rly funny a mage as me with 9000 m atk to hit on archers with 2-300 dmg..lol thats not enough even for CP.
BTW : did u ever seen mage wrting " lol i kill archers on fll cp"
well archers write daily this.
Iv seen nitopamy trading items in WTS section.
Orin was writing few days ago aboute u need 4 boots to fight with a archer ! thats true
im really searching for a better server cuz all i wrote aboute it show what kind of pers is track ...but wtf !!! where i think i am? its not geneva court here its just a private server with a GM what it cames from a fighter player and tones of pm in msn from CB clan.
1st of all , Hi mesalina or ill say ig name L33tshame, and yes obviously u are mage. However this post was really LOL and i wont even comment it , but i can tell u only this, if u continue to spam this sh1t in every single topic ull be erased,since lies u are speaking are quite annoying , i have temp on msn too, means they re OP too? Go do something better in Norway then making xxx accs on forum and talking nonsense.
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
1st of all , Hi mesalina or ill say ig name L33tshame, and yes obviously u are mage. However this post was really LOL and i wont even comment it , but i can tell u only this, if u continue to spam this sh1t in every single topic ull be erased,since lies u are speaking are quite annoying , i have temp on msn too, means they re OP too? Go do something better in Norway then making xxx accs on forum and talking nonsense.
god damn and i though was Nitotardy ;<
Messalina and Nitotard same shit anyways so i was close !
Thank you sir for making my day made me lol irl.
the topic of the month imo .
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 13, 2009, 10:14:14 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
u cheat me with track ? xD </3
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
Sticky ;D?
no doubt !
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Dude, you got issues.
Definitely stupid post etc, but we all know archers are OP against mage nowadays, cut the crap its definitely a fact
ive track on msn and not only i dont get free nerfs & weapons but also all he does is calling me nazi. :(.
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
1st of all , Hi mesalina or ill say ig name L33tshame, and yes obviously u are mage. However this post was really LOL and i wont even comment it , but i can tell u only this, if u continue to spam this sh1t in every single topic ull be erased,since lies u are speaking are quite annoying , i have temp on msn too, means they re OP too? Go do something better in Norway then making xxx accs on forum and talking nonsense.
Instead of cecking ip on forum and threatening ppl with "erase " of the characters better log in with a mage and try some pvs
At the momment mage are amusement for archers.
You got fast rep to my post but for mage "needs" you dont even ignore us,
You nerfs us.
Quote from: NYPD on September 13, 2009, 09:53:40 PM
I know dragon is a private server and i am 100% agree with dontations. I didnt wrote nothing all those year aboute it ..there it was lot of red Dildo in this server for kinda many fags. But listen you all! : thats not enough! and will never be enough for this group of players moust of them from CB!
and you know why?
Becouse they simply dont wanna have any enemy skills disturbing them in pvp.
All the mage are really owned now cuz those pleyers from CB they have the gm in msn.Making jocks speaking aboute ladys bla bla bla. etc....and after words they sending arrows like " listen blizard, sleep, slow anchoor etc its rly OVERPOWERD, but they dont say nothing aboute archers range,and somehow they got what they want from GM
Next week they willl find something else from mage to be nerfed and so on...
Those days NO matter if u are necro , sh or sps becouse they have the same rate on crits . NO matter if u have valakas anyway and as far i noticed price of the moust wanted jew now is just a bs, ppl are send 100 shouts on hero chat to sell a valakas lol.
Its rly funny a mage as me with 9000 m atk to hit on archers with 2-300 dmg..lol thats not enough even for CP.
BTW : did u ever seen mage wrting " lol i kill archers on fll cp"
well archers write daily this.
Iv seen nitopamy trading items in WTS section.
Orin was writing few days ago aboute u need 4 boots to fight with a archer ! thats true
im really searching for a better server cuz all i wrote aboute it show what kind of pers is track ...but wtf !!! where i think i am? its not geneva court here its just a private server with a GM what it cames from a fighter player and tones of pm in msn from CB clan.
On second though i decided to answer you serious on ur bullcraps .
You talking about range ,huh blame NCsoft about that cause since IL got extra range ,now you noticed it? you must be retarted.
Talking about mage's critical rate ,huh since HB mages critical rate is nerfed by NCsoft ,so blame the korean freaks or reroll.
If you knew shit about l2 ,you should already know that Blizzard and rest "new HB" slows from ages were bugged to land 100% so what did you except?to stay like this?would be cool if my hamsting was landing 100% on everyone?
Talking about cancel ,huh i m sry but NCsoft changed it after c2 yo !!! It would be cool if it was removing all buff/dance huh?
Archers are overpowerd? huh check my last pvp video how i hit mages for 1k with damn +16 bow,did i cry?No cause they know how to buff themselfs and i m patient to w8 the resist to pass away and kill them.
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM IF YOU CANT BUFF UR SELF PROPERLY.
I wont comment at all the "friendly relationship" you claiming between CB and Track since whole server knows what kind of retard you are.
roflmao! xD
thats freakin sick! xD
Quote from: our4n0s on September 13, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
Definitely stupid post etc, but we all know archers are OP against mage nowadays, cut the crap its definitely a fact
oh,come on...wasn't mage's dmg pimped recently?
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 10:06:46 PM
1st of all , Hi mesalina or ill say ig name L33tshame, and yes obviously u are mage. However this post was really LOL and i wont even comment it , but i can tell u only this, if u continue to spam this sh1t in every single topic ull be erased,since lies u are speaking are quite annoying , i have temp on msn too, means they re OP too? Go do something better in Norway then making xxx accs on forum and talking nonsense.
Wtf is this ? ignoreing the players... like the doctor ignoring the patient i the bad who is gone there to heal him self? i can say one thing about messalinna its a good player and a good man .... u need to love this ppl like messalinna and NiToPaMi bcs they are the greatest players ever not like the other ppl like Alteo the QQ man plays oly to do some thing bad to other ppl to make them feel bad .
Why u didnt NERF MANA BURN when NiToPaMi told you....? and now altheo says lol every body have celestial shield and 5 min u lerf celestial shield... i can say that this gm dont care about other ppl who are playing GM ONLY CARE FOR DONATORS ........ QQ GM
Quote from: NYPD on September 13, 2009, 09:53:40 PM
I know dragon is a private server and i am 100% agree with dontations. I didnt wrote nothing all those year aboute it ..there it was lot of red Dildo in this server for kinda many fags. But listen you all! : thats not enough! and will never be enough for this group of players moust of them from CB!
and you know why?
Becouse they simply dont wanna have any enemy skills disturbing them in pvp.
All the mage are really owned now cuz those pleyers from CB they have the gm in msn.Making jocks speaking aboute ladys bla bla bla. etc....and after words they sending arrows like " listen blizard, sleep, slow anchoor etc its rly OVERPOWERD, but they dont say nothing aboute archers range,and somehow they got what they want from GM
Next week they willl find something else from mage to be nerfed and so on...
Those days NO matter if u are necro , sh or sps becouse they have the same rate on crits . NO matter if u have valakas anyway and as far i noticed price of the moust wanted jew now is just a bs, ppl are send 100 shouts on hero chat to sell a valakas lol.
Its rly funny a mage as me with 9000 m atk to hit on archers with 2-300 dmg..lol thats not enough even for CP.
BTW : did u ever seen mage wrting " lol i kill archers on fll cp"
well archers write daily this.
Iv seen nitopamy trading items in WTS section.
Orin was writing few days ago aboute u need 4 boots to fight with a archer ! thats true
im really searching for a better server cuz all i wrote aboute it show what kind of pers is track ...but wtf !!! where i think i am? its not geneva court here its just a private server with a GM what it cames from a fighter player and tones of pm in msn from CB clan.
+1 no coments
Quote from: NYPD on September 13, 2009, 09:58:54 PM
You are out of discution.
i hae no idea even what weapon u use or armore
never sow u ..
dc set, am+acu+3... you know, l33t stuff, what pr0 ppl use ;D
Quote from: munman on September 13, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
Wtf is this ? ignoreing the players... like the doctor ignoring the patient i the bad who is gone there to heal him self? i can say one thing about messalinna its a good player and a good man .... u need to love this ppl like messalinna and NiToPaMi bcs they are the greatest players ever not like the other ppl like Alteo the QQ man plays oly to do some thing bad to other ppl to make them feel bad .
Why u didnt NERF MANA BURN when NiToPaMi told you....? and now altheo says lol every body have celestial shield and 5 min u lerf celestial shield... i can say that this gm dont care about other ppl who are playing GM ONLY CARE FOR DONATORS ........ QQ GM
When i nerfed celestial shield?
I need nerf cause Nitopami told me?
Is only NP "op with archers" or its same on all servers?Let me guess CB have all other gms on msn?
I didnt say ill erase ur chars i said ill just erase ur posts in every topic that u paste this nonsense.
I didnt ignore any1 since i replyed is it?
It means if i OP now mages , it means i am fair?
Quote from: munman on September 13, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
Wtf is this ? ignoreing the players... like the doctor ignoring the patient i the bad who is gone there to heal him self? i can say one thing about messalinna its a good player and a good man .... u need to love this ppl like messalinna and NiToPaMi bcs they are the greatest players ever not like the other ppl like Alteo the QQ man plays oly to do some thing bad to other ppl to make them feel bad .
Why u didnt NERF MANA BURN when NiToPaMi told you....? and now altheo says lol every body have celestial shield and 5 min u lerf celestial shield... i can say that this gm dont care about other ppl who are playing GM ONLY CARE FOR DONATORS ........ QQ GM
lol for sure must be sticky !!!
Quote from: our4n0s on September 13, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
Definitely stupid post etc, but we all know archers are OP against mage nowadays, cut the crap its definitely a fact
Ah,but did u leave Oly? +1 for u.
Now it's time to find out'bout CoP,WindStorm,and so !
Quote from: munman on September 13, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
u need to love this ppl like messalinna and NiToPaMi bcs they are the greatest players ever
pleaseeeeeeeeeeee xD no need to jump in the deep end. take it easy shoo shoo
lol topic xD def sticky!
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 13, 2009, 11:23:15 PM
dc set, am+acu+3... you know, l33t stuff, what pr0 ppl use ;D
QQ DONATOR!
Quote from: munman on September 13, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
Wtf is this ? ignoreing the players... like the doctor ignoring the patient i the bad who is gone there to heal him self? i can say one thing about messalinna its a good player and a good man .... u need to love this ppl like messalinna and NiToPaMi bcs they are the greatest players ever not like the other ppl like Alteo the QQ man plays oly to do some thing bad to other ppl to make them feel bad .
Why u didnt NERF MANA BURN when NiToPaMi told you....? and now altheo says lol every body have celestial shield and 5 min u lerf celestial shield... i can say that this gm dont care about other ppl who are playing GM ONLY CARE FOR DONATORS ........ QQ GM
he made another account to say that him and nito are the best players ever AHAHAH let me ROFL plz...
archers are fine, hiting tank for max >1k< at sieges is ok for me :)
HAHAHA Dude you got menal issues ;D ;D ;D
Maybe you should try using the other skills you have (such as dark vortex, curse of abyss, curse of gloom) seeing as everytime I see you its just nuke nuke nuke fail :/
track ,dude let us finish this topic then make it sticky :D:D:D:D anyway can i start QQ with few things too? xDDD
Quote from: zthrx on September 13, 2009, 11:56:08 PM
archers are fine, hiting tank for max >1k< at sieges is ok for me :)
that was me ;<
Quote from: Zuluman on September 14, 2009, 12:05:24 AM
HAHAHA Dude you got menal issues ;D ;D ;D
Maybe you should try using the other skills you have (such as dark vortex, curse of abyss, curse of gloom) seeing as everytime I see you its just nuke nuke nuke fail :/
1 I'm always using vortex before nuke for a bigger dmg
2 Abyss have a short range (same as your brain) and archers are always out from it.
3 I already cast 3 times gloom for landind ...if it land ppl have now over 2 k m def
Quote from: cthon on September 13, 2009, 11:54:25 PM
he made another account to say that him and nito are the best players ever AHAHAH let me ROFL plz...
Are you a forum moderator and i dont know?
At least i am brave and i didnt reroled like FailedAmeteurniceStar or AbracadabraElesee sps .And you all begging for nerfs.
Quote from: Takashii on September 14, 2009, 12:12:40 AM
start QQ!!!! coz u hit him so weak xD
every archer was hitting for 1k
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:25:03 AM
Are you a forum moderator and i dont know?
At least i am brave and i didnt reroled like FailedAmeteurniceStar or AbracadabraElesee sps .And you all begging for nerfs.
EllessePIMP> CryMeARiverCozImAStupidfreakWithNoBrainsAndCantKillAnyone, Just incase you lack the brain cells to work out who that is.... it you :).
Quote from: Deavon on September 13, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
On second though i decided to answer you serious on ur bullcraps .
You talking about range ,huh blame NCsoft about that cause since IL got extra range ,now you noticed it? you must be retarted.
Talking about mage's critical rate ,huh since HB mages critical rate is nerfed by NCsoft ,so blame the korean freaks or reroll.
If you knew shit about l2 ,you should already know that Blizzard and rest "new HB" slows from ages were bugged to land 100% so what did you except?to stay like this?would be cool if my hamsting was landing 100% on everyone?
Talking about cancel ,huh i m sry but NCsoft changed it after c2 yo !!! It would be cool if it was removing all buff/dance huh?
Archers are overpowerd? huh check my last pvp video how i hit mages for 1k with damn +16 bow,did i cry?No cause they know how to buff themselfs and i m patient to w8 the resist to pass away and kill them.
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM IF YOU CANT BUFF UR SELF PROPERLY.
I wont comment at all the "friendly relationship" you claiming between CB and Track since whole server knows what kind of retard you are.
I only wish..to see your drama here on forum from your second-rated brain( as long there u have only one word "RETARD" ) when your 3000-4000-5000 damge on mage it will become 200-300 same as me hiting archers
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:25:03 AM
Are you a forum moderator and i dont know?
At least i am brave and i didnt reroled like FailedAmeteurniceStar or AbracadabraElesee sps .And you all begging for nerfs.
super brave to post on new account and hiding who you are xDDDD
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:38:42 AM
I only wish..to see your drama here on forum from your second-rated brain( as long there u have only one word "RETARD" ) when your 3000-4000-5000 damge on mage it will become 200-300 same as me hiting archers
no brain no pain ;<
You are the drama queen here not me :D
And once again blame NCsoft and the fact that you to dumb to buff ur self properly xD
Quote from: Deavon on September 14, 2009, 12:43:28 AM
super brave to post on new account and hiding who you are xDDDD
OFC...look at posts, 99% are only from archers in all the forum. A name like Messalinna under a post it will change the meaning for sure.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:52:24 AM
OFC...look at posts, 99% are only from archers in all the forum. A name like Messalinna under a post it will change the meaning for sure.
Because you are retarted and the 99% of your posts/action/thoughs are stupid,did u ever think about it?I guess no,if you did you would nt be such stupid person. :D
Once more you prooved how coward you are and how you know shit about l2 .
p.s: Should i consider that topic as QQ topic part2? cause you did nt mention my name this time ;<
damn i really missed a topic like this 1 :):):)
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 11:24:28 PM
When i nerfed celestial shield?
I need nerf cause Nitopami told me?
Is only NP "op with archers" or its same on all servers?Let me guess CB have all other gms on msn?
I didnt say ill erase ur chars i said ill just erase ur posts in every topic that u paste this nonsense.
I didnt ignore any1 since i replyed is it?
It means if i OP now mages , it means i am fair?
Track u start to forget some things,do u say before 6 days u will nerf mana burn?
ofc u wont . im not care more what u will do .i will stop write of CB forum (was dragon forum )
write on forum = wasted time only
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 11:24:28 PM
When i nerfed celestial shield?
I need nerf cause Nitopami told me?
Is only NP "op with archers" or its same on all servers?Let me guess CB have all other gms on msn?
I didnt say ill erase ur chars i said ill just erase ur posts in every topic that u paste this nonsense.
I didnt ignore any1 since i replyed is it?
It means if i OP now mages , it means i am fair?
Hmm why not nerf when NiToPaMi told you or Nito is not DONATOR ...? wtf is wrong with you track u listen only donators ..?
If the ppl understand like i understand u they will leave server and what DONATOR'S will play alone?
Let me ask you one thing track did u nerf trigger emp /trigger shield / trgger celestial/ hmmm nice but one thing i cant understand when u nerf that mutch triggers why dont u nerf trigger to altheo and agil they are low skilled for olympiad they dont have skill for hit .. can u tell me that ? btw i'm 5 year's old player and i know one thing about you... u think that u doo so mutch for this server but ur do oly sh1ts.....:(
Quote from: cthon on September 13, 2009, 11:54:25 PM
he made another account to say that him and nito are the best players ever AHAHAH let me ROFL plz...
Here xxxBuBrEkxxx mr.idiot no one is not makeing chars to say nothing QQ
Quote from: Deavon on September 14, 2009, 12:56:43 AM
Because you are retarted and the 99% of your posts/action/thoughs are stupid,did u ever think about it?I guess no,if you did you would nt be such stupid person. :D
Once more you prooved how coward you are and how you know shit about l2 .
p.s: Should i consider that topic as QQ topic part2? cause you did nt mention my name this time ;<
u must to be new admin on dragoon comunity bcz people will learn from u , how and what can write
Quote from: cthon on September 13, 2009, 11:54:25 PM
he made another account to say that him and nito are the best players ever AHAHAH let me ROFL plz...
Let me tell you i never post at forum but i now understand what the freak hapening to server some lame ass makeing problems like you ... uhhh you are so patetic :S
I think its officially the bigest QQ attack in Nightmare history xDDDDDDDDDDD
p.s: its clear that it is totally planed by Nitopami and his dogs .
The plan going like this "we mass QQ on forums with our poor english,we look so desperate and retarted ,so we might earn something from the whole story"
xDDDD
p.s2: you will not earn anything by blackmailing that you will leave the server ,except that you cant do it cause you living to crying ,no one will miss you ,i personally sudject you to gtfo ,no one will miss you anyway and -3-4 retards will make good to image of the server.
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 14, 2009, 02:24:46 AM
u must to be new admin on dragoon comunity bcz people will learn from u , how and what can write
i ll come to agree on that :O
If a player like Nitopami is leaving with such good work on that character..moust of skills are +15 and overenchanted jews armores , it means he is tired of those mage-updates
But a SICK-MIND like you cant understand it , cuz u are limited...same as monkeys
Quote from: Deavon on September 13, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
On second though i decided to answer you serious on ur bullcraps .
You talking about range ,huh blame NCsoft about that cause since IL got extra range ,now you noticed it? you must be retarted.
Talking about mage's critical rate ,huh since HB mages critical rate is nerfed by NCsoft ,so blame the korean freaks or reroll.
If you knew shit about l2 ,you should already know that Blizzard and rest "new HB" slows from ages were bugged to land 100% so what did you except?to stay like this?would be cool if my hamsting was landing 100% on everyone?
Talking about cancel ,huh i m sry but NCsoft changed it after c2 yo !!! It would be cool if it was removing all buff/dance huh?
Archers are overpowerd? huh check my last pvp video how i hit mages for 1k with damn +16 bow,did i cry?No cause they know how to buff themselfs and i m patient to w8 the resist to pass away and kill them.
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM IF YOU CANT BUFF UR SELF PROPERLY.
I wont comment at all the "friendly relationship" you claiming between CB and Track since whole server knows what kind of retard you are.
If you like comparing this server so much with the official, why don't you mention that icarus bow should have the same reuse delay as draco bow and not 2x faster. And that you shouldn't have an extra buffbar for dances/songs since on official they didn't have it in Hellbound... this could go on and on...
Anyways the only problem here is that everyone is full buffed with resist buffs and this might make the pvps last longer but mages are freaked because they use up all the mana before they could kill 1 party. Sure smart ass people are gonna say "use a EE, SE" yea and like 5 people will attack and do 300 damage when in a fighter party 8 people can attack with pretty much bigger damage.
I don't play anymore since the server is really freaked with the things Track implemented by looking at the rivers made by archers when they couldn't 1 shot mages anymore after hellbound was implemented, but looking at the bullshit some people talk here i couldnt resist replaying.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
If you like comparing this server so much with the official, why don't you mention that icarus bow should have the same reuse delay as draco bow and not 2x faster. And that you shouldn't have an extra buffbar for dances/songs since on official they didn't have it in Hellbound... this could go on and on...
Anyways the only problem here is that everyone is full buffed with resist buffs and this might make the pvps last longer but mages are freaked because they use up all the mana before they could kill 1 party. Sure smart ass people are gonna say "use a EE, SE" yea and like 5 people will attack and do 300 damage when in a fighter party 8 people can attack with pretty much bigger damage.
I don't play anymore since the server is really freaked with the things Track implemented by looking at the rivers made by archers when they couldn't 1 shot mages anymore after hellbound was implemented, but looking at the bullshit some people talk here i couldnt resist replaying.
100 % true
In the past was kinda nice when we was buffing us for example defensive against mage or against fighers and there it was the gangbag
Now one party archers come every 5 min with COV from a place teleported by wc with full agresive and defensive bafs, think aboute: TRIPLE dark rez froM, divine .unholy dark song etc.., TRIPLE elemental from pp and sws ..if i count aqua dance is even more and thats why no gloom. surender ,slow lands and damage is under 1 CP potion.I repeat my self : ------under 1cp pot--------------
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
If you like comparing this server so much with the official, why don't you mention that icarus bow should have the same reuse delay as draco bow and not 2x faster. And that you shouldn't have an extra buffbar for dances/songs since on official they didn't have it in Hellbound... this could go on and on...
Anyways the only problem here is that everyone is full buffed with resist buffs and this might make the pvps last longer but mages are freaked because they use up all the mana before they could kill 1 party. Sure smart ass people are gonna say "use a EE, SE" yea and like 5 people will attack and do 300 damage when in a fighter party 8 people can attack with pretty much bigger damage.
I don't play anymore since the server is really freaked with the things Track implemented by looking at the rivers made by archers when they couldn't 1 shot mages anymore after hellbound was implemented, but looking at the bullshit some people talk here i couldnt resist replaying.
Archers and other fighters require much more buffs to be fullbuffed then mages do. Not to mention that they have more selfbuffs (like rapid shot, focus deaths, duelist spirits etc etc.) then mages have. :) Also, having all resists against all mages will eat half of your bufflots and even most of the slots for songs/dances, while mages requires CoP and Wind Storm against fighters/archers, most of them also have self heal which archers are missing. I know that damage dealed by Archers is much higher, but blaming buffslots is not right :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
Archers and other fighters require much more buffs to be fullbuffed then mages do. Not to mention that they have more selfbuffs (like rapid shot, focus deaths, duelist spirits etc etc.) then mages have. :) Also, having all resists against all mages will eat half of your bufflots and even most of the slots for songs/dances, while mages requires CoP and Wind Storm against fighters/archers, most of them also have self heal which archers are missing. I know that damage dealed by Archers is much higher, but blaming buffslots is not right :)
lul
how much u bet i have enough slots to get even all warior dance together with my mage bafs?
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 10:31:27 AM
lul
how much u bet i have enough slots to get even all warior dance together with my mage bafs?
17 056 adena!
because you are mage, and you have no selfbuffs as fighters do. :)
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:32:21 AM
17 056 adena!
because you are mage, and you have no selfbuffs as fighters do. :)
I have 1 Transfer pain 2 , arcanapower, and 3 wildmagic agument buff, 3 slots are gone from the first second.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
I have 1 Transfer pain 2 , arcanapower, and 3 wildmagic agument buff, 3 slots are gone from the first second.
two of them are toggles which are not pushing away other buffs. I have War Cry, Duelist Spirit, Dash, Sonic Move, Rapid shot, Soul of Saggitarius and as for toggles: War Frenzy, Accuracy (I am not using rest of them that much, although I have 3 more).
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:29:45 AM
Archers and other fighters require much more buffs to be fullbuffed then mages do. Not to mention that they have more selfbuffs (like rapid shot, focus deaths, duelist spirits etc etc.) then mages have. :) Also, having all resists against all mages will eat half of your bufflots and even most of the slots for songs/dances, while mages requires CoP and Wind Storm against fighters/archers, most of them also have self heal which archers are missing. I know that damage dealed by Archers is much higher, but blaming buffslots is not right :)
Yea i know you cant have 100% ressist against all mages at the same time, but when your mostly fighting sps or necros you can have atleast 3 ressists stacked up against em... And why is blaming the buffslots not right? Its the only thing that makes the problem here for the mages, whats the difference if mage can heal himself when he cant kill a fighter since hes doing shit dammage. Should he heal himself untill you get bored and use soe or what?
Oh and i have some selfbuffs: UD/Vengance, deflect arrow, magical mirror, iron shield, shield of faith, touch of life... They are usefull, but offcourse i dont use all of em at the same time. I decide what to use depending on what enemys im fighting.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
I have 1 Transfer pain 2 , arcanapower, and 3 wildmagic agument buff, 3 slots are gone from the first second.
lol, togle skills dont eat up your buffslots.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
If you like comparing this server so much with the official, why don't you mention that icarus bow should have the same reuse delay as draco bow and not 2x faster. And that you shouldn't have an extra buffbar for dances/songs since on official they didn't have it in Hellbound... this could go on and on...
Anyways the only problem here is that everyone is full buffed with resist buffs and this might make the pvps last longer but mages are freaked because they use up all the mana before they could kill 1 party. Sure smart ass people are gonna say "use a EE, SE" yea and like 5 people will attack and do 300 damage when in a fighter party 8 people can attack with pretty much bigger damage.
I don't play anymore since the server is really freaked with the things Track implemented by looking at the rivers made by archers when they couldn't 1 shot mages anymore after hellbound was implemented, but looking at the bullshit some people talk here i couldnt resist replaying.
as far as my knowledge about official goes,icarus used to be faster there aswell,but with gracia 2 they made it with the same reuse as the other 2 db's.
and i still cant agree that mages r so week...take a freakin look at blizzard,this skill has 100% land rate even now after the "nerf",i havent seen a freakin sps casting it on me w/o it landing and then the dagger turns into a damned cripple and in the same freakin time aggro and hate aura aint doing much,aggro lands ~1/4 and freak knows the land rate of hate aura.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:17:16 AM
If you like comparing this server so much with the official, why don't you mention that icarus bow should have the same reuse delay as draco bow and not 2x faster. And that you shouldn't have an extra buffbar for dances/songs since on official they didn't have it in Hellbound... this could go on and on...
Anyways the only problem here is that everyone is full buffed with resist buffs and this might make the pvps last longer but mages are freaked because they use up all the mana before they could kill 1 party. Sure smart ass people are gonna say "use a EE, SE" yea and like 5 people will attack and do 300 damage when in a fighter party 8 people can attack with pretty much bigger damage.
I don't play anymore since the server is really freaked with the things Track implemented by looking at the rivers made by archers when they couldn't 1 shot mages anymore after hellbound was implemented, but looking at the bullshit some people talk here i couldnt resist replaying.
+1
Tomek got a point (many in fact) here.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:46:06 AM
Yea i know you cant have 100% ressist against all mages at the same time, but when your mostly fighting sps or necros you can have atleast 3 ressists stacked up against em... And why is blaming the buffslots not right? Its the only thing that makes the problem here for the mages, whats the difference if mage can heal himself when he cant kill a fighter since hes doing shit dammage. Should he heal himself untill you get bored and use soe or what?
lol, togle skills dont eat up your buffslots.
All I am saying is, that you require less buffslots to be buffed against archers and yet remain fullbuffed. When I pvped yesterday at varka I could barely afford having Resist Wind as an extra resist buff (apart from Elemental protection and Unholy Protection, but those 2 are must) because I require a lot more buffs and I have lot more selfbuffs :)
I still suffered great damage from mages, mostly coming due to their m.crits and my shitty m.def, but that's my problem, since I've chosen sub whose main weakness is lack of M.def :)
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 10:50:04 AM
as far as my knowledge about official goes,icarus used to be faster there aswell,but with gracia 2 they made it with the same reuse as the other 2 db's.
and i still cant agree that mages r so week...take a freakin look at blizzard,this skill has 100% land rate even now after the "nerf",i havent seen a freakin sps casting it on me w/o it landing and then the dagger turns into a damned cripple and in the same freakin time aggro and hate aura aint doing much,aggro lands ~1/4 and freak knows the land rate of hate aura.
I guess people didn't get icarus bows instantly on official as on DN, so until people got the first icarus bows and people saw how retarded it is, ncsoft already fixed em.
And what difference does the blizzard make? It takes 1 second for a bishop to remove it, and he can reuse cleanse in a few seconds and even if he doesn't, you wont be able to run away from a mage which damage can be out healed from you spamming cp pots.
Quote from: zthrx on September 14, 2009, 12:25:28 AM
every archer was hitting for 1k
nop coz im hitting little less then 1k :D coz i dont have icarus xD
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
I guess people didn't get icarus bows instantly on official as on DN, so until people got the first icarus bows and people saw how retarded it is, ncsoft already fixed em.
And what difference does the blizzard make? It takes 1 second for a bishop to remove it, and he can reuse cleanse in a few seconds and even if he doesn't, you wont be able to run away from a mage which damage can be out healed from you spamming cp pots.
that's not really truth. It is hard to kite with blizzard on you, and you are kiting mostly because you don't have bishop. If you do have bishop, then you don't give a rats ass about blizzard, since you are pushing enemies, not running away from them :)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:46:06 AM
Yea i know you cant have 100% ressist against all mages at the same time, but when your mostly fighting sps or necros you can have atleast 3 ressists stacked up against em... And why is blaming the buffslots not right? Its the only thing that makes the problem here for the mages, whats the difference if mage can heal himself when he cant kill a fighter since hes doing shit dammage. Should he heal himself untill you get bored and use soe or what?
Oh and i have some selfbuffs: UD/Vengance, deflect arrow, magical mirror, iron shield, shield of faith, touch of life... They are usefull, but offcourse i dont use all of em at the same time. I decide what to use depending on what enemys im fighting.
lol, togle skills dont eat up your buffslots.
it is , after all the buffslots are full i lose TRANSFER PAIN cuz is the last one dunno why ....
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
I guess people didn't get icarus bows instantly on official as on DN, so until people got the first icarus bows and people saw how retarded it is, ncsoft already fixed em.
And what difference does the blizzard make? It takes 1 second for a bishop to remove it, and he can reuse cleanse in a few seconds and even if he doesn't, you wont be able to run away from a mage which damage can be out healed from you spamming cp pots.
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:01:27 AM
that's not really truth. It is hard to kite with blizzard on you, and you are kiting mostly because you don't have bishop. If you do have bishop, then you don't give a rats ass about blizzard, since you are pushing enemies, not running away from them :)
there goes ur answer tomek.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
it is , after all the buffslots are full i lose TRANSFER PAIN cuz is the last one dunno why ....
omfg why do u play this game and u make topics when u don't know shit about it... and u can all gtfo till u learn how to buff..
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 11:03:17 AM
it is , after all the buffslots are full i lose TRANSFER PAIN cuz is the last one dunno why ....
its a graphic bug,i usually cant see vicious stance on,but when i click on it i can see in my system window "vicious stance has been aborted'.
using ur brains wont hurt u,much...
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 11:05:45 AM
its a graphic bug,i usually cant see vicious stance on,but when i click on it i can see in my system window "vicious stance has been aborted'.
using ur brains wont hurt u,much...
true. i noticed it myself. TP doesnt go off, it just aint showing anymore in buff bar.
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 10:55:13 AM
All I am saying is, that you require less buffslots to be buffed against archers and yet remain full buffed. When I pvped yesterday at varka I could barely afford having Resist Wind as an extra resist buff (apart from Elemental protection and Unholy Protection, but those 2 are must) because I require a lot more buffs and I have lot more self buffs :)
I still suffered great damage from mages, mostly coming due to their m.crits and my shitty m.def, but that's my problem, since I've chosen sub whose main weakness is lack of M.def :)
I know fighters are harder to get full buffed, but you dont need to talk about hard times buffing up since its obvious that fighters have enough buff slots cuz if they wouldn't we wouldn't be doing shit damage in pvps right?
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:01:27 AM
that's not really truth. It is hard to kite with blizzard on you, and you are kiting mostly because you don't have bishop. If you do have bishop, then you don't give a rats ass about blizzard, since you are pushing enemies, not running away from them :)
Yea whit a bishop in your party you don't need to kite since its easy for you to survive cuz mages do shit damage, but in small pvps you want to take down mages easy again right? Dude, who would want to play mages? I agree that blizzard shouldnt be landing 100%, but my whole point is that mages suck too much compared to archers. And don't come up with bullshit like archers are ment to kill mages since that's retail and we have DN where its mages vs archers vs daggers and those 3 should be somehow balanced.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 11:17:01 AM
I know fighters are harder to get full buffed, but you dont need to talk about hard times buffing up since its obvious that fighters have enough buff slots cuz if they wouldn't we wouldn't be doing shit damage in pvps right?
Yea whit a bishop in your party you don't need to kite since its easy for you to survive cuz mages do shit damage, but in small pvps you want to take down mages easy again right? Dude, who would want to play mages? I agree that blizzard shouldnt be landing 100%, but my whole point is that mages suck too much compared to archers. And don't come up with bullshit like archers are ment to kill mages since that's retail and we have DN where its mages vs archers vs daggers and those 3 should be somehow balanced.
I never said they don't suck too much :)
I said:
- it is hard to kite with Blizzard on you.
- fighters require more buffs and can't always afford having all resist buffs, while mages can.
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
I never said they don't suck too much :)
I said:
- it is hard to kite with Blizzard on you.
- fighters require more buffs and can't always afford having all resist buffs, while mages can.
hehe, yea your right about the things you just said ;D
But you also said that blaming buff slots isn't right, while it is. Having the old buff slot bar, changing icarus bow to same reuse as draco bow, boosting p.attack of the archers or nerfing song of windstorm and chant of protection is the way to balance things. Mages could also get a cap of 20% crit rate if this would be necessary...
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 11:22:58 AM
hehe, yea your right about the things you just said ;D
But you also said that blaming buff slots isn't right, while it is. Having the old buff slot bar, changing icarus bow to same reuse as draco bow, boosting p.attack of the archers or nerfing song of windstorm and chant of protection is the way to balance things. Mages could also get a cap of 20% crit rate if this would be necessary...
uhm, you want archers to deal even more damage? :) I am just curious, because you are all time saying that mages suck too much :) But I am not against, let's boost p.atk and nerf anti-bow songs and dances :)
FEAR MY CANCELS!!!!!!!!!!
;D
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 14, 2009, 11:41:02 AM
uhm, you want archers to deal even more damage? :) I am just curious, because you are all time saying that mages suck too much :) But I am not against, let's boost p.atk and nerf anti-bow songs and dances :)
Yep, i want archers to have slow attack speed and deal bigger damage like they should and with the old buff bar you wouldn't be able to have all resist buffs like now so mages would also do decent damage.
Oh yea and one more important thing that should be nerfed is FOI to like 5 seconds cuz its pretty retarded that a party can be invincible for 2 minutes when there are enough tanks in it.
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 14, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
QQ ***s check Deathand's movie :D the last 30 sec and u'll got your answer whats overpowered, archers or tank subbed mages.
freak you! ;D
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 14, 2009, 11:53:37 AM
<3 gipsybro :DDDDDDD
: <
/pickpockets Mark.
;o Baium ring!!
:DDDDDDDDD
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
Yep, i want archers to have slow attack speed and deal bigger damage like they should and with the old buff bar you wouldn't be able to have all resist buffs like now so mages would also do decent damage.
Oh yea and one more important thing that should be nerfed is FOI to like 5 seconds cuz its pretty retarded that a party can be invincible for 2 minutes when there are enough tanks in it.
aaaaaa fighter can't afford to have all resists even with current buffbar! :D
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 14, 2009, 11:53:37 AM
<3 gipsybro :DDDDDDD
So sweet!
First gay-mariage on dn server:) casa de piatra wind:) sunt domnisoara ta de onoare:P
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 14, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
QQ ***s check Deathand's movie :D the last 30 sec and u'll got your answer whats overpowered, archers or tank subbed mages.
freak off! :D
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
Yep, i want archers to have slow attack speed and deal bigger damage like they should and with the old buff bar you wouldn't be able to have all resist buffs like now so mages would also do decent damage.
Oh yea and one more important thing that should be nerfed is FOI to like 5 seconds cuz its pretty retarded that a party can be invincible for 2 minutes when there are enough tanks in it.
tomek with all my respect to u,thats quite bullshit imo.
with the old buff system and with my old archer gear i somehow dont remember a fullbuffed mage with ~top gear getting more than 2,3k crits(i aint talking about mage/tank subs),while on the other hand when vortex/surrender/gloom was on me i was hitting the flour quite easily with 3x3k mcrits in 2 sec...
also FOI has nothing to do with tanks...
ps : by "old" system i refer to the late IL
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:17:37 PM
So sweet!
First gay-mariage on dn server:) casa de piatra wind:) sunt domnisoara ta de onoare:P
merci, merci. te facem un gang-bang, eu si mireasa? ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 12:32:04 PM
merci, merci. te facem un gang-bang, eu si mireasa? ;D
Ei hai pentru tine ma sacrific sa o accept pe mireasa.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:38:18 PM
Ei hai pentru tine ma sacrific sa o accept pe mireasa.
mireasa e Mark :D
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:38:18 PM
Ei hai pentru tine ma sacrific sa o accept pe mireasa.
Messalina, tu ce te declari... "m" sau "f"? M-ai bagat in ceata cu ultimele post-uri.
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Messalina, tu ce te declari... "m" sau "f"? M-ai bagat in ceata cu ultimele post-uri.
Ma declar curva deschisa :P
Happy?
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
I knew that!
:D..ma tine
;)
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
Messalina, tu ce te declari... "m" sau "f"? M-ai bagat in ceata cu ultimele post-uri.
e fata probabil. Sau un baiat cu un simt al umorului reprobabil :D
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:42:49 PM
Ma declar curva deschisa
Happy?
Daca tot esti curva, nu-ti poti omori timpul intr-un mod constructiv?
M-am gandit eu ca esti cu "a", deoarece te-ai oferit sa fi "domnisoara de onoare" si nu "cavaler" (bine...puteai pune curul la bataie si in ultimul caz).
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:42:49 PM
Ma declar curva deschisa :P
Happy?
la naiba, nu mai merg aplauzele ;D
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:45:29 PM
Daca tot esti curva, nu-ti poti omori timpul intr-un mod constructiv?
M-am gandit eu ca esti cu "a", deoarece te-ai oferit sa fi "domnisoara de onoare" si nu "cavaler" (bine...puteai pune curul la bataie si in ultimul caz).
ppl geting horny here...la naiba
back to nerfs pls
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 12:46:02 PM
la naiba, nu mai merg aplauzele ;D
Ce dreacu sa aplauzi?! O naroada care se vaita pe games-forum-uri ca i-au "nerfuit" un char intr-un joc?! Imediat isi ia jucariile si pleaca, mai bine ai sustine-o.
Sincer, sper sa fie totusi baiat.
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:46:49 PM
ppl geting horny here...la naiba
back to nerfs pls
no, moar *** spam pls :(
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
Ce dreacu sa aplauzi?! O naroada care se vaita pe games-forum-uri ca i-au "nerfuit" un char intr-un joc?! Imediat isi ia jucariile si pleaca, mai bine ai sustine-o.
necro/pp daca nu ma insel. Toata treaba e ca ii trebuie mai multa experienta cu caracterul ala, si o sa vada ca nu e chiar asa naspa. eh, n-a fost niciodata de top ca damage, dar are cateva curse-uri bune ;)
MAGES FOR SURE ARE F UCKED UP
i see ppl here speaking that if we have problems to go to npsoft. and some others like to compare official with private my answer to them are u blind or what ?
the true is that ic bow need nerf for sure why becouse is not working as it should be ,cmon
why u change the buffslot? WTF was that , we dont need a pvp server if we ned a pvp server we can go to arena. go to previus buff bar
blizzard yes nerfed it as hell make it to have 20% who cares mages are using blizard only to slow enemy but now that buffs is ussels when u are ussing windwalk song of wind even with blizard u can run from mages and they cant come to u and not to mentetion that if mage is using blizard is caching u still he will not do anything since after 1-2 arrows he will be donw. ;D . and i am mage and i have see it many times.
and mostly take a look at server see how many mages u can see ? and how many fighters , the answer is u can see much more fighters becouse there is no balance in server with chars,.
and something more i see here people that came from dragon in nightmare server months ago or year and crying that in dragon evrything was sh1t . unfair blablalba and now u are makeing all those things that others make to you guys on dragon u are makeing them to nightmare ppl. and in every post u answering them with irony and sh1ts , WTF is that ? why u have to answer with sh1ts why u have to be rude ?
but saying that there are Gms friends msn that they saying what to nerf and what not , are totally sh1ts that is the only thing for sure ,
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
Ce dreacu sa aplauzi?! O naroada care se vaita pe games-forum-uri ca i-au "nerfuit" un char intr-un joc?! Imediat isi ia jucariile si pleaca, mai bine ai sustine-o.
Sincer, sper sa fie totusi baiat.
freakme! you call me "noroada"?????
La naiba.. :D
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
freakme! you call me "noroada"?????
La naiba.. :D
Poti sa cazi in derizoriu in multe feluri, e alegerea ta....
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 14, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
necro/pp daca nu ma insel. Toata treaba e ca ii trebuie mai multa experienta cu caracterul ala, si o sa vada ca nu e chiar asa naspa. eh, n-a fost niciodata de top ca damage, dar are cateva curse-uri bune ;)
Am vazut char-ul de cateva ori in Varka; echipat "beton", boti in spate, ii batea binisor pe cei flagati care nu-i acordau atentie.
PS Mark tot ii trage cu gipsy si ***, dar uita ca atunci cand a amintit Tzuc de "bozgor" s-a bubat tot...
Quote from: NIORI on September 14, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
MAGES FOR SURE ARE F UCKED UP
i see ppl here speaking that if we have problems to go to npsoft. and some others like to compare official with private my answer to them are u blind or what ?
the true is that ic bow need nerf for sure why becouse is not working as it should be ,cmon
why u change the buffslot? WTF was that , we dont need a pvp server if we ned a pvp server we can go to arena. go to previus buff bar
blizzard yes nerfed it as hell make it to have 20% who cares mages are using blizard only to slow enemy but now that buffs is ussels when u are ussing windwalk song of wind even with blizard u can run from mages and they cant come to u . and i am mage and i have see it many times.
and mostly take a look at server see how many mages u can see ? and how many fighters , the answer is u can see much more fighters becouse there is no balance in server with chars,.
and something more i see here people that came from dragon in nightmare server months ago or year and crying that in dragon evrything was sh1t . unfair blablalba and now u are makeing all those things that others make to you guys on dragon u are makeing them to nightmare ppl. and in every post u answering them with irony and sh1ts , WTF is that ? why u have to answer with sh1ts why u have to be rude ?
but saying that there are Gms friends msn that they saying what to nerf and what not , are totally sh1ts that is the only thing for sure ,
before complaining, adapt your playstyle. I have DC set, and that means way lower protection against arrows than DNET set. And yet i dont complain against archers, and i can take down even a top archer like Deathand, bluecube, cthon etc down with enough patience, on both self-buff and fullbuff.
i know you dont have TP, but you have other advantages. In my example, on 1 vs 1, i get a meat-bag summon like mirrage, put it on UD, shoot its storm strike once in a while and in the meantime, cancel/warrior bane/weaken/wind shackle the archer.
Yesterday in siege, we were bored and fullbuffed Deathand (nothing personal, just an example of good archer) was doing 400 crits on me (in DC set !!!!!!!! ). At that damage output, with my casting and self-heal durability and cp macro spam i can resist long enough to cast around 5-6 cancels or even more. Even if he has anti-cancel buffs and DNET set, 5-6 cancels = more than half of buffs are gone. After that, its fullbuffed mage vs unbuffed archer, gee, i guess who wins.
And unlike SPS/EE, i dont have pro healing skills. You just need to stay long enough alive to debuff/cancel him.
That is the way to win 1 vs 1.
In mass pvp, just stay in the backline, and do hit-and-go attacks on the frontline. as soon as you get targeted, run to safety.
If neither of those advice wont help, quit the game, you're worthless :)
Edit: as SPS/EE, you have improve movement and improved shield. Given the fact you can take a third symbol of +4 DEX, light elf stats + agility effect, your evasion will be quite high, and so will be your shield defence rate. If the archer uses guidance against that, mana burn him and he'll run out of mana. Stay with your shield towards the attacks and with improved shield, most of the hits will land on shield. that means way lower damage.
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 14, 2009, 12:59:16 PM
Poti sa cazi in derizoriu in multe feluri, e alegerea ta....
Am vazut char-ul de cateva ori in Varka; echipat "beton", boti in spate, ii batea binisor pe cei flagati care nu-i acordau atentie.
PS Mark tot ii trage cu gipsy si ***, dar uita ca atunci cand a amintit Tzuc de "bozgor" s-a bubat tot...
Sa ma pupe in tavanul pizdei acolo unde face pula dans, arzai focul si stenge-iar benzina!
Now there's a break in the chain of replies as everybody is carefully reading and learning from my wise-ass post ;D
*rubs beard*
Quote from: NIORI on September 14, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
MAGES FOR SURE ARE F UCKED UP
i see ppl here speaking that if we have problems to go to npsoft. and some others like to compare official with private my answer to them are u blind or what ?
the true is that ic bow need nerf for sure why becouse is not working as it should be ,cmon
why u change the buffslot? WTF was that , we dont need a pvp server if we ned a pvp server we can go to arena. go to previus buff bar
blizzard yes nerfed it as hell make it to have 20% who cares mages are using blizard only to slow enemy but now that buffs is ussels when u are ussing windwalk song of wind even with blizard u can run from mages and they cant come to u and not to mentetion that if mage is using blizard is caching u still he will not do anything since after 1-2 arrows he will be donw. ;D . and i am mage and i have see it many times.
and mostly take a look at server see how many mages u can see ? and how many fighters , the answer is u can see much more fighters becouse there is no balance in server with chars,.
and something more i see here people that came from dragon in nightmare server months ago or year and crying that in dragon evrything was sh1t . unfair blablalba and now u are makeing all those things that others make to you guys on dragon u are makeing them to nightmare ppl. and in every post u answering them with irony and sh1ts , WTF is that ? why u have to answer with sh1ts why u have to be rude ?
but saying that there are Gms friends msn that they saying what to nerf and what not , are totally sh1ts that is the only thing for sure ,
You are completly wrong.
First - IC bow doesnt need nerf.
I have sps/ee and archer char, and I will tell you that mages arent that weak at all.
Blizzard work on warriors (not only) perfectly, and its very usefull, especially if u will use it with block ww, then archer can do shit with running.
IF you have a good mage party, then u can beat warriors using all the possible curses etc, but if you play alone then no wonder that you will die in 1-2 hits. And the best option is to have 2 parties warrior one supported by mages, who can cast cancels/banes/curses.
correct me if im wrong.
huuhuhuh i wont be here when attributes will be added in few days xD
And counter dash/rapidshot stuff xD
We gonna have a ocean of salty tears ;<
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 12:25:36 PM
tomek with all my respect to u,thats quite bullshit imo.
with the old buff system and with my old archer gear i somehow dont remember a fullbuffed mage with ~top gear getting more than 2,3k crits(i aint talking about mage/tank subs),while on the other hand when vortex/surrender/gloom was on me i was hitting the flour quite easily with 3x3k mcrits in 2 sec...
also FOI has nothing to do with tanks...
ps : by "old" system i refer to the late IL
Well the insane mage crit era was crap offcourse, i always said that mage crit rate should be caped at 20% and things would be much better... And with FOI i ment SOF offcourse >.<
Quote from: NIORI on September 14, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
MAGES FOR SURE ARE F UCKED UP
i see ppl here speaking that if we have problems to go to npsoft. and some others like to compare official with private my answer to them are u blind or what ?
the true is that ic bow need nerf for sure why becouse is not working as it should be ,cmon
why u change the buffslot? WTF was that , we dont need a pvp server if we ned a pvp server we can go to arena. go to previus buff bar
blizzard yes nerfed it as hell make it to have 20% who cares mages are using blizard only to slow enemy but now that buffs is ussels when u are ussing windwalk song of wind even with blizard u can run from mages and they cant come to u and not to mentetion that if mage is using blizard is caching u still he will not do anything since after 1-2 arrows he will be donw. ;D . and i am mage and i have see it many times.
and mostly take a look at server see how many mages u can see ? and how many fighters , the answer is u can see much more fighters becouse there is no balance in server with chars,.
and something more i see here people that came from dragon in nightmare server months ago or year and crying that in dragon evrything was sh1t . unfair blablalba and now u are makeing all those things that others make to you guys on dragon u are makeing them to nightmare ppl. and in every post u answering them with irony and sh1ts , WTF is that ? why u have to answer with sh1ts why u have to be rude ?
but saying that there are Gms friends msn that they saying what to nerf and what not , are totally sh1ts that is the only thing for sure ,
yea niori they got dk's in ass on dragon x15 i was on dragon x15 and watch them all time :D
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 11:24:28 PM
When i nerfed celestial shield?
I need nerf cause Nitopami told me?
Is only NP "op with archers" or its same on all servers?Let me guess CB have all other gms on msn?
I didnt say ill erase ur chars i said ill just erase ur posts in every topic that u paste this nonsense.
I didnt ignore any1 since i replyed is it?
It means if i OP now mages , it means i am fair?
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HATER SPOTED !
Quote from: Deavon on September 14, 2009, 01:59:52 PM
huuhuhuh i wont be here when attributes will be added in few days xD
And counter dash/rapidshot stuff xD
We gonna have a ocean of salty tears ;<
I can't wait having those as well :P
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 02:00:14 PM
And with FOI i ment SOF offcourse >.<
then whats wrong with sof?20 sec ud for the whole pt while every1 can move,well its far from being as annoying as FOI,but its again all up to managing ur pt...
Quote from: Deavon on September 14, 2009, 01:59:52 PM
huuhuhuh i wont be here when attributes will be added in few days xD
And counter dash/rapidshot stuff xD
We gonna have a ocean of salty tears ;<
now thats really going pwn :D
Quote from: munman on September 14, 2009, 02:22:02 AM
Here xxxBuBrEkxxx mr.idiot no one is not makeing chars to say nothing QQ
ahahahahahha altheo agil lowskilled YEAH RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !
dude u re the worst sps ee of NM alltogether with vicious and bigromfresh ffs !!
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
I have 1 Transfer pain 2 , arcanapower, and 3 wildmagic agument buff, 3 slots are gone from the first second.
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Quote from: our4n0s on September 14, 2009, 02:26:45 PM
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lol xD
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 14, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
QQ ***s check Deathand's movie :D the last 30 sec and u'll got your answer whats overpowered, archers or tank subbed mages.
what about tank subbed mage hero uh? no big deal to survive '30 sec' being an hero is it now? add tank's passiv and toogles...
Quote from: our4n0s on September 14, 2009, 02:32:43 PM
what about tank subbed mage hero uh? no big deal to survive '30 sec' being an hero is it now? add tank's passiv and toogles...
i have to add here that he survived like 30 minutes ,but i could nt add all this silly scene to main movie xD
Quote from: our4n0s on September 14, 2009, 02:26:45 PM
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As i wrote before when there is no more slots for bafs becouse my last slots are always wm augument and tp, and yes TP is not working if is lost , tested on dmg and cursed man have same hp. no dmg transfered
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
As i wrote before when there is no more slots for bafs becouse my last slots are always wm augument and tp, and yes TP is not working if is lost , tested on dmg and cursed man have same hp. no dmg transfered
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Quote from: our4n0s on September 14, 2009, 02:38:06 PM
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Quote from: Deavon on September 14, 2009, 02:36:25 PM
i have to add here that he survived like 30 minutes ,but i could nt add all this silly scene to main movie xD
i just wanted to show mark's post was meaningless.
tank/bp survives archer quite well, but first funkeh got some heal from a mate too, second he has hero features : hero weap ( ftw), hero statu ( clan skills) etc.
To take down such BP u better have mage which leaves 1 more point being mage so... nerf them to archers? oh come on
lol, funny topic.
Icarus should be better than Draconic Bow anyway, but the re-use is a bit stupid (not as official for sure), I'd say let it be Normal Atk speed and fix the re-use a bit, or add some sort of new SA to Icarus called QR, so you can choose between focus or a faster re-use.
And mages don't suck, but mages should learn to play together... People play all mages just to nuko and kill enemies, how stupid can you get? Necro's are debuffers, not nukers, if you're smart you have the Necro as Main Assist in party and let the necro Curse gloom the enemies, than let other mages surrender and nuke it to death, wanna bet you do major dmg like that?
NERF WHOLE NM AND ALL CHARS!!! xD
Quote from: Furesy on September 14, 2009, 03:04:25 PM
lol, funny topic.
Icarus should be better than Draconic Bow anyway, but the re-use is a bit stupid (not as official for sure), I'd say let it be Normal Atk speed and fix the re-use a bit, or add some sort of new SA to Icarus called QR, so you can choose between focus or a faster re-use.
And mages don't suck, but mages should learn to play together... People play all mages just to nuko and kill enemies, how stupid can you get? Necro's are debuffers, not nukers, if you're smart you have the Necro as Main Assist in party and let the necro Curse gloom the enemies, than let other mages surrender and nuke it to death, wanna bet you do major dmg like that?
Like ya played ur necro/ee like that or with that purpose :P
Even tho it was interlude back then, i'm pretty sure ya wouldn't have played ur necro/ee if it wasnt a dmg dealer xD.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 14, 2009, 03:39:16 PM
Like ya played ur necro/ee like that or with that purpose :P
Even tho it was interlude back then, i'm pretty sure ya wouldn't have played ur necro/ee if it wasnt a dmg dealer xD.
I played the Necro/EE for a bet someone did with me, and I won that bet :p
And ye, I didn't play my Necro/EE like that because I played solo, but I never cried about archers critting me high, or because I couldn't kill someone who stacked on dark resists. (because I could kill them anyway)
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
then whats wrong with sof?20 sec ud for the whole pt while every1 can move,well its far from being as annoying as FOI,but its again all up to managing ur pt...now thats really going pwn :D
Dude, if you have 5-6 tanks in party witch isn't even hard to make, you can have 2 minutes of walking UD. And now your gonna tell me you need to be pro to tell your mates whos gonna click the magic button first, second,... or pro to reroll and make a tank sub char that the party needs? Not to mention that you can reuse SOF every 15 minutes or even less.
Its good that NM people are to lazy to reroll to tank subs cuz if they wouldn't be you would realize that fighting against each other, doing 100 damage for 2 minutes is retarded, but such pvp mostly screws up daggers and mages since they use lots of mana while archers don't. But offcourse you dont see this since your an archer.
Try to be a little objective and you will see the big picture ;)
Tbh, you use shitloads of Mana with the re-use of Icarus bow, your outta mana before you know it :D
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 04:11:17 PM
Dude, if you have 5-6 tanks in party witch isn't even hard to make, you can have 2 minutes of walking UD. And now your gonna tell me you need to be pro to tell your mates whos gonna click the magic button first, second,... or pro to reroll and make a tank sub char that the party needs? Not to mention that you can reuse SOF every 15 minutes or even less.
Its good that NM people are to lazy to reroll to tank subs cuz if they wouldn't be you would realize that fighting against each other, doing 100 damage for 2 minutes is retarded, but such pvp mostly screws up daggers and mages since they use lots of mana while archers don't. But offcourse you dont see this since your an archer.
Try to be a little objective and you will see the big picture ;)
another bullshit of ur side tomek.
1st of i aint an archer for a certain period of time,i am even 1 of those that need mana a lot-daggerist.i know how does the picture look like and i know that having a pt of tanks isnt pro,BUT u forget a single fact,ok since we have that new buffs system every archer/bd,sws has problem with the mana,since there r plenty of songs/dances that must be kept on also i see archers using more skills than before therefore they r facing a mana problem themselves aswell,ofc times lesser problems than a mage or a dagger.and also what if the fights last longer than before?isnt this what we wanted?not a pt of 5 mages with 99% crit rate show boom boom and then gf...
@ the bigger number of tanks in a pt: .thats up to the clans/allies,its not pro to be the 6th tank in ur pt and to do sof when its ur turn,but lol even so whats the problem with that?when u r out there by ur 8mates vs 2 or more parties from 2 different allies which hit u from both sides,i think u would rather having more defensive type of chars,no?
because all the nerfs are based on olympiad anyway, no archer is over-powered in oly, in fact they are still too weak, icarus bows should be boosted more!
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 04:46:15 PM
I couldnt really find out what the bullshit of my side was tbh...
Anyways, your telling me that 2 partys with 5k+pdef/mdef for 2 minutes with almost all buffs you need doing 200 dammage on each other or less feels like a really great pvp to you? Having 20 seconds of sof is cool, nothing wrong with it since this is how its on official, but 2 minutes of the shit is just too much.
Same goes for fullbuffs, imo it should be that way that your buffed strong against some enemys and weak against the others and not strong against almost everyone.
Sure i dont want pvps with 100% crit rate and archers criting for 5k+ and i dont know why you even mention that since i never said i want that, but pvps like this are almost as stupid as the era of few minutes of FOI from temps...
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 04:11:17 PM
Dude, if you have 5-6 tanks in party witch isn't even hard to make, you can have 2 minutes of walking UD. And now your gonna tell me you need to be pro to tell your mates whos gonna click the magic button first, second,... or pro to reroll and make a tank sub char that the party needs? Not to mention that you can reuse SOF every 15 minutes or even less.
Its good that NM people are to lazy to reroll to tank subs cuz if they wouldn't be you would realize that fighting against each other, doing 100 damage for 2 minutes is retarded, but such pvp mostly screws up daggers and mages since they use lots of mana while archers don't. But offcourse you dont see this since your an archer.
Try to be a little objective and you will see the big picture ;)
1. Try nuking with an icarus bow for 2 mins straight and then tell me archers don't have mana probleems, especially if you are an SR or have a bd or sws sub. I have been in an rb party with viana before when she had to stop nuking for a while becouse of this exact reason.
2. Its not hard to make a party with 5-6 tanks... maybe not, but then it isn't hard for our enemies to do the exact same thing is it. And you say people are to lazy to reroll to tank subs, I see both Overdose annd TEMP failing @ bp/pal or bp/tk or bp/sk trying to be like cobra or kid.
3. Re-use on SOF for an archer on fullbuff is more like 7 mins, I've been in pvp when the reuse has been finished for a second time before the pvp has ended (Maybe you remember when it was 5 CB vs 2pt Overcry in HB), this proves that SOF does exactly what it should, help lengthen PVP's.
4. Why do people cry so much these days? As an archer the days of me putting 5k on a mage every crit are gone, but then so is the huge m.crit rate, and now archers can actually use the resist buffs. TBH I don't care that im not 2 hitting mages anymore (except Ary and Wahka who will always be 2 hit frags) because they can't do the same to me and the overall PvP is longer and requirse more skills.
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Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 05:17:56 PM
I couldnt really find out what the bullshit of my side was tbh...
Anyways, your telling me that 2 partys with 5k+pdef/mdef for 2 minutes with almost all buffs you need doing 200 dammage on each other or less feels like a really great pvp to you? Having 20 seconds of sof is cool, nothing wrong with it since this is how its on official, but 2 minutes of the shit is just too much.
Same goes for fullbuffs, imo it should be that way that your buffed strong against some enemys and weak against the others and not strong against almost everyone.
Sure i dont want pvps with 100% crit rate and archers criting for 5k+ and i dont know why you even mention that since i never said i want that, but pvps like this are almost as stupid as the era of few minutes of FOI from temps...
i've never seen 2 mins sof,but yea i could call it fun,for that time no1 will do any dmg to me,and in the end i will go and lethal the other's healer,swich the resser,if i manage and there goes,for me thats gonna be fun.
the bullshit part u had in the previous post was that u said archers dont need mana,alas they do.
foi cant be put anywhere close to sof imo.since i cant think of a situation a pt will have 6 tanks,even CB that has plenty of tanks.
Quote from: Furesy on September 14, 2009, 04:40:06 PM
Tbh, you use shitloads of Mana with the re-use of Icarus bow, your outta mana before you know it :D
yea...and when ure sws/dancer it sux more ! XD
What happened with a point of topic,..... :( CB mi frendzors curuption etc.... ???
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than. sof makes the pvp longer, but mages suffer cuz of it since what the freak can they do in the 2 minutes you have sof? And the 2 minutes sof can come up every 6-7 minutes. And even without sof mages have a hard time in pvp cuz the dammage they do is just too small and they run out of mana too fast.
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
i've never seen 2 mins sof,but yea i could call it fun,for that time no1 will do any dmg to me,and in the end i will go and lethal the other's healer,swich the resser,if i manage and there goes,for me thats gonna be fun.
the bullshit part u had in the previous post was that u said archers dont need mana,alas they do.
foi cant be put anywhere close to sof imo.since i cant think of a situation a pt will have 6 tanks,even CB that has plenty of tanks.
1 bd/archer 1 sws/archer 1 wc/warlock and rest of em can have tank subs. So thats 2 minutes with 6-7 minutes of reuse. Yea i see you have a fun class for that but what can a mage do again? ;)
Anyways the funny thing is, that even if mages would suck even much more than now, lots of guys here would still talk that they dont suck and talk about how much more buffslots archers need and how mages can heal and use curses... Yeh, mages will heal and curse untill you drop dead.
Quote from: Deavon on September 13, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
ITS NOT OUR PROBLEM IF YOU CANT BUFF UR SELF PROPERLY.
+1 ! case closed!!
hahahah +1
Just try sws/mage or even pp/necro against archer/tank with same buffs to see who powns who, and even if the archer pwons he won't have much hp left...
STop noobish QQ!
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than.
try NOT to nuke when someone has sof lol, nowadays almost every party got a bp/tank so thats not so hard to survive few sofs
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
1 bd/archer 1 sws/archer 1 wc/warlock and rest of em can have tank subs. So thats 2 minutes with 6-7 minutes of reuse. Yea i see you have a fun class for that but what can a mage do again? ;)
Anyways the funny thing is, that even if mages would suck even much more than now, lots of guys here would still talk that they dont suck and talk about how much more buffslots archers need and how mages can heal and use curses... Yeh, mages will heal and curse untill you drop dead.
tomek,the chances of getting 6 tanks in a pt is quite low,think about it.its possible for sure,but lol...
about mages, i can tell ya that even i,a tank get plenty of dmg,when a mage uses debuffs...
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
tomek,the chances of getting 6 tanks in a pt is quite low,think about it.its possible for sure,but lol...
about mages, i can tell ya that even i,a tank get plenty of dmg,when a mage uses debuffs...
Yea i know, but i guess you have always like 4-5 of em right? That's already more than enough. The point of this thread was that mages suck to much currently compared to fighters, not if mages do any dammage, sure they do some. And sof is just another thing that makes the mages suffer more than everyone else.
I wont even comment the retarded comments of mbz and the 50 cents guy ::)
Quote from: TrackZero on September 14, 2009, 06:13:21 PM
What happened with a point of topic,..... :( CB mi frendzors curuption etc.... ???
Mi GM frend! Mi hes GM itenz!
Oh mi gosh! This topic is like made for meh! :o
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than. sof makes the pvp longer, but mages suffer cuz of it since what the freak can they do in the 2 minutes you have sof? And the 2 minutes sof can come up every 6-7 minutes. And even without sof mages have a hard time in pvp cuz the dammage they do is just too small and they run out of mana too fast.
1 bd/archer 1 sws/archer 1 wc/warlock and rest of em can have tank subs. So thats 2 minutes with 6-7 minutes of reuse. Yea i see you have a fun class for that but what can a mage do again? ;)
Anyways the funny thing is, that even if mages would suck even much more than now, lots of guys here would still talk that they dont suck and talk about how much more buffslots archers need and how mages can heal and use curses... Yeh, mages will heal and curse untill you drop dead.
You seem to be under the illusion that only fighters may use SOF lol. And as it has been said.. just don't nuke em, run away or some shit like that lol or, an even better idea, when your opponants have 2 mins of SOF come to the forum and make a quick QQ topic then when you come back SOF will be done.
Quote from: TrackZero on September 14, 2009, 06:13:21 PM
What happened with a point of topic,..... :( CB mi frendzors curuption etc.... ???
Imagine their reaction if they knew that you gave all of CB edited base stats ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Zuluman on September 14, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Imagine their reaction if they knew that you gave all of CB edited base stats ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
like my 5k casting speed : ((
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
I wont even comment the retarded comments of mbz and the 50 cents guy ::)
cobra and his comment are far from being retarded,since there are some things that u could do while the enemy pt is under sof.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
Yea i know, but i guess you have always like 4-5 of em right?
if we have 4-5 tanks online i am sure there wont be 1 pt to be filled with them,but there're going to be 2 pts with 2xSof.simple isnt it?
Quote from: Zuluman on September 14, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
Zomg, dude if you cant understand a simple post i make than dont replay. I never said mages cant use it, i said mages have a disadvantage when it comes to the 2 minutes sof. And i mentioned sof just cuz its imo boring to fight that way. You offcourse dont look at it the same way since your an archer and a member of such a sof party and you feel pro that you can kill a few more people than your group has just cuz you have more tanks in your party. (sure CB has some skilled players, but most of the succes is based on having tanks and a good bishop) ::)
And you dont need to talk about making qq topics since your the one making retarded topics, so stfu please.
Quote from: Endorama on September 14, 2009, 10:04:21 PM
cobra and his comment are far from being retarded,since there are some things that u could do while the enemy pt is under sof.
Yea i guess mages should than just stand still, run away or spam cancel as wind suggested.
As i said before, its not about sof, its about mages being to weak. Sof just makes em have another disadvantage.
And sof just like foi should be something that you can use like once every 15 minutes and for 20 seconds in my opinion, not every 7 minutes for 1-2 minutes. The skill is just too powerfull and pvps depend too much on them and not on tactics and skill like in the past. Having 20 seconds more UD just makes too much of a difference in pvp.
The story goes on and on with the overpowered things. Just like temps abused foi and we all talked about how stupid the skill is and that it makes too much of a difference in pvp and has nothing to do with "skills". Temps offcourse didnt think foi is stupid, but if bouth sides would make few more Ols and organize that way that we would be bouth standing still looking at each other with foi on for a minute or more they would probably see that the skill really is stupid. Or the time with 100% crit rate where lots of mages said the server is balanced while it wasnt since i was killing more than 5 people on my own without a problem.
The only real reason why i dont like the thing with spamming sof is that it makes too much of a difference in pvp.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 10:25:11 PM
Zomg, dude if you cant understand a simple post i make than dont replay. I never said mages cant use it, i said mages have a disadvantage when it comes to the 2 minutes sof. And i mentioned sof just cuz its imo boring to fight that way. You offcourse dont look at it the same way since your an archer and a member of such a sof party and you feel pro that you can kill a few more people than your group has just cuz you have more tanks in your party. (sure CB has some skilled players, but most of the succes is based on having tanks and a good bishop) ::)
And you dont need to talk about making qq topics since your the one making retarded topics, so stfu please.Yea i guess mages should than just stand still, run away or spam cancel as wind suggested.
As i said before, its not about sof, its about mages being to weak. Sof just makes em have another disadvantage.
And sof just like foi should be something that you can use like once every 15 minutes and for 20 seconds in my opinion, not every 7 minutes for 1-2 minutes. The skill is just too powerfull and pvps depend too much on them and not on tactics and skill like in the past. Having 20 seconds more UD just makes too much of a difference in pvp.
clue the freak up, even standing still (of course there are plenty of other options lol) is better than wasting your mp on a target with 5k (or even more, i cant remember) mdef and most likely resist buffs, but dont worry matey, someday you are gonna understand what lineage is about
Quote from: mbz on September 14, 2009, 11:00:18 PM
clue the freak up, even standing still (of course there are plenty of other options lol) is better than wasting your mp on a target with 5k (or even more, i cant remember) mdef and most likely resist buffs, but dont worry matey, someday you are gonna understand what lineage is about
Where did you saw me saying that i attack people who have sof on or that mages should attack people with sof? Thats right, i didnt. Learn to read and understand.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 11:15:20 PM
Where did you saw me saying that i attack people who have sof on or that mages should attack people with sof? Thats right, i didnt. Learn to read and understand.
then explain me please what makes u think that sof disadvantages mages, archers cant do much when a mage pt is on sof cause they got almost no debuffs, not mentioning cancel or aura flash
Quote from: mbz on September 14, 2009, 11:27:01 PM
then explain me please what makes u think that sof disadvantages mages, archers cant do much when a mage pt is on sof cause they got almost no debuffs, not mentioning cancel or aura flash
Well compared to mages, they can still attack and do some damage without using much mana. Mages cant really use curses since they wont land anything on people with 5k mdef and cant attack since its a waste of mana. But yea the difference might not be really big... And as far as i remember i had 13 minutes reuse on sof on full buffs, while archers apparently have less. Well im not really sure about this thing.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than.
aahahahahha i thought exactly the same XD
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than.
Difference is im not stupid enough to stand their and nuke someone with 5k m.def whilst playing a mage so QQ more please.
there is one thing that's true tho, i wanna see a good mage pt that knows something about teamplay, reacharges, banes etc with
tk/ee ; ee/es ; ne/pal ; bp/wc ; bp/tk or pal ; sps/tk ; bd/se ; pp;/ne; sws/ee.
But such mages knowing about teamplay are rare on NM, and will definitely not be gathered in the same pt
Quote from: our4n0s on September 15, 2009, 01:26:58 AM
there is one thing that's true tho, i wanna see a good mage pt that knows something about teamplay, reacharges, banes etc with
tk/ee ; ee/es ; ne/pal ; bp/wc ; bp/tk or pal ; sps/tk ; bd/se ; pp;/ne; sws/ee.
But such mages knowing about teamplay are rare on NM, and will definitely not be gathered in the same pt
Thas true, even the simple teamwork you don't see. The number of EE,PP,SE mages I see that do not ress their party members is ridiculous. The ability to quickly ress and noble party members SHOULD be a big advantage verses archers.
People these days just wanna play and nuke someone to death in 2-3 hit as has been proven in this post already though.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 15, 2009, 12:28:47 AM
Difference is im not stupid enough to stand their and nuke someone with 5k m.def whilst playing a mage so QQ more please.
Oh god, your posts make no sence. Where did you saw me saying im nuking people with 5k m.def. You dont even understand some simple sentences i posted. As i said before just stop posting cuz spamming stuff like "qq more" is pretty dumb when it comes from you since your the one doing all those retarded topics on the forum, while im not even playing and dont really give a shit if Track will boost or nerf the mages/archers. ;)
Quote from: TrackZero on September 14, 2009, 06:13:21 PM
What happened with a point of topic,..... :( CB mi frendzors curuption etc.... ???
You should be happy ::)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 14, 2009, 06:17:27 PM
Oh god zulu, now try nuking for 2 minutes with a mage and lets talk about the mana problems than.
worse when they mana burn you, then u cant even nuke for those 2 mins
Quote from: TheLox on September 14, 2009, 08:49:47 PM
Mi GM frend! Mi hes GM itenz!
Oh mi gosh! This topic is like made for meh! :o
go study!
Quote from: Zuluman on September 15, 2009, 02:36:45 AM
Thas true, even the simple teamwork you don't see. The number of EE,PP,SE mages I see that do not ress their party members is ridiculous. The ability to quickly ress and noble party members SHOULD be a big advantage verses archers.
People these days just wanna play and nuke someone to death in 2-3 hit as has been proven in this post already though.
yeah the pt i mentioned would probably roll anything, but currently there is like 4 clan with good mages and you will find the needed players in like 2 per each of these clans >.<
tk/ee : rebel, no other aim than a safe recharge that will for sure keep most of his mp and resist archer.
ee/es : weak point is no self skill against archer, but PT ud / hero features should balance it, and es's pet buff worth it, so Laymedown, main goal would be mana burn.
ne/pal : i don't know many, but ins is overall good so that's fine, as a debuffer/baner.
bp/wc : ready to magnus any moment to win teh speed (second part), + cop etc, many good on NM tbh.
bp/tk or pal : targetmeimbishop, cuz funkeh will be taken by cb's archer pt :>
sps/tk : only know tomek, main, not to say only mission, at the first part of pvp would be blizard / cancels (to prepare second part = kill the kiting !)
bd/se : besides the buffs, recharge / mana burn / bladedance / freenzing at 2nd part: definitely not ensign which is way too much offensive, lbotdancer? xd
pp;/ne : lucifsg or voudas banes/debuffs
sws/ee : i would take spash or fure on LE, mana burn / recharge.
considering first part of pvp as mana left on BP => second part = kill the kiting !
with each tank using his pt ud in time :)
That vs CB's archer's pt ! who's up !
Quote from: our4n0s on September 15, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
yeah the pt i mentioned would probably roll anything, but currently there is like 4 clan with good mages and you will find the needed players in like 2 per each of these clans >.<
tk/ee : rebel, no other aim than a safe recharge that will for sure keep most of his mp and resist archer.
ee/es : weak point is no self skill against archer, but PT ud / hero features should balance it, and es's pet buff worth it, so Laymedown, main goal would be mana burn.
ne/pal : i don't know many, but ins is overall good so that's fine, as a debuffer/baner.
bp/wc : ready to magnus any moment to win teh speed, + cop etc, many good on NM tbh.
bp/tk or pal : targetmeimbishop, cuz funkeh will be taken by cb's archer pt :>
sps/tk : only know tomek, main, not to say only mission, at the first part of pvp would be blizard / cancels (to prepare second part = kill the kiting !)
bd/se : besides the buffs, recharge / mana burn : definitely not ensign which is way too much offensive, lbotdancer? xd
pp;/ne : lucifsg or voudas banes/debuffs
sws/ee : i would take spash or fure on LE, mana burn / recharge.
considering first part of pvp as mana left on BP
That vs CB's archer's pt ! who's up !
no chance imo .
Quote from: our4n0s on September 15, 2009, 02:09:50 PM
yeah the pt i mentioned would probably roll anything, but currently there is like 4 clan with good mages and you will find the needed players in like 2 per each of these clans >.<
tk/ee : rebel, no other aim than a safe recharge that will for sure keep most of his mp and resist archer.
ee/es : weak point is no self skill against archer, but PT ud / hero features should balance it, and es's pet buff worth it, so Laymedown, main goal would be mana burn.
ne/pal : i don't know many, but ins is overall good so that's fine, as a debuffer/baner.
bp/wc : ready to magnus any moment to win teh speed (second part), + cop etc, many good on NM tbh.
bp/tk or pal : targetmeimbishop, cuz funkeh will be taken by cb's archer pt :>
sps/tk : only know tomek, main, not to say only mission, at the first part of pvp would be blizard / cancels (to prepare second part = kill the kiting !)
bd/se : besides the buffs, recharge / mana burn / bladedance : definitely not ensign which is way too much offensive, lbotdancer? xd
pp;/ne : lucifsg or voudas banes/debuffs
sws/ee : i would take spash or fure on LE, mana burn / recharge.
considering first part of pvp as mana left on BP
with each tank using his pt ud in time :)
That vs CB's archer's pt ! who's up !
It would sure be fun to try it out... (sign me in, but after thursday when im done with the last exam xD)
Quote from: TrackZero on September 13, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
Sticky ;D?
Hell Yea :D
Quote from: Herza on September 15, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
You should be happy ::)
worse when they mana burn you, then u cant even nuke for those 2 mins
go study!
i like tweety !
Quote from: Deavon on September 15, 2009, 02:21:16 PM
no chance imo .
with 6 supports - 2 of them BP and 4 f them rechargers+healers, 5 of them have deflect arrow and good mana regen guess it will be long fight, even with 3 dmg dealers mages can pwn ::)
but dmgers must be with different attributes - i mean not only sps and necro, coz it will be too easy to get few resists
Quote from: Marinella on September 15, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
with 6 supports - 2 of them BP and 4 f them rechargers+healers, 5 of them have deflect arrow and good mana regen guess it will be long fight, even with 3 dmg dealers mages can pwn ::)
but dmgers must be with different attributes - i mean not only sps and necro, coz it will be too easy to get few resists
we can try it for like 200 coins bet !!! =O
Tbh, this discussion between archers and mages is funny, both chars got advantages and disadvantages (with the DN sub system than).
Funny is when you read mages whine about archers range, while ever since HB the range of archers has been bugged, Archery doesn't give range anymore and the range of arrows is bugged, sometimes you need to run back to 600 range to even shoot your first arrow, kiting came close to impossible because any normal archer (without icarus) shoots 1 arrow during kiting and the mage nukes him 3 times (with icarus it's 1 arrow and 2 nukes).
It's also great to have blizzard landed on you before you even flag, after that you can basically do jackshit unless you have a bishop with you, or when you do flag against a few mages, having 3 different vortexes landed on you. Maybe I also shouldn't forget that the resist against mage attacks are bugged? The elemental damage ones seem to work fine, but Holy damage resists don't work how they supposed too, you can stack up on Holy resists and still get nuked for 1k and pretty much every third hit a nice 4k on you.
Mages whining about archers having more run speed is bullshit also, PoWater is a normal prophecy, not an all-in-one which they are supposed to use, try use magnus vs archers and they will 100% be on CoV, you'll be able to keep up with an archer that uses dash.
Of course everyone also only looks to archers with Icarus bow, those who don't have one are basically out of the picture now, doesn't really bother me though. Icarus isn't how it's supposed to be (re-use being way to fast) but well, what is on this server? Debuffs that decrease run speed aren't supposed to stack, they do here. Vortex effect isn't supposed to stack, they do here. Archers range isn't supposed be capped (or even bugged) but it is here. (funny still people whine about 'archers range', while mages have constant 900 range with nukes, because nukes aren't effected by surroundings, area and elevation they are in, while archers attacks are, and that is what is bugged)
People only yell nerf this, nerf that, I wonder when people start to see it's actually fix this, fix that.
we can, but i dont have enough coins :P to give if (it may be, i never 100%sure) archers win
Quote from: Marinella on September 15, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
with 6 supports - 2 of them BP and 4 f them rechargers+healers, 5 of them have deflect arrow and good mana regen guess it will be long fight, even with 3 dmg dealers mages can pwn ::)
but dmgers must be with different attributes - i mean not only sps and necro, coz it will be too easy to get few resists
tbh its more about guard stance and shield fortress, recahrgers were needed to use these toogles etc... then, well, layme has stone = only elemental attributes, uthria has prom = fire, sps has holy and water, necro has dark... guess its not bad, but nukes ll be the spam f1 parts, easy one, the pvp will be over by then imo = part 3 !
Im sorry.... This is the first time I haven't read every word in a topic before i post.
But i've been offline for 3 days due to forum IP moving stuff and you guys have spammed 15 pages >.<
Well anywhoo. Don't see how one of the most well geared players on this server can say that CB is sponsored by Track.
Remember how you used to stand at varkaspawn fullbuffed with your armada of bots and laughing at archers cause you had 100% m.crit? All of a sudden it's possible to get resistance buffs and you're gonna cry!?
And not only normal cries, but completely irrelevant bullshit taken out of thin air. I've played on this server since day 3 and i got track's msn... guess what my gear is? Am+a+4, baium+zaken, and a donated Dnet set. Sounds a bit poor for someone who's in the clan of the allmighty GM friends?
Actually most of our members probably have even less.
just look at wind, the only way he gets adena is by renting out he's seraphim pony to a donkey show in Tijuana. Cthon who is one of the most active members/leader of our clan was running around in Draco set just a few weeks back.
We are all lazy and poor.... But atleast we know how to play.
@Messalina if you really are from norway; Hvordan i helvete kan du ha så rævva engelsk? Aldrig møtt noen herfra under 65 som ikke kan skrive førståelig engelsk.
just FYI there was a HB event on 15x, gm organized, mages vs archers (=only mass rez works)
archers all had icarus and dyna, mages all had dyna and am (not icarus)
that was the final match, both side were mostly respected players, mage party won without rly lose more than CP.
game took like 2 full minutes (=a small while)
half allies rerolled to mages as well
this should give you a hint about what is overpowered between archers and mages atm xD
Quote from: our4n0s on September 15, 2009, 04:34:27 PM
tbh its more about guard stance and shield fortress, recahrgers were needed to use these toogles etc... then, well, layme has stone = only elemental attributes, uthria has prom = fire, sps has holy and water, necro has dark... guess its not bad, but nukes ll be the spam f1 parts, easy one, the pvp will be over by then imo = part 3 !
ah i forgot u got stone and i bet erth guard will not be used in such pvp
Quote from: kidicarus on September 15, 2009, 04:54:19 PM
Remember how you used to stand at varkaspawn fullbuffed with your armada of bots and laughing at archers cause you had 100% m.crit? All of a sudden it's possible to get resistance buffs and you're gonna cry!?
yeah messa forgot about that times when he did only nuke-m.crit nuke-m.crit nuke-m.crit "haha u noob mi pro" and flaaged only on ppl who already fighting with some1
Quote from: kidicarus on September 15, 2009, 04:54:19 PM
Im sorry.... This is the first time I haven't read every word in a topic before i post.
But i've been offline for 3 days due to forum IP moving stuff and you guys have spammed 15 pages >.<
Well anywhoo. Don't see how one of the most well geared players on this server can say that CB is sponsored by Track.
Remember how you used to stand at varkaspawn fullbuffed with your armada of bots and laughing at archers cause you had 100% m.crit? All of a sudden it's possible to get resistance buffs and you're gonna cry!?
And not only normal cries, but completely irrelevant bullshit taken out of thin air. I've played on this server since day 3 and i got track's msn... guess what my gear is? Am+a+4, baium+zaken, and a donated Dnet set. Sounds a bit poor for someone who's in the clan of the allmighty GM friends?
Actually most of our members probably have even less.
just look at wind, the only way he gets adena is by renting out he's seraphim pony to a donkey show in Tijuana. Cthon who is one of the most active members/leader of our clan was running around in Draco set just a few weeks back.
We are all lazy and poor.... But atleast we know how to play.
@Messalina if you really are from norway; Hvordan i helvete kan du ha så rævva engelsk? Aldrig møtt noen herfra under 65 som ikke kan skrive førståelig engelsk.
I did not ask archers to be nerf, I just dont want anymore freaking nerfs on me or other mage from my party, blizard it was a way to slowdown a archer !
I havent been on-line for 2 days in game..and i am rly considering to start Aion.
Quote from: Marinella on September 15, 2009, 05:13:55 PM
yeah messa forgot about that times when he did only nuke-m.crit nuke-m.crit nuke-m.crit "haha u noob mi pro" and flaaged only on ppl who already fighting with some1
I just loooooool...
Never im my l2 life i didnt wrote "noob" except one time to voudas cuz greeks are special enemys .Even when i did errors in pvp and lost i always write in my party" we did it well guys" and when i drink quite a few glasses of wine i stil dont use words like you moust .
100% crit rate it was for few days....
Quote from: kidicarus on September 15, 2009, 04:54:19 PM
just look at wind, the only way he gets adena is by renting out he's seraphim pony to a donkey show in Tijuana.
:D :D :D :D poor wind :P
Quote from: kidicarus on September 15, 2009, 04:54:19 PM
just look at wind, the only way he gets adena is by renting out he's seraphim pony to a donkey show in Tijuana.
ROFL!!! thx mate, that made my evening ;D ;D ;D
wind, dude what's ur price to rent me ur penisunicorn ? xD
Quote from: Takashii on September 15, 2009, 08:24:32 PM
wind, dude what's ur price to rent me ur penisunicorn ? xD
lol, i'm being whored here!!!! :-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: NYPD on September 15, 2009, 07:22:48 PM
I just loooooool...
Never im my l2 life i didnt wrote "noob" except one time to voudas cuz greeks are special enemys .Even when i did errors in pvp and lost i always write in my party" we did it well guys" and when i drink quite a few glasses of wine i stil dont use words like you moust .
100% crit rate it was for few days....
oh yeah stop lie messa :D
Quote from: klepa on September 15, 2009, 08:51:54 PM
oh yeah stop lie messa :D
You can tell me whatever u want but i never use this word" noob"
Maybe i said "low dmg " or "thats all u can" and that was just to make u flag.
Quote from: kang on September 15, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
just FYI there was a HB event on 15x, gm organized, mages vs archers (=only mass rez works)
archers all had icarus and dyna, mages all had dyna and am (not icarus)
that was the final match, both side were mostly respected players, mage party won without rly lose more than CP.
game took like 2 full minutes (=a small while)
half allies rerolled to mages as well
this should give you a hint about what is overpowered between archers and mages atm xD
That was newMDK though :p
And one of them AM's was an am+a+24 :P But yea I saw it and the mages pawned, but in the archers defense it was in the colliseum and they didn't have alot of room to kite. But I agree with you, well skilled mages can more than match archers.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 15, 2009, 11:14:59 PM
But I agree with you, well skilled mages can more than match archers.
:>
wind he dont have u on his mind :D <j/k>
Archers are F1 + run back + auto cp chars... so if u have good gear ofc > mages.
But I think it is necessary to make some changes to better balance the pvps like a:
- Decrease the cooldown time of mana. (10 sec i think is good cooldown)
- Put Shirt A for sell in Donny like a bracelet.
- GIVE SEAL OF BLOCKADE before lvl 80 with some nerfs.
- Increase chance for all debuffs.
- Increase enchant sucess in mage weapons :D
... 8)
Quote from: leobruno on September 15, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
Archers are F1 + run back + auto cp chars... so if u have good gear ofc > mages.
But I think it is necessary to make some changes to better balance the pvps like a:
- Decrease the cooldown time of mana. (10 sec i think is good cooldown)
- Put Shirt A for sell in Donny like a bracelet.
- GIVE SEAL OF BLOCKADE before lvl 80 with some nerfs.
- Increase chance for all debuffs.
- Increase enchant sucess in mage weapons :D
... 8)
Yes defenetly more starwars weapons that's just what we need to balance the server! loool
Quote from: leobruno on September 15, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
- Increase enchant sucess in mage weapons :D
... 8)
that's just gona help rich mages, one more shit to make gear influe more than skills, gg.
Quote from: Furesy on September 15, 2009, 03:41:09 PM
I just fullbuffed myself so i had 5000 m.attack and thats my max (with arcane power, am+7) and did solar spark on my other char doing:
1208 when he had no holy ressist buffs (only pow+warding+m.barrier) but with bad jewels (1462 m.def)
906 with unholy protection added (+25% ressist) -> buged, should add 5% more ressist
634 with Devine protection added (+30% ressist)
444 with dance of aligment added.(+30% ressist)
So i really dont know how you can get 1k dammage when you stack up ressist buffs and you also probably have more m.def on fullbuffs than i had with this char. Anyways solar flare has a longer reuse delay as other nukes so it cant really be spammed. And as you said about everyone looking at archers having icarus bow... Its the same thing how people think that every mage has 40% crit rate, while they dont.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
I just fullbuffed myself so i had 5000 m.attack and thats my max (with arcane power, am+7) and did solar spark on my other char doing:
1208 when he had no holy ressist buffs (only pow+warding+m.barrier) but with bad jewels (1462 m.def)
906 with unholy protection added (+25% ressist) -> buged, should add 5% more ressist
634 with Devine protection added (+30% ressist)
444 with dance of aligment added.(+30% ressist)
So i really dont know how you can get 1k dammage when you stack up ressist buffs and you also probably have more m.def on fullbuffs than i had with this char. Anyways solar flare has a longer reuse delay as other nukes so it cant really be spammed. And as you said about everyone looking at archers having icarus bow... Its the same thing how people think that every mage has 40% crit rate, while they dont.
And now try it during regular pvp x) when both parties are fullbuffed, you'll notice the only mage hitting you for 4k / 5k magic crits are sps/ee's in general, and no those aren't water attacks :)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
I just fullbuffed myself so i had 5000 m.attack and thats my max (with arcane power, am+7) and did solar spark on my other char doing:
1208 when he had no holy ressist buffs (only pow+warding+m.barrier) but with bad jewels (1462 m.def)
906 with unholy protection added (+25% ressist) -> buged, should add 5% more ressist
634 with Devine protection added (+30% ressist)
444 with dance of aligment added.(+30% ressist)
So i really dont know how you can get 1k dammage when you stack up ressist buffs and you also probably have more m.def on fullbuffs than i had with this char. Anyways solar flare has a longer reuse delay as other nukes so it cant really be spammed. And as you said about everyone looking at archers having icarus bow... Its the same thing how people think that every mage has 40% crit rate, while they dont.
Now try doing the same with all archer resists, I think you will see similar.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 16, 2009, 01:09:30 AM
Now try doing the same with all archer resists, I think you will see similar.
Yes but archer have 500 crit rate .. consumes less mana... more hp/cp ... and can get more cp pot in the bag. So ?
The truth is, the most donators are archer, if archer become die they come here and cry (or cry on msn fro track :D), and if track dont do nothing they leave this server... if they leave how track will pay the host and others stuffs ?
The only hope we have is open topics and try bring some ideias for balance classes and pray for track read and do something about. 8 :-\
Quote from: TrackZero on September 14, 2009, 06:13:21 PM
What happened with a point of topic,..... :( CB mi frendzors curuption etc.... ???
lier.... u have my msn and im from temp :P this mean temp are friend gm too ahhaha
QQ Messalina xD
ps: since i have track on my msn like 4 month or more i never get free item im still poor so stop talk about corruption ecc track is the only fair gm i see here in 5 years here...
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
I just fullbuffed myself so i had 5000 m.attack and thats my max (with arcane power, am+7) and did solar spark on my other char doing:
1208 when he had no holy ressist buffs (only pow+warding+m.barrier) but with bad jewels (1462 m.def)
906 with unholy protection added (+25% ressist) -> buged, should add 5% more ressist
634 with Devine protection added (+30% ressist)
444 with dance of aligment added.(+30% ressist)
So i really dont know how you can get 1k dammage when you stack up ressist buffs and you also probably have more m.def on fullbuffs than i had with this char. Anyways solar flare has a longer reuse delay as other nukes so it cant really be spammed. And as you said about everyone looking at archers having icarus bow... Its the same thing how people think that every mage has 40% crit rate, while they dont.
Ya forgot to add a vortex to the enemy, damn sure ur dmg would be nicer :P.
Quote from: leobruno on September 16, 2009, 01:26:40 AM
Yes but archer have 500 crit rate .. consumes less mana... more hp/cp ... and can get more cp pot in the bag. So ?
The truth is, the most donators are archer, if archer become die they come here and cry (or cry on msn fro track :D), and if track dont do nothing they leave this server... if they leave how track will pay the host and others stuffs ?
The only hope we have is open topics and try bring some ideias for balance classes and pray for track read and do something about. 8 :-\
So what 500 crit rate? i've seen and experienced enough that even with 500 crit rate a archer can make 6 non-crits in a row pretty often...
Consumes less mana... n/c on that one
More hp/cp, depends on what. I think a bishop or smth could have more HP then a Silver ranger, + many archers play with - 4 / 5 con (it's their choice but still i dont think the hp/cp difference is allot, really depends on what sub ya have). And not to forget mages have the ability's to heal themself and archers dont. And can archers use debuffs ?
More cp pots in the bag? JIPPIE.... a archer can have like 50 more cp pots in the bag then a mage! Like i said before most archers are -4/5 con wich decreases the ammount of your weigh limit... And most mages are +4 con. And so what if we have a bit more, since HB we can carry like 200 greater CP pots and 200 smaller ones. Maybe that's even much (ofc depends on howmany SS , pots etc etc you have in your inven). And be honest like most mages can handle spamming CP pots aswell... gimme a brake
All just complain because since HB archers have more buffslots for resistance buffs wich fck the mages up ofc, but yesterday a member from the clan i'm in(carebears), fully loaded archer and every buff he could possibly want was making 1k crits on a sps/ee. It's all about buffing vs archers aswell and dont let a archer Crit ya from the back, correct me if i'm wrong but shield defence rate from the front is way better. And playing without zerk could be a possiblity aswell (dunno if many people play with it or without xD).
That most archers have Icarus weapon doesnt mean each and every archer is a donator... Although i must say it's like normal now a archer has icarus bow... i dont get it where they all came from all of a sudden. People i've never seen before are walking with icarus haha, and track saying donations are going bad... hard to believe...
Too make a long story short... Add a f*fcking Tank sub if you care about archer dmging you to much. You cant have everything ya know... Ofcourse it would be nice doing 1k dmg normal hits , 2k c speed, having self heals, 50% m crit rate, archers critting you for 700 max and all of ur debuffs with 100% landing rate...
Now if you have a basic dmg dealing mage, tell me wich sub could increase your m atk to cause more dmg? NONE. You got the fcking choice to add a healer, buffer or choose to go for a defensive way...
Quote from: Furesy on September 15, 2009, 11:49:17 pmAnd now try it during regular pvp x) when both parties are fullbuffed, you'll notice the only mage hitting you for 4k / 5k magic crits are sps/ee's in general, and no those aren't water attacks
Thats a non atribute attack that has a long reuse delay and does like 1k dammage on a normal hit so you have to be pretty lucky to do a crit on it. And not only sps have it, also sorcerer and spellhowler
Quote from: FadeAway on Yesterday at 08:20:30 amYa forgot to add a vortex to the enemy, damn sure ur dmg would be nicer .
Yea i tryed doing vortex but it landed like 1 out of 10 trys (and it adds 30% dammage when vortex landed)... Maybe i was just really unlucky but if i wasnt than i cant imagine landing the vortex on someone with more than 1500 m.def. Anyways nowdays debuffs are kinda hard to land when everyone is fullbuffed like that. Also banes like block ww, block shield dont land since everyone is using those improve buffs that cant be removed, talking about mass pvps here.
Oh can any archer be so friendly and post what buffs does he normally uses during a siege, cuz im really curius if they really need so much more buffslots than mages
Quote from: leobruno on September 16, 2009, 01:26:40 AM
Yes but archer have 500 crit rate .. consumes less mana... more hp/cp ... and can get more cp pot in the bag. So ?
The truth is, the most donators are archer, if archer become die they come here and cry (or cry on msn fro track :D), and if track dont do nothing they leave this server... if they leave how track will pay the host and others stuffs ?
The only hope we have is open topics and try bring some ideias for balance classes and pray for track read and do something about. 8 :-\
Fade already answered most of your points, and TBH it seems that all you stupid mages think that all an archer does is hunt mages. Not every pvp on the server is archer vs mage, we also have to fight each other but I guess you wouldn't know that. Its not all about damn mages. And 500 crit rate means you have a 50% chance to crit, there are still mages with similar m.crit rates which is ridiculous when you consider the nature of a magical crit.
That is unless you are an archer in CB, we all have 800 crit rates :P
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:26:44 PM
Yea i tryed doing vortex but it landed like 1 out of 10 trys (and it adds 30% dammage when vortex landed)... Maybe i was just really unlucky but if i wasnt than i cant imagine landing the vortex on someone with more than 1500 m.def. Anyways nowdays debuffs are kinda hard to land when everyone is fullbuffed like that. Also banes like block ww, block shield dont land since everyone is using those improve buffs that cant be removed, talking about mass pvps here.
All I can say to that is bullshit, I played SPS/EE with dc robe set, am+a+4 and dc robe set, without any of my boss jewls and witch tats. I could still land trance, cancel, vortexes, surrenders on temp archers with fullbuff in dynasty with icarus bows and prolly boss jewls, all my skils are +0. Its just a matter of using skills and knowing which debuffs to us in which order.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 16, 2009, 12:32:53 PM
Fade already answered most of your points, and TBH it seems that all you stupid mages think that all an archer does is hunt mages. Not every pvp on the server is archer vs mage, we also have to fight each other but I guess you wouldn't know that. Its not all about damn mages. And 500 crit rate means you have a 50% chance to crit, there are still mages with similar m.crit rates which is ridiculous when you consider the nature of a magical crit.
That is unless you are an archer in CB, we all have 800 crit rates :P
quote author=TomekAlmighty link=topic=200337.msg2007245#msg2007245 date=1253096804]
Yea i tryed doing vortex but it landed like 1 out of 10 trys (and it adds 30% dammage when vortex landed)... Maybe i was just really unlucky but if i wasnt than i cant imagine landing the vortex on someone with more than 1500 m.def. Anyways nowdays debuffs are kinda hard to land when everyone is fullbuffed like that. Also banes like block ww, block shield dont land since everyone is using those improve buffs that cant be removed, talking about mass pvps here.
All I can say to that is bullshit, I played SPS/EE with dc robe set, am+a+4 and dc robe set, without any of my boss jewls and witch tats. I could still land trance, cancel, vortexes, surrenders on temp archers with fullbuff in dynasty with icarus bows and prolly boss jewls, all my skils are +0. Its just a matter of using skills and knowing which debuffs to us in which order.
u pro temp noob xD
Quote from: Zuluman on September 16, 2009, 12:32:53 PM
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All I can say to that is bullshit, I played SPS/EE with dc robe set, am+a+4 and dc robe set, without any of my boss jewls and witch tats. I could still land trance, cancel, vortexes, surrenders on temp archers with fullbuff in dynasty with icarus bows and prolly boss jewls, all my skils are +0. Its just a matter of using skills and knowing which debuffs to us in which order.
I'm not really a Tomek's fan, but i can just lol at your replies against him. You aren't replying in a cconstructive way, you're just trying to prove your fake superior L2 knowledge...At least on NM server, Tomek >>> many like you (when we're talking about mages).
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:29:15 AM
906 with unholy protection added (+25% ressist) -> buged, should add 5% more ressist
u mean oly protection added, or what?
Quote from: Zuluman on September 16, 2009, 12:32:53 PM
All I can say to that is bullshit, I played SPS/EE with dc robe set, am+a+4 and dc robe set, without any of my boss jewls and witch tats. I could still land trance, cancel, vortexes, surrenders on temp archers with fullbuff in dynasty with icarus bows and prolly boss jewls, all my skils are +0. Its just a matter of using skills and knowing which debuffs to us in which order.
Oh rofl, your teaching me how to use debuffs properly. Dude stop talking smack. I usually go and test things before saying something like i mentioned above.
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 16, 2009, 12:40:46 PM
I'm not really a Tomek's fan, but i can just lol at your replies against him. You aren't replying in a cconstructive way, you're just trying to prove your fake superior L2 knowledge...At least on NM server, Tomek >>> many like you (when we're talking about mages).
Thnx, non Tomek fan, couldnt say it better :P
Quote from: our4n0s on September 16, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
u mean oly protection added, or what?
holy protection added to the prewius listed buffs (warding, pow, m.barrier). I did a mistake and said unholy >.<
Quote from: FadeAway on September 16, 2009, 09:45:13 AM
Too make a long story short... Add a f*fcking Tank sub if you care about archer dmging you to much. You cant have everything ya know... Ofcourse it would be nice doing 1k dmg normal hits , 2k c speed, having self heals, 50% m crit rate, archers critting you for 700 max and all of ur debuffs with 100% landing rate...
Now if you have a basic dmg dealing mage, tell me wich sub could increase your m atk to cause more dmg? NONE. You got the fcking choice to add a healer, buffer or choose to go for a defensive way...
i disagree with a good part of the rest, but a big +1 here !
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 12:26:44 PM
Yea i tryed doing vortex but it landed like 1 out of 10 trys (and it adds 30% dammage when vortex landed)... Maybe i was just really unlucky but if i wasnt than i cant imagine landing the vortex on someone with more than 1500 m.def. Anyways nowdays debuffs are kinda hard to land when everyone is fullbuffed like that. Also banes like block ww, block shield dont land since everyone is using those improve buffs that cant be removed, talking about mass pvps here.
Debuffs not landing? That's complete bullshit :) Debuffs land just as much as they used too, and Improve buffs can be removed lol
Quote from: Furesy on September 16, 2009, 01:05:58 PM
Debuffs not landing? That's complete bullshit :) Debuffs land just as much as they used too, and Improve buffs can be removed lol
I really didnt try it out so im not sure about that but dn wiki says this:
T1plus - Shield 3 + Might 3 in 1 buff. Lasts 40 mins. Cannot be overwrite with Shield/Might.
Block Shield/Mass Block shield cannot cancel this buff.
T1+ - Wind Walk 2 + Agility 3 in 1 buff. Lasts 40 mins. Cannot overwrite except with this buff itself.
Block Wind Walk/Mass Block Wind Walk/Warrior Bane/Mass Warrior Bane cannot cancel this buff.
Well i really couldnt land light vortex on my char while he had 1500 m.def.. I will test some more debuffs and the vortex again tomorrow or in the next days so ill see if i was just really unlucky yesterday.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 16, 2009, 01:36:46 PM
I really didnt try it out so im not sure about that but dn wiki says this:
T1plus - Shield 3 + Might 3 in 1 buff. Lasts 40 mins. Cannot be overwrite with Shield/Might.
Block Shield/Mass Block shield cannot cancel this buff.
T1+ - Wind Walk 2 + Agility 3 in 1 buff. Lasts 40 mins. Cannot overwrite except with this buff itself.
Block Wind Walk/Mass Block Wind Walk/Warrior Bane/Mass Warrior Bane cannot cancel this buff.
Well i really couldnt land light vortex on my char while he had 1500 m.def.. I will test some more debuffs and the vortex again tomorrow or in the next days so ill see if i was just really unlucky yesterday.
Dont Bother ppl !
ITS DRAKE'S PLAY GROUND !No Offence !
Some body can tell me official notice about magic critic rate ? What is the max actually?
This is topic about who is sponsored by Track! Yuhu! Not some mage pt vs archer pt cause it ain't gonna happen.
Quote from: Herza on September 15, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
go study!
:-*
I'm not GM friend, I'm TrackZero.
Quote from: Furesy on September 16, 2009, 08:18:01 PM
I'm not GM friend, I'm TrackZero.
You are TrackZero's left ball. :D
Quote from: TheLox on September 16, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
You are TrackZero's left ball. :D
Than you must be the hair that needs to be shaved!
Quote from: Furesy on September 16, 2009, 08:22:28 PM
Than you must be the hair that needs to be shaved!
No, I am right ball. Your twin bro. Hair is DemonsFall.
Quote from: TheLox on September 16, 2009, 08:31:01 PM
No, I am right ball. Your twin bro. Hair is DemonsFall.
and i'm the Penis!
i give track "dk cam" every night ... and I never get any items ... sup with that ?! ... no items no dk !!!!!
=))))))))) ROTFLMAO
Quote from: tzuc on September 16, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
i give track "dk cam" every night ... and I never get any items ... sup with that ?! ... no items no dk !!!!!
=))))))))) ROTFLMAO
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa +1
Quote from: tzuc on September 16, 2009, 11:12:54 PM
i give track "dk cam" every night ... and I never get any items ... sup with that ?! ... no items no dk !!!!!
=))))))))) ROTFLMAO
da un pm pe msn... nu te prind deloc
QuoteOh can any archer be so friendly and post what buffs does he normally uses during a siege, cuz im really curius if they really need so much more buffslots than mages :P
I see people are too lazy so ill try myself...
Improve Critical Lv.1
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Might Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory
Cat buff
Combat Haste Pot
P.attack potion
Rapid fire
What else do you buff yourself with?
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:14:01 PM
I see people are too lazy so ill try myself...
Improve Critical Lv.1
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Might Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory
Cat buff
Combat Haste Pot
P.attack potion
Rapid fire
What else do you buff yourself with?
add chant of spirit or arcana protection
and that self buff for arrow reuse rapid shot
Quote from: Marinella on September 17, 2009, 12:18:15 PM
add chant of spirit or arcana protection
and that self buff for arrow reuse rapid shot
Yea i thought its called rapid fire xD
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 17, 2009, 12:22:25 PM
Dance : Concentration, Warrior, Fury , Fire
Songs : Wind, Hunter, Vitality, Warding, Earth, Aqua, Windstorm, Elemental
Ok thnx
So actually mages need as much buff slots as fighters... So talking about different ammouth of buffs that they need is kinda bs.
Wild Magic lvl 3
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Shield Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory / magnus
Clarity
Acumen
M.attack potion
Combat haste
Arcane protection
+dances / songs
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:14:01 PM
I see people are too lazy so ill try myself...
Improve Critical Lv.1
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Might Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory
Cat buff
Combat Haste Pot
P.attack potion
Rapid fire
What else do you buff yourself with?
imp movement sux since bans delating that buff so ur loosing evasion and ww so better to have evasion chant+ww, also add blessing of sagitarius, guildance, and dont use imp magic> same situation like with imp movement. Unholy rpot is not rly needed if u have divine.
Quote from: Sali on September 17, 2009, 12:34:53 PM
imp movement sux since bans delating that buff so ur loosing evasion and ww so better to have evasion chant+ww, also add blessing of sagitarius, guildance, and dont use imp magic> same situation like with imp movement. Unholy rpot is not rly needed if u have divine.
Thnx, didnt know about banes removing improve buffs, thought they dont cuz on dn wiki says they cant be removed...
So you have than 20 buffs without unholy prot. 1 spot for mana pots, 1 spot of sof/ud...
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:46:52 PM
Thnx, didnt know about banes removing improve buffs, thought they dont cuz on dn wiki says they cant be removed...
So you have than 20 buffs without unholy prot. 1 spot for mana pots, 1 spot of sof/ud...
and 1 for dash :P
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:14:01 PM
I see people are too lazy so ill try myself...
Improve Critical Lv.1
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Might Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory
Cat buff
Combat Haste Pot
P.attack potion
Rapid fire
What else do you buff yourself with?
You forgot P/M.Def pot (I think maybe you did for mages also), also depending on class.
Pr, will need a slot for Deadeye
Sr, can't remember the name of the skill but it akes em shoot faster.
Wk, Transfer pain
Pal, Phoenix soul, deflect arrow, majesty (Ud?s)
I won't list evey archer sub, but i think when adding up the buffs, you should add 2-3 buffs for class based skills. Every archer sub has atleast one extra.
As sali said Dash is a definate.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:27:40 PM
Yea i thought its called rapid fire xD
I think rapid fire may be the SR skill I was refering too.
Also things like valor, or foi and SOF can knock buffs off for both mages +fighters.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 17, 2009, 01:12:17 PM
You forgot P/M.Def pot (I think maybe you did for mages also), also depending on class.
Pr, will need a slot for Deadeye
Sr, can't remember the name of the skill but it akes em shoot faster.
Wk, Transfer pain
Pal, Phoenix soul, deflect arrow, majesty (Ud?s)
I won't list evey archer sub, but i think when adding up the buffs, you should add 2-3 buffs for class based skills. Every archer sub has atleast one extra.
As sali said Dash is a definate.
Rapid Shot, Blessing of Saggitarius, War Cry, Duelist Spirit, Dash, Sonic Move, it¨s also cool to keep free slot for UE... not mentioning augments :p
Warlock doesn't need slot for TP because toggles are not eating your buffslots :)
Quote from: Zuluman on September 17, 2009, 01:12:17 PM
You forgot P/M.Def pot (I think maybe you did for mages also), also depending on class.
Pr, will need a slot for Deadeye
Sr, can't remember the name of the skill but it akes em shoot faster.
Wk, Transfer pain
Pal, Phoenix soul, deflect arrow, majesty (Ud?s)
I won't list evey archer sub, but i think when adding up the buffs, you should add 2-3 buffs for class based skills. Every archer sub has atleast one extra.
As sali said Dash is a definate.
+ Angelic icon + shield defense buff + TouchOfLife + war cry (in my case) + physical mirror (in some situations) + lionheart + duelist spirit (in my case again) + sonic move (in my case aswell). So if anyone should cry, it would be me :p
Quote from: FadeAway on September 17, 2009, 01:18:31 PM
+ Angelic icon + shield defense buff + TouchOfLife + war cry (in my case) + physical mirror (in some situations) + lionheart + duelist spirit (in my case again) + sonic move (in my case aswell). So if anyone should cry, it would be me :p
Its for archers :P so i didn't bother with shielld defense buffs. But yes pal needs AI, TOL for sure.
Adefinate as said b4 is UE for any archer in light.
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
So actually mages need as much buff slots as fighters... So talking about different ammouth of buffs that they need is kinda bs.
Wild Magic lvl 3
Improve Magic Lv.1
Improve Movement Lv.1
Improve Condition Lv.1
Improve Combat Lv.1
Holy Resistance Lv. 3
Unholy Resistance Lv. 3
Divine Protection
Elemental Protection
Greater Shield Lv. 3
Nobless
Chant of Protection
Chant of victory / magnus
Clarity
Acumen
M.attack potion
Combat haste
Arcane protection
+dances / songs
Excuse me but i know holy and divine protection decreases the dmg of dark attacks, but wtf does unholy resistance do? aint it giving resistance to sacred attack or smth? Always have like a useless buff for me. Arcane protection seems a bit useless for me aswell but that's a opinion (it's like imma buff myself with weight limit buff so i can carry more CP pots in pvp and i can spam it!!!!)
And let's say the pvp situation is a pt of mages vs a pt of fighters.
1. Mages would need conc+mystic+siren and maybe storm dance thingy while fighters would need fire+furry+warrior+conc+aqua+resistance song
2. Mages would need earth+ vit+ renewal + song vs archers (cant remember the name), while fighters need warding+vit+renewal+hunter+all resistance songs + wind (is optional).
So with songs and dances only, fighters got like pretty much more buffslots used total...
same for mages:
def arrow/regen pot/ some spicific buff like emp echo, seed of fire/wind/aqua, blazing skin sometimes/ ud/ prayer/salvation/
ah well if it's gonna be like that!
Kiss of eva, incase the pvp finds place under water! :o
Invigor, incase some mage does sting! :o
Regeneration, fast hp recovery FTW! :o
Dance of light, so we can kill undead summons faster! :o
Holy weapon, another pwnz0r buff to kill undead summons faster! :o
Vampiric rage, so close range fighter can get some hp back when hitting! :o
Resist shock, incase a necro/warlord fly's by! :o
Clarity for close range fighters! :o
Decrease weight, so archer can more CP pots and can spam it longah! :o
Did i forget something :-\ ?
Quote from: FadeAway on September 17, 2009, 01:51:28 PM
ah well if it's gonna be like that!
Kiss of eva, incase the pvp finds place under water! :o
Invigor, incase some mage does sting! :o
Regeneration, fast hp recovery FTW! :o
Dance of light, so we can kill undead summons faster! :o
Holy weapon, another pwnz0r buff to kill undead summons faster! :o
Vampiric rage, so close range fighter can get some hp back when hitting! :o
Resist shock, incase a necro/warlord fly's by! :o
Clarity for close range fighters! :o
Decrease weight, so archer can more CP pots and can spam it longah! :o
Did i forget something :-\ ?
Dance of Protection! If you fell out of a cliff in varka..
Quote from: Marinella on September 17, 2009, 01:40:08 PM
same for mages:
def arrow/regen pot/ some spicific buff like emp echo, seed of fire/wind/aqua, blazing skin sometimes/ ud/ prayer/salvation/
Lol blazing skin.
PS. They are right..... Fighters are dependant on more buffs then mages. Ofcourse you could get the same amount of buffs for both, but talking out of my own experience i'd say a fighter uses more slots then mages.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 17, 2009, 01:32:04 PM
Excuse me but i know holy and divine protection decreases the dmg of dark attacks, but wtf does unholy resistance do? aint it giving resistance to sacred attack or smth? Always have like a useless buff for me. Arcane protection seems a bit useless for me aswell but that's a opinion (it's like imma buff myself with weight limit buff so i can carry more CP pots in pvp and i can spam it!!!!)
And let's say the pvp situation is a pt of mages vs a pt of fighters.
1. Mages would need conc+mystic+siren and maybe storm dance thingy while fighters would need fire+furry+warrior+conc+aqua+resistance song
2. Mages would need earth+ vit+ renewal + song vs archers (cant remember the name), while fighters need warding+vit+renewal+hunter+all resistance songs + wind (is optional).
So with songs and dances only, fighters got like pretty much more buffslots used total...
Unholy is against dark attacks, holy is against attacks like solar flare, light vortex so its not that useless. Arcane protection seems useless to me too but someone else added it as an buff he uses...
Oh forgot to say that mages need also advanced Block shield...
My selfbuffs:: Ud, valor, tol, magical mirror, iron shield, deflect arrow
Quote from: Ashlynn on September 17, 2009, 02:10:43 PM
Dance of Protection! If you fell out of a cliff in varka..
ah yeah.. how could i forget that one! thanks for the backup! ::)
Quote from: kidicarus on September 17, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
Lol blazing skin.
PS. They are right..... Fighters are dependant on more buffs then mages. Ofcourse you could get the same amount of buffs for both, but talking out of my own experience i'd say a fighter uses more slots then mages.
agree, we kinda should compare the buffs that are really needed... like you said mages can get the same ammount, but most buffs would be just for the luxery and aint high priority as the ones fighters need.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 17, 2009, 01:32:04 PM
Excuse me but i know holy and divine protection decreases the dmg of dark attacks, but wtf does unholy resistance do? aint it giving resistance to sacred attack or smth? Always have like a useless buff for me. Arcane protection seems a bit useless for me aswell but that's a opinion (it's like imma buff myself with weight limit buff so i can carry more CP pots in pvp and i can spam it!!!!)
And let's say the pvp situation is a pt of mages vs a pt of fighters.
1. Mages would need conc+mystic+siren and maybe storm dance thingy while fighters would need fire+furry+warrior+conc+aqua+resistance song
2. Mages would need earth+ vit+ renewal + song vs archers (cant remember the name), while fighters need warding+vit+renewal+hunter+all resistance songs + wind (is optional).
So with songs and dances only, fighters got like pretty much more buffslots used total...
arc protection can be used during sieges against OL debuffs
also mages dances is conc+mystic+siren+aligment and sometimes in sieges danse of bladestorm for 15 sec`s
about sons allways using erth+wit+ward+renev+elemental+windstorm+ wind+ meditation if its long pvp
Quote from: kidicarus on September 17, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
Lol blazing skin.
PS. They are right..... Fighters are dependant on more buffs then mages. Ofcourse you could get the same amount of buffs for both, but talking out of my own experience i'd say a fighter uses more slots then mages.
The difference is like 1 or 2 buffs, depending on the class you have ... Just make yourself a list of buffs that are really needed for bouth archers and mages and you will see ;)
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 02:20:12 PM
Unholy is against dark attacks, holy is against attacks like solar flare, light vortex so its not that useless. Arcane protection seems useless to me too but someone else added it as an buff he uses...
Oh forgot to say that mages need also advanced Block shield...
My selfbuffs:: Ud, valor, tol, magical mirror, iron shield, deflect arrow
Does this work properly now?
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 17, 2009, 02:38:05 PM
The difference is like 1 or 2 buffs, depending on the class you have ... Just make yourself a list of buffs that are really needed for bouth archers and mages and you will see ;)
Archers hitting you on anything except fullbuffs = Noobalicious
Mages on bd/se = Kinda ok!
My point is that in a siege situation with FULL buffs, you will have the same amount, but thats mainly cause mages stack a few more resistance buffs. For mage/mage chars (not with a tank sub like us Tomek cause i know we got a bunch of selfbuffs that makes us pretty much equal to fighters.) you can fight properly with less buffs then a fighter.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 17, 2009, 01:12:17 PM
Wk, Transfer pain
lol'd
goes with :
Quote from: NYPD on September 14, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
I have 1 Transfer pain 2 , arcanapower, and 3 wildmagic agument buff, 3 slots are gone from the first second.
Quote from: kidicarus on September 17, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
Archers hitting you on anything except fullbuffs = Noobalicious
Mages on bd/se = Kinda ok!
Yea but too bad times when you could enjoy pvp with only pp buffs or bd/se are long gone :-\
mages > archers ;) with right buffs i think mages have chances to win archers
the sh1t nowdays is that ica bow has more atk speed than db/sb and that makes the difference between archers and mages
why Mr Track dont change icarus hall to give smth like 20-25% cast speed? sounds fair to me ::)
yeaaaa Why ?
Quote from: Mohit0 on September 17, 2009, 11:47:39 PM
mages > archers ;) with right buffs i think mages have chances to win archers
the sh1t nowdays is that ica bow has more atk speed than db/sb and that makes the difference between archers and mages
why Mr Track dont change icarus hall to give smth like 20-25% cast speed? sounds fair to me ::)
Better make a resistance effect on the icarus hall like 20% resistance vs archers... atleast other classes wouldn't suffer under that c speed boost...
Quote from: Mohit0 on September 17, 2009, 11:47:39 PM
mages > archers ;) with right buffs i think mages have chances to win archers
the sh1t nowdays is that ica bow has more atk speed than db/sb and that makes the difference between archers and mages
why Mr Track dont change icarus hall to give smth like 20-25% cast speed? sounds fair to me ::)
i m sry but mages got already BOOSTED on m.attack during pvp.
I think mages got super enough casting speed already ,many of them reaching 2,5k .
Correct me if i m wrong .
Quote from: Deavon on September 18, 2009, 01:34:09 AM
I think mages got super enough casting speed already ,many of them reaching 2,5k .
only xx/es and they not to much in nowdays.
The point is, 1x1 mages can kick the archer asses... but in mass pvps with party ud in both sides i think archers > mages... but whatever, i think its balanced with a bit more for archers.
EE's can reach 2,4k c speed already
WK's can reach like 2,5k ?
ES's can reach like almost 3k...
Anyway from 2,5k c speed on, i think blessed soulshots wouldnt load fast enough to make full effect.
So tbh getting more c speed would be useless, u'll just run outta mana even faster xD.
mi wanna cry too, u fuking mages and archers both of u are op fags!!!!!!
what with daggers? nerf them moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Mages are crying bout low dmg:O? look at my dmg in pvp, mostly is less then 100 in mass pvp, and lethal land rate is low as hell (i think we should nerf it more coz daggers can win somtimes in oly :P)
And about mana, hmm u r talking bout 2 mins of nuking and u r out of mana. try fight with dagger in mass pvp (with toogles that u need to do smth ), even with clarity u r w/o mana in 30 seconds...
so at end mages and archers are op!!!!!
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 08:54:52 AM
EE's can reach 2,4k c speed already
with malaria bro :P on full buff + combat i reach 2.2k c.spd not 2.5 :P
Quote from: bakoo on September 18, 2009, 09:34:47 AM
mi wanna cry too, u fuking mages and archers both of u are op fags!!!!!!
what with daggers? nerf them moarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Mages are crying bout low dmg:O? look at my dmg in pvp, mostly is less then 100 in mass pvp, and lethal land rate is low as hell (i think we should nerf it more coz daggers can win somtimes in oly :P)
And about mana, hmm u r talking bout 2 mins of nuking and u r out of mana. try fight with dagger in mass pvp (with toogles that u need to do smth ), even with clarity u r w/o mana in 30 seconds...
so at end mages and archers are op!!!!!
+111111111111111 xD at least ur playing with your dagger and you are doing good job proving that you can go pvp with such char, unlike draks who says that dagger on pvp = no way (only for oly) so he plays with archer... ::)
(dont flame me!! )
and agree with jygh about cast - 2.2k
Who the hell uses malaria?
Anyways i can reach only 1800 casting
Quote from: jygh on September 18, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
with malaria bro :P on full buff + combat i reach 2.2k c.spd not 2.5 :P
And why not use malaria :o? it takes few mins to take that buff, dont ya'll mages wanna get more c speed menz? well that's the way to get it.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 10:08:13 AM
And why not use malaria :o? it takes few mins to take that buff, dont ya'll mages wanna get more c speed menz? well that's the way to get it.
Cuz you get like 2 other buffs with it ;)
jajajjaaja
With malaria and all the other shits: ~3.1k casting.
When i'll reach level 84-85 and OE some casting passives: 3.5 - 3.7k
Quote from: TomekAlmighty on September 18, 2009, 11:00:23 AM
Cuz you get like 2 other buffs with it ;)
Nah that's BS if ya know how... Amazed ya dont even know how :o.
Lemme explain, as long the unwanted effects dont reach lvl 2 or higher, you can remove them by the colored water places.
So for example you bring a mob to the water place, let it use it debuffs on you.
First you get malaria, then you get the 2nd malaria, then you get some unwanted debuff - sleep it ASAP so they cant get lv 2 effect - stand in the water so it get's removed - and continue. Ya prolly think now malaria get's removed aswell... but aslong as it reach lvl 2 or higher the next time u'll get malaria again it will continue from the lvl 2... so like that it's pretty easy to reach lvl 4 malaria without getting any kind of other debuffs. ;)
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 18, 2009, 11:05:42 AM
jajajjaaja
With malaria and all the other shits: ~3.1k casting.
When i'll reach level 84-85 and OE some casting passives: 3.5 - 3.7k
Damn we'll have to wait like 6 month's to see that then :P.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
Nah that's BS if ya know how... Amazed ya dont even know how :o.
Lemme explain, as long the unwanted effects dont reach lvl 2 or higher, you can remove them by the colored water places.
So for example you bring a mob to the water place, let it use it debuffs on you.
First you get malaria, then you get the 2nd malaria, then you get some unwanted debuff - sleep it ASAP so they cant get lv 2 effect - stand in the water so it get's removed - and continue. Ya prolly think now malaria get's removed aswell... but aslong as it reach lvl 2 or higher the next time u'll get malaria again it will continue from the lvl 2... so like that it's pretty easy to reach lvl 4 malaria without getting any kind of other debuffs. ;)
Love your enthusiasm..... But you forgot 1 thing though. Cleanse removes those "debuffs" meaning that it is useless in a mass PvP if you have an active bishop in your pt.
Quote from: kidicarus on September 18, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
Love your enthusiasm..... But you forgot 1 thing though. Cleanse removes those "debuffs" meaning that it is useless in a mass PvP if you have an active bishop in your pt.
fck bishops, solo rambo actions ftw :P
Check ur inbox btw.
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 11:10:19 AM
Damn we'll have to wait like 6 month's to see that then :P.
xD
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 08:54:52 AM
EE's can reach 2,4k c speed already
WK's can reach like 2,5k ?
ES's can reach like almost 3k...
moreeeeeeeee !
on es i can reach 4k (hero zerk doesn't add very much btw)
but i will never do it for pvp since its just the most annoying shit !
Quote from: seboulba on September 18, 2009, 12:19:56 PM
tyr/de in HB 84-85 in 5-6h :D
You think a guy that has a poster of a pony above his bed got any friends with a tyr/de? :-X
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
You think a guy that has a poster of a pony above his bed got any friends with a tyr/de? :-X
rofl, so true :)
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
You think a guy that has a poster of a pony above his bed got any friends with a tyr/de? :-X
;D
Quote from: Herza on September 18, 2009, 09:50:30 AM
+111111111111111 xD at least ur playing with your dagger and you are doing good job proving that you can go pvp with such char, unlike draks who says that dagger on pvp = no way (only for oly) so he plays with archer... ::)
(dont flame me!! )
woot about me? xD
Quote from: FadeAway on September 18, 2009, 12:26:40 PM
You think a guy that has a poster of a pony above his bed got any friends with a tyr/de? :-X
i have the account of a tyr/de, why would i need another one?
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 18, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
i have the account of a tyr/de, why would i need another one?
got no sense of humour when it's about your pony !
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 18, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
i have the account of a tyr/de, why would i need another one?
u r noob with ty/de :P
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 18, 2009, 10:49:20 PM
true : <>.>
in alot of l2 servers u can make trains with Aura Flash + heals xD
which is way faster than desto trains ;D
Quote from: XForCE on September 19, 2009, 01:47:54 AM
in alot of l2 servers u can make trains with Aura Flash + heals xD
which is way faster than desto trains ;D
I seen Necro's making pawnage trains on NM with Vampiric and corpse burst and a BP healing it.
Quote from: Zuluman on September 19, 2009, 02:03:10 AM
I seen Necro's making pawnage trains on NM with Vampiric and corpse burst and a BP healing it.
Mass surrender to water + diamond dust + aqua splash trains ftw.
Still, the golden ages of Elemental summoners doing trains ended with c3, back then we used to clean up places like LOA or Cruma with Unicorn Merrow and its hydroblast :x
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 19, 2009, 02:35:56 AM
Mass surrender to water + diamond dust + aqua splash trains ftw.
Still, the golden ages of Elemental summoners doing trains ended with c3, back then we used to clean up places like LOA or Cruma with Unicorn Merrow and its hydroblast :x
yea , i heared about it :)
the ages when summons where stronger than normal players .
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 19, 2009, 02:35:56 AM
Mass surrender to water + diamond dust + aqua splash trains ftw.
Still, the golden ages of Elemental summoners doing trains ended with c3, back then we used to clean up places like LOA or Cruma with Unicorn Merrow and its hydroblast :x
u mean exploiting wall with pony in catacombs to make aa xD
Quote from: jygh on September 19, 2009, 12:04:50 PM
u mean exploiting wall with pony in catacombs to make aa xD
xDDDDD those were the times!
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 19, 2009, 04:32:13 PM
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Less QQ moar PEW PEW please !!!! Sifou Cryyyyy moaaaaaaaaaaaaar ! :D
lol
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Less QQ moar PEW PEW please !!!! Sifou Cryyyyy moaaaaaaaaaaaaar ! :D
Two things made me LOL so hard.
1. "The you are a loser if you cannot gather decent stuffs in 5 years" <- best response ever lol.
2. Y2J is so good that he heals as fast as L2W = gg, another pro CB bp :P
This post is funnier than when you owned nito, +1 mark
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Less QQ moar PEW PEW please !!!! Sifou Cryyyyy moaaaaaaaaaaaaar ! :D
i know that its not so good to laugh of friendly clan but damn its FTW ;D donated passive skills!!!!! can i get it too? ;D
i want passive , HP of valakas xD
or active , GM Haste lv. 4 ;D
Quote from: WindPhoenix on September 19, 2009, 04:33:48 PM
lol
Quote from: Zuluman on September 19, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
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1. "The you are a loser if you cannot gather decent stuffs in 5 years" <- best response ever lol.
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I have my doubts that he ( Sifou-whatever) played 5 years here, but regarding the "decent stuffs" ... isn't anything to laugh at; just take a look at WindPhoenix's gear, one of your clanmates and then make judgments on forums.
After that "3 box" shame reporting you're continuing to own yourself/mates on forums.
Any side here uses L2W ::)
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 19, 2009, 09:57:27 PM
I have my doubts that he ( Sifou-whatever) played 5 years here, but regarding the "decent stuffs" ... isn't anything to laugh at; just take a look at WindPhoenix's gear, one of your clanmates and then make judgments on forums.
After that "3 box" shame reporting you're continuing to own yourself/mates on forums.
lol, i dont have "decent" gear because i'm not active. even so, i dont complain about my gear, i can wtfpwn many nubs in DNET sets and icarus with just some wits, pre-learned tactics and fast thinking.
Quote from: BRexoo7 on September 19, 2009, 09:57:27 PM
I have my doubts that he ( Sifou-whatever) played 5 years here, but regarding the "decent stuffs" ... isn't anything to laugh at; just take a look at WindPhoenix's gear, one of your clanmates and then make judgments on forums.
After that "3 box" shame reporting you're continuing to own yourself/mates on forums.
If wind played active for 5 years I would not doubt for a second that he would have great gears. The thing is wind is not motivated by gears, he is happy pwning with what he has, and if he gets better gears that is just a bonus, wind don't cry about other peoples gears or enchanted skills ect ect. Sifou obviously does give a shit about gears judging by his post so really you cannot compare the two.
I don't know what you are on about "3 box", I don't see anything like that on the forum ::) ::) ::) ::)
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 20, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
look nothing in this server is like the ncsoft made it...mages are getting nerfed by gms not by ncsoft so why not nerf archers range? hmm
Archer's range is not correct either :P Correct me if I am wrong :)
a bit off topic: In Final Gracia is a nice feature for archers. The bigger range you have while hitting someone, the bigger damage you deal :)
Magician's Will - Increase magic power/magic speed/magic critical rate, and decrease magic consumption MP.
Enlightenment - User receives mystical enlightenment for 20 seconds, increasing M. Atk. by 10%, Heal by 40%, Casting Spd. by 50% and magic critical attack rate by 50%, and decreasing MP consumption by 90%
Enlightenment - User receives mystical enlightenment for 20 seconds, increasing M. Atk. by 40%, Casting Spd. by 50% and magic critical attack rate by 50%, and decreasing MP consumption by 90%.
Sigil Mastery - Increase MP recovery and magic power when one's wearing sigil
go go kill sps/ee in gracia final :P
Quote from: Diver on September 20, 2009, 11:28:51 AM
Magician's Will - Increase magic power/magic speed/magic critical rate, and decrease magic consumption MP.
Enlightenment - User receives mystical enlightenment for 20 seconds, increasing M. Atk. by 10%, Heal by 40%, Casting Spd. by 50% and magic critical attack rate by 50%, and decreasing MP consumption by 90%
Enlightenment - User receives mystical enlightenment for 20 seconds, increasing M. Atk. by 40%, Casting Spd. by 50% and magic critical attack rate by 50%, and decreasing MP consumption by 90%.
Sigil Mastery - Increase MP recovery and magic power when one's wearing sigil
go go kill sps/ee in gracia final :P
too bad gracia won't be there for next 5 years :)
Archers range is bugged since HB, mages crying archers have more range is bullshit, because at times archers need to run back to 600 range to hit someone, while mages always have 900 range because they aren't affected by elevation and area in which they are in, while archers are and that is what is bugged, Archery doesn't work properly either.
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 20, 2009, 11:57:18 AM
hhahaha only 5 years? :P btw ty for png advice is way better :*********
I told you ;)
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 20, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
i rerolled cause i have archer clan lol ... all my mates are playing archers so i wont stay almost alone with Elesse. Also this was the second time i rerolled, the 1st was at the begining of IL , specially cause the OP mcrit rate. playin sps/ee was boring, i remember and i still have sreens when i raped 1 pt ... or even more alone with 80% mcrit rate. if you want that time back, your a lowskilled prick who can only wank on mcrits. get some brain, use your char advantages,debuffs etc etc.....
we have one full mage pt at sieges, nub! ;D
Quote from: Ungolianth on September 20, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
soo after all the honey words you finally made it to CB...grats windy ;)
uhm, i'm in CB since like August or so :P
Quote from: cthon on September 14, 2009, 11:05:19 AM
omfg why do u play this game and u make topics when u don't know shit about it... and u can all gtfo till u learn how to buff..
GMs and Corruption !
Will Never END !
Quote from: XForCE on September 24, 2009, 08:15:36 PM
GMs and Corruption !
Will Never END !
Never started on NM ,at least as far as i m on NM ,the fact that some retards got big imagination and no clues at all does nt make it true.
Quote from: Deavon on September 24, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
Never started on NM ,at least as far as i m on NM ,the fact that some retards got big imagination and no clues at all does nt make it true.
shat the fak up noob !
drakes last shit was really stupid .
also ask about system hack and his brother !
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 20, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
i rerolled cause i have archer clan lol ... all my mates are playing archers so i wont stay almost alone with Elesse. Also this was the second time i rerolled, the 1st was at the begining of IL , specially cause the OP mcrit rate. playin sps/ee was boring, i remember and i still have sreens when i raped 1 pt ... or even more alone with 80% mcrit rate. if you want that time back, your a lowskilled prick who can only wank on mcrits. get some brain, use your char advantages,debuffs etc etc.....
u forgot to tell the truth about why u mr.amateur rerol agein to archer ?
i will refresh u brain.. u start play sps/ee u was sure to be hero with elesse but u FAILED .
i watch u fights in oly with u sps/ee was so funny . mr.pro.elessepimp..cant belive what u say u kiled 1 pt alone with u sps/ee?
i watch u in varka all time same: attack some1 from behaind pk him and bsoe.. mark u are so funny gay...TRUTH IS HARD ...
Quote from: NiToPaMi on September 26, 2009, 06:09:40 AM
u forgot to tell the truth about why u mr.amateur rerol agein to archer ?
i will refresh u brain.. u start play sps/ee u was sure to be hero with elesse but u FAILED .
i watch u fights in oly with u sps/ee was so funny . mr.pro.elessepimp..cant belive what u say u kiled 1 pt alone with u sps/ee?
i watch u in varka all time same: attack some1 from behaind pk him and bsoe.. mark u are so funny gay...TRUTH IS HARD ...
actually he almost never returned, but died instead. the last sentence otherwise, fits your playstyle, except that u return after celestial goes off. don't try to deny it, everyone can confirm that
Quote from: Deavon on September 24, 2009, 08:34:23 PM
Never started on NM ,at least as far as i m on NM ,the fact that some retards got big imagination and no clues at all does nt make it true.
Sure it did.... But that was before you came here :)
Nightmare, corruption free since C3^^
Quote from: mark_elesse on September 26, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
funny to see you flame me after you licked my ass " i like to play with pro players CLAN PLZ " ... want me to post the screen again mofo ? :)))
yeah lol i can't get why he even bothers...
Quote from: our4n0s on September 26, 2009, 02:10:33 PM
yeah lol i can't get why he even bothers...
because, after laughing our asses off on clanchat and on msn and every possible chat client, he got rejected -> butthurt